Good watch. Really a big fan of that Megane, drives so well.
Surprising that the RS3 forum doesn't have a thread on it..............
Although the cut and paste response would be we never drive it on the track and that it makes the best noise.
...........which to be fair is no different to you cutting and pasting your usual brand snobbery accusation but the simple fact is as fun as those videos are the vast majority simply don't give a toss what does what on a track.
6 months in and I've not been on a track yetGood watch. Really a big fan of that Megane, drives so well.
Surprising that the RS3 forum doesn't have a thread on it..............
Although the cut and paste response would be we never drive it on the track and that it makes the best noise.
Good point, well made, although if you watch the video it's not just on track.
Since you didn't watch, the RS3 is out of the running first, with it not handling the wet particularly well, having lifeless steering and a heavy front end, which leads to understeer.
Surprising for an "AWD" car.
This is a much better place with reasoned discussion and debate, rather than gibberish and GIF's.
Any preference, type of paint that is.....lolNow I'm fairly sure you cut and pasted that assessment from a V8 quote! lol
...............can't promise to cut all the gibberish but I'm trying to keep the gifs reserved for special occasions ...............
(and no I didn't watch the video...................rather watch paint dry) lol
Any preference, type of paint that is.....lol
Surprising that the RS3 forum doesn't have a thread on it..............
Wow, the above seems a bit harsh.
I was called a "Troll" the other day by someone, although I'm not bubbling about it.
Good video. The RS3 (and Audi) understeer issues come back to haunt it again!!!
They kept banging on about how the Megane is only 24 grand, but it's over 33 in the test car configuration...
Audi have obviously recognised (some of) the faults and partially addressed it by reducing the weight of the TTRS 2.5, which will appear in the facelift RS3 when it comes out.
This will help the oversteer (caused partially by it being front end heavy).
It's surprising that they got rid of it so quickly, especially in the wet, where the Quattro should give it more advantages than many of the rest.
Haldex limitations mean it needs very good damping to get the most out of it.
Front diff in the A45 obviously helps it in this test. Focus RS doesn't use Haldex and was always going to win, but looks terrible. Megane punches well above its weight by having a perfect chassis, exceptional damping and the front diff, just lacking in power.
It's a good time to be in the market for a hot hatch. Lots of good options out there.
Let's hope the new RS3 puts the AMG to shame when it comes out later in the year. Audi will want that no.1 crown back!!
It doesn't understeer on the road at sane speeds, fact as I have one. As Craig says why would I give a **** if it understeers on a trackGood video. The RS3 (and Audi) understeer issues come back to haunt it again!!!
Just watched it.
Surprising about the RS3 being the first one binned, however, totally agree about the "relatively" slow gearbox.
The 7 speed dsg isnt anywhere near as quick as the 8 speed I had in the bmw m135i.
Still, as I have always said, I drive my car on real roads and at fairly normal speeds. For my style of driving, the S3 and RS3 are absolutely perfect cars.
The same ZF box that is so good BMW put it in all their M cars?Just watched it.
Surprising about the RS3 being the first one binned, however, totally agree about the "relatively" slow gearbox.
The 7 speed dsg isnt anywhere near as quick as the 8 speed I had in the bmw m135i.
Still, as I have always said, I drive my car on real roads and at fairly normal speeds. For my style of driving, the S3 and RS3 are absolutely perfect cars.
Either way Audi will fix any understeer on the facelift and more power
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I don't understand why anyone on an Audi forum would slate an extremely capable, great look and good value hatch. I wouldn't put the RS3 into the hot hatch category. Hot hatches to me are 208 GTi, Fiesta ST, Corsa VXR etc. The RS3 is a more grown up car.
I'd happily take one in a heart beat. That film was so obvious from the start. Audi is expensive so binned. Let's all go with the RS. It's like listening to a script. Every reporter loves it! Why? I don't know. Hate fords. Had two hated both!
@Dazzeroo you've made a huge mistake. Getting the wife an S3 SB instead of a A3 S-line could have given you that extra bucks you required to get into your own RS3.I dont pretend to be a journalist or a car reviewing expert BUT my opinion is that this hot hatch review/test was conducted back to front in terms of then binning 7 out of 10 motors.
Hot hatches are road cars which should you choose to may be used on the track or am I wrong? These cars were evaluated on the basis of their performance on track which seems illogical given they are road cars?
Also, for the RS3 to be ruled out first was a big surprise to me. The RS3 engine is an absolute masterclass in automotive engineering and the RS3 looks amazing albeit is a subjective opinion of course .
Having owned several Focus ST's, S3's and more recently an M135i, I always come back to Audi as for 9.5/10, their performance cars offer all that I want and need in a daily driver. If I could afford an RS3 I'd be in one right now and I'm really looking forward to my wifes S3 sportback arriving later this month.
Apologies for the rant, just felt the need
Audi have obviously recognised (some of) the faults and partially addressed it by reducing the weight of the TTRS 2.5, which will appear in the facelift RS3 when it comes out.
This will help the oversteer (caused partially by it being front end heavy).
It's surprising that they got rid of it so quickly, especially in the wet, where the Quattro should give it more advantages than many of the rest.
Haldex limitations mean it needs very good damping to get the most out of it.
Front diff in the A45 obviously helps it in this test. Focus RS doesn't use Haldex and was always going to win, but looks terrible. Megane punches well above its weight by having a perfect chassis, exceptional damping and the front diff, just lacking in power.
It's a good time to be in the market for a hot hatch. Lots of good options out there.
The same ZF box that is so good BMW put it in all their M cars?
You must have been driving a broken RS3 to think that the ZF box is faster on up changes.
Even I am going to stick up for the RS3 on that one lol