Had it up for the last 2 months tho was a really good example but so many messers was annoying, they seem to be dropping in price at the moment people selling them so cheap had so many silly offers. Its not the best car i have ever owned for outright fun but the grip was immense even in the rain. Joining the dark side now and picking up a bmw 330d 2006 msport on friday and booked a few holidays Thanks for all the help and advice on here peeps