How can they expect us to know this if they don’t tell us? What is the sequence?
Facelift FL RS3 has new brakes... again?
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How can they expect us to know this if they don’t tell us? What is the sequence?
I didn’t see the Audi spec sheet but they described it as .... so many miles @ x mph then brake with a certain amount of pressure then drive without braking for x miles then brake again building up speed & brake pressure each time etc ... some convuluted procedure which takes them approx 3 hours & then they sign it off as having been bedded in to Audi’s recommendations.
Have they done this after they replaced your brakes? Driven the car for 3 hours, or am I mistaken?!
So we aren’t expected to do this from new?
Interestingly I’ve noticed on a factory production video, the new RS3 brakes come with the silencers on the back of the callipers....
Watch the marriage at 9:35, most of the clips are of a FL RS3.. you can tell by the engine block and the exhaust. As well as the grey car that drives off has Quattro on the dash and red highlighted seatbelts. But halfway through, there is a different chassis with a standard engine block and silver callipers. I noticed the black silencers on the rear of the red callipers.
Watch the marriage at 9:35, most of the clips are of a FL RS3.. you can tell by the engine block and the exhaust. As well as the grey car that drives off has Quattro on the dash and red highlighted seatbelts. But halfway through, there is a different chassis with a standard engine block and silver callipers. I noticed the black silencers on the rear of the red callipers.
I’d be seeking compensation for mileage covered!! What a lovely days work for that technician!!
Anyone else read the Clarkson "review" on the RS3 saloon in the Times?
Big mention of the squeeling brakes issue and how it has been like that on the last 3 RS products he has driven.
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Big mention of the squeeling brakes issue and how it has been like that on the last 3 RS products he has driven.
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Jesus - so there is a suggestion that squealing brakes are on multiple RS cars ?
or does he mean the original RS3 (8p) the pre FL 8v and now FL 8v ?
Unclear from the article, but it has been a well known issue on RS3s but he just says ".... this is the third Audi RS on the trot that's come to me with the same problem"
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teslaboy
Mythos black RS3 8v FL
I believe local stop/start driving removes the pad transfer layer and that is when the squealing starts, hard use and getting the pad/disc up to temp helps a lot.
The long and short of it is that Audi have used the "wrong" pad compound for most RS3 drivers and a softer compound like the EBC Red would sort the issue.
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...properly installed with some anti-squeel paste on the back plate edges where they slide in the calipers.
I do believe that the fault lies with Brembo - I think the caliper they use is too sloppy where the pads sit that in turn causes the vibration that is brake squeel. I do not know why they do not look at some of the other suppliers such as AP and TRW who offer brake components every bit as good as Brembo.
The calipers are Brembo and the pads are made by Pagid.
I never use the paste as my brakes get really hot and I don't want the compound melted all over my brakes.
There are some decent high temp anti squeal compounds like Silverhook SGPG70 which is OK if you must "lube up".
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The Clarkson article - the squealing brakes issue really is disgusting - what the hell are Audi playing at not sorting it ? ....
https://www.thetimes...388b740b4c1d0a8
"And then there are the brakes, which screeched every time I went near the pedal. You may say this is a one-off and that the car cannot be dismissed because of a scratched pad or an errant pedal. True enough, but this is the third Audi RS on the trot that’s come to me with the same problem"
https://www.thetimes...388b740b4c1d0a8
"And then there are the brakes, which screeched every time I went near the pedal. You may say this is a one-off and that the car cannot be dismissed because of a scratched pad or an errant pedal. True enough, but this is the third Audi RS on the trot that’s come to me with the same problem"
2015/16 car has part number ending in F
2017/18 has same numbers but ending in K / N / M
teslaboy
Mythos black RS3 8v FL
Welcome to Club Squeal !
Disgusting that Audi have not sorted this for the face lift RS3.
Mine started sqealing again today - mainly as I did not have time to pressure wash the discs at the weekend.
Regular as clockwork - leave it a week and the pad residue build up starts squealing.
Very annoying and embarrassing.
teslaboy
Mythos black RS3 8v FL
Dam it !!
I've got no squeal yet (1000 miles in) but by the sounds of it only a matter of time......
I think a lot of it depends on your driving style & trips you do.
I do a lot of short low speed trips which are probably the worse for building up pad debris.
If you do more higher speed / harder braking trips which clean up the discs a little, I think this keeps the squeal at bay a bit longer.
teslaboy
Mythos black RS3 8v FL
Be worth you pressure washing your discs some time too - to see if there is much $hi7 comes off.
You have to use a pressure washer though as normal hose pipe is now powerful enough to remove it.
My Regime is:
Pressure wash / wheel half rotation / pressure wash & repeat once.
Also pressure wash the calipers.
Gotta ensure the discs are stone cold though.
Amazing to see all the crap that comes off.
You can usually tell if you start getting a slimy / dirty look on your discs that they are ready for a clean up.
teslaboy
Mythos black RS3 8v FL
FL RS3 SB - Over 2000 miles and the brakes don’t squeal and never have.
I do mostly short runs and the odd long run (over 150 mile).
Google maps has now stopped working - a bit random and I have the exhaust start-up ticking but otherwise ok.
I do mostly short runs and the odd long run (over 150 mile).
Google maps has now stopped working - a bit random and I have the exhaust start-up ticking but otherwise ok.
Only managed to do 150 miles in the car so far (FL Saloon) and over the last couple of days I’ve noticed an intermittent slow speed squeal. Only happens around 3-4mph down to stop and only on light brake pressure. Happens intermittently too, 1 out of every 5 stops or so.
I’m not one of these people that will go back to the dealer and complain unless there genuinely is a problem. It’s a little strange but at the moment it’s not enough for me to go back to the dealer and complain as I can’t be ar*ed with my time wasted or the dealer time investigating the issue. If it becomes more common and is always like it on every slow speed stop then fair enough id go back but happy to put up with it at the minute as it may just need time to bed in.
I’m not one of these people that will go back to the dealer and complain unless there genuinely is a problem. It’s a little strange but at the moment it’s not enough for me to go back to the dealer and complain as I can’t be ar*ed with my time wasted or the dealer time investigating the issue. If it becomes more common and is always like it on every slow speed stop then fair enough id go back but happy to put up with it at the minute as it may just need time to bed in.
My van brake's have just started squeeling .. perhaps someone is trying to get me ready for when my car arrives
phantom_s3
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So I have around 700 miles on mine and the brakes have been squealing pretty much form the start, same symptoms last 2-3 miles an hour mainly noticeable is start/stop traffic. Doesn't do it straight away seems to take 3-4 miles into a journey then pretty constant, it has been getting slightly better. Anyway the dealer had it today and inspected the brakes. They told me that the brakes were glazed and need some hard braking once they had done that they were fine, they have no service bulletins about RS3 brakes (!!!) and if it happens again I just need to do some hard braking and that this is a symptom of performance brakes. I mentioned that I would be back if this continued (which I am sure it will) and on the drive home only squeaked once very slightly. I'm going to run it for a while see if things improve and do a bit of hard braking now and again. Fundamentally though it's not acceptable for brakes to squeal in this day and age I have had numerous "performance cars" from Audi, VW and BMW and never had this problem, Audi surely can't design something that needs you to hard brake to resolve for a short period of time. The car is so great though that I can forgive the odd squeal.....
