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Simonb1975
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Yeah I know, wasn't referring to the 135. Just the fact that i'd fancy an M5 if it wasn't Rwd since the M's will eventually be X drive optioned
Before making a final decision, give the S3 s-tronic a drive. You've not really compared like with like.
The S-Tronic feels very different to the ZF8. I drive a 435i usually for 2 days during the week and the S-Tronic feels much sportier and more engaging with the shifts. You also have TCU tunes available for the S3 which aren't available for the M135i which further improves the gearbox. I find that on take off the ZF8 is more responsive but when driving the S-Tronic is quicker to downshift and put power down.Nothing much between the 2 performance wise with S-Tronic, have driven both.
He forgot to mention it's so damn ugly from a couple of angles too lol
Now that, is a sound opinionHe forgot to mention it's so damn ugly from a couple of angles too lol
BetterHe forgot to mention it's so damn ugly from ALL angles too lol
He forgot to mention it's so damn ugly from a couple of angles too lol
The only good looking car BMW build is the 4 series each to their own l couldn't buy as unattractive as the 1/2 series yeah big 3.0 litre engine/noise but ye have got to admit they are far from being a looker inside aswell looks matter a lotWell I'll probably be swapping mine for either an M135i or M235i sometime next year - personally I like them. After 18 months of ownership and 12k miles, I'm losing the love for the S3.
6 series grand coupe is a very handsome car to my eye.The only good looking car BMW build is the 4 series each to their own l couldn't buy as unattractive as the 1/2 series yeah big 3.0 litre engine/noise but ye have got to admit they are far from being a looker inside aswell looks matter a lot
To answer the OPs question at 345bhp, 324lbft and a base price of £28,940 It has to be the Focus.
Options look reasonably priced too with the sunroof at £575 I paid the best part of £1,000 for mine. Looking at the 'old shape' it has pretty good residuals too so I'd imagine the new shape will too.
One thing l noticed between the audi S3 and the Focus l had,was the Ford was far,far more planted a very stable car at any speed the audi aint especially at speed,Audi need to address this handling defect ASAP
The thing with the Focus RS, Rob is the lack of nice colours there's only 4 in total l think, plus the alloy wheel choice is only 2 both not very nice at all,not a fan of the blue theme running through the interior also
The audi is a bit more advanced when it comes to exterior lights these are far better, xenons led tail lights etc
As for the interior quality it's up there very nice indeed.
One thing l noticed between the audi S3 and the Focus l had,was the Ford was far,far more planted a very stable car at any speed the audi aint especially at speed,Audi need to address this handling defect ASAP
Ps the Fords sunroof is gash lol tiny and doesn't enhance the cars exterior aesthetics at all
It would have been interesting if Mercedes were also
mentioned in this thread.
Awe naw it's even uglier than the BMW lol and far too expensive
I am 52 year's young lol by the time l want to change cars hitting 54,focus RS no,my Don Johnson days are over no matter how good it is over the competition BMW hell will freeze over sooner than jassy buying one, so l thought today, actually,l did about the timing of me changing car's should be good for the new A3/S3 coming out,then again l saw a new Audi TT tonight S-Line very very nice
Yip frozen white, 2 black metallics,and the chavvy launch colour powder blueHi J I know you like your pano roof mate ;o)
Does it come in white ?
If I was buying now I'd have a very hard decision if I could pick one of these up forgiving the typical Ford centre console layout and cheapish looking plastics for 345bhp, dynamic torque vectoring and up to 70% RWD then maybe £7k back in my pocket I'd be having sleepless nights - would have to put a paper bag over that roof spoiler mind !
Sat in my bosses Focus ST yesterday the seats were so narrow and supportive it felt like sitting in my lads booster seat !!!!
Yip frozen white, 2 black metallics,and the chavvy launch colour powder blue
Yip them seats are amazing would love them the audi way
Eh.....your boss has focus and you have a S3.?.. Bit topsy-turvy that mate lol
Hi mate the saloon is a fine looking car very photogenic but in the metal not as nice especially in light coloursWhen I was deciding on my new car, it was between BMW and Audi.
I liked the looks of the Audi A3 Saloon better.
Hi mate the saloon is a fine looking car very photogenic but in the metal not as nice especially in light colours
But ye never know l may eventually get a sedan????? Na thought about it,l would look like a chauffeur lol forget it hatch or coupe for jassy
After driving one for awhile you don't notice them at all,matter a fact they stopped working in my car l didn't even notice lolHah lol I'm a jobber mate same as you no sick or holiday pay.
Seats were good not a creased bolster in sight !!! Not a fan of the 3 gauges to the left of the instrument binnacle.
You could chauffeur Simon L around!
After awhile driving one for awhile you don't notice them at all,matter a fact they stopped working in my car l didn't even notice lol
Yeah yer wee boy is a chip of the old block by the sound's of it lolOh no ! What are they guessing one is boost ?
Like you mate tied in to current motor for couple of years else I'll be homeless and single in double quick time hence started to tweak a few bits.
My lad who's 4 wants a blue convertible then a black convertible when it's dirty. His mom told him you don't change cars when it's dirty his reply was that daddy does !! I'm not that bad lol !! 2nd year of facelift could be a good option they'd have sorted out the issues by then and may be offering discounts.
What? Where? When? ................................ jeez, there's too much to catch up on here!! lol
So what have we established now? Beemers are still ugly, Focus, great value but no colour choices and still a bit chavvy (and ugly for me)........................so pretty much where we started!!
Funnily enough saw a brand new TT S-line myself parked in town earlier today. Wasn't bowled over to be honest, the slight make-over is a bit too sharp and angular, seems to have lost some of the subtle, sexy curves!!
I still think the S3 and S5 are hands down the best of the best in the looks department
Getting close to a deal with a local dealer! Will keep you posted!
Just shows how subjective looks are as slot of people are describing the a3 as dull looking. I quite like the looks but see where they're coming from. A5 look superb in the right spec but the 4 series pushes it close. The 6 is one of the best looking out there imo
Yeah, for sure mate looks are definitely subjective, only my opinion and have no intention telling others what to buy!
Not keen on the 4 series tbh, looks like a 3 after eating too many big macs!! (don't tell BH I said that though ..........although if he's really honest I reckon he'd agree lol) 6 series and up.......just too big for me
Somehow, in some way, this thread will end up with a Golf R being chosen. There was never a car built like it in the history of the world and its the no brainier choice. You really would be a fool not to buy one. Everyone else has!!