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Wobble bolts

jay1 Dec 6, 2014

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  1. jay1

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    Hi I'm looking at buying a set of 18" team dynamics pro race 1.2 only thing is they are 5x98 and my s3 is 5x100 I have read wobble bolts can go 2mm up or down so I'm guesing they will fit has anyone fitted 5x98 wheels before or used wobble bolts as I'm sure I've read bad things about them in the past thanks in advance
     
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  3. Tooks

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    Wobble bolts should work on wheels with only +/- 2mm PCD difference, as you say.

    More important is the centre bore size, which needs to be 57.1 or larger with a spigot adaptor. Personally, as the centre bore will be the only thing centering the wheel, I'd look for that to be correct.

    What's the offset on the wheels?

    Team Dynamics make wheels for all sorts of applications, so might be better to find some that fit?
     
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    Forgot to say, check the M14 bolts your S3 requires will go through the holes in the wheels you're eyeing up, especially if they're meant for M12 bolts etc.
     
  5. 16Klappe

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    Wobble bolts.

    What the **** is the world coming to.
     
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  6. jojo

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    This, I would not recommend using wobble bolts on a car that's running 200bhp+, especially when you can 'Buy' the wheel in question in the correct stud pattern!
     
  7. VAG-Slag

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    So long as the centre bore is correct or (if not) you are using the correct spigot rings to centralise the wheel properly there is absolutely no danger risk or problem using wobble bolts...

    Obviously the purists like Jarrod and JoJo are going to object, and yes, using a wheel with the correct PCD in the first place would be better...... But ulitmately, wobble bolts used properly are fine at any horse power
     
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  8. 16Klappe

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    They're ******* **** and you should be ashamed of yourself for even suggesting them.
     
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  9. VAG-Slag

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    Ok, and what do you base this rather strong opinion on? . .

    They're just as strong as normal bolts and the wheel is centralised by other means... What exactly is the problem with them?
     
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  10. 16Klappe

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    "Wobble bolts"

    That is all.
     
  11. VAG-Slag

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    Sorry mate, but you're all fart and no sh*t... A lot of hot air but absolutely no substance to what you're saying. No theory, no examples of wobble bolts causing catastrophic failure etc etc, NOTHING. . . . You have nothing of any value or substance to add to this discussion.
     
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  13. jay1

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    What he said ^^^^
     
  14. 16Klappe

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    Why would I waste my time trying to argue about safety with people who clearly have no regard for safety.

    Somebody with experience like yourself should know better.
     
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  15. 16Klappe

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    Aren't you the muppet who asked the question in the first place? Saying you've read bad things about them in the past and asking if they are safe, if you agree so strongly with Lewis's comments then why make the thread in the first place?

    If you can honestly trust something like this then I have no time for you, at all. How could you possibly drive around without constantly wanting to torque your wheels and check that they were seated correctly.

    No thanks.

    Wobble bolts are the clear and defining line between a competent mechanic, and a bodger.

    Sorry that will cause offense Lewis, but I would never trust anything in a car knowingly fitted with wobble bolts. Regardless of the theory behind them, they are a product designed to bodge something which doesn't fit so that it does fit in the safest possible way. And that's still a bodge.
     
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  16. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    :sign wow:

    Overly strong opinion is overly strong today....
     
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  17. VAG-Slag

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    You're still failing to tell me exactly how wobble bolts compromise safety? . . The shape still seats perfectly and so long as they're torqued up properly, what is the problem?

    Admittedly, yes, it is a bit of a "bodge" so to speak. And, as I said earlier, wheels with the correct PCD would obviously be better... But if it works (which they do) it f*cking works!
     
  18. 16Klappe

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    Oh yeah, they work. Not questioning their ability to hold wheels to a hub face at all. I know the loads they are and aren't under, but I don't trust them.

    How could you ever drive around confident that they weren't about to work loose? I couldn't ever do it. You would surely need to have total disregard for the wellbeing of your car to drive around on "wobble bolts" and be care free.

    Regardless of TUV approval or the logic behind them.
     
  19. jojo

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    I never said they were dangerous, I was merely pointing out that those wheels are available in the correct stud pattern, why would you go with the wobble bolt option?
     
  20. jay1

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    I did start the thread I was agreeing with the fact you had such a strong opinion on them and when asked why you had nothing to say hence why I started the thread to find out and abusive replys are not helpful thought this was a Fourm for help not negative people or muppets like your self thanks to everyone else who has commented
     
  21. jay1

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    A set has come up cheap so thought it would be an option did not realize some people felt so strongly about it
     
  22. VAG-Slag

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    The only bad press out there about wobble bolts is from man in shed type people (like Jarrod) with no actual experience in the subject that don't like the sound of "wobble bolts" because it doesn't sound like proper engineering...

    If you actually think about it using logic (and maybe even some mathematical sums if you must) then you'll find they make sense and above all WORK. . . .

    Luckily for you though Jarrod I've just designed and engineered something new... They're called PCD proportioning bolts and are engineered to the the highest standard. I think you'll like them... Twice the price of wobble bolt mind
     
  23. VAG-Slag

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    Why the hell would they work loose!?!?!?

    You're starting to sound like a paranoid man in shed now J-rod..........
     
  24. jojo

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    It's just a personal opinion, but for someone like myself, who basically drives the nuts out of the car when the opportunity arises, like out on track, using wobble bolts is just not an option for me.
     
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    Man in a shed?! I've got more mechanical qualifications than you, ya chump! I just sacked it off because it doesn't pay.
     
  26. VAG-Slag

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    I considered doing this my self a while back when I was looking for some track wheels...

    Scene tax still apply to second hand stuff... Everyone's after 5x100 wheels, supply and demand and all that
     
  27. VAG-Slag

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    ha ha! . . Ok, perhaps "man in shed" was a bit of a low blow. But you get what I'm saying! lol

    And you're right, doesn't pay at all... Which is why I'm sacking it off as well!
     
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  28. 16Klappe

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    Come and have that race against my S3 tomorrow and we'll see who's better at putting a car together and drink beer to celebrate my victory :jester:
     
  29. david7m

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    If you type 'wobble boot' into eBay, they are listed exactly as you say.
    Initially when I read it I thought they were designed for something else, but they are for wheels.
    How about security?
    Dave
     
  30. jay1

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    Calm down people I was only asking as I always good really good advice when I post on here normally
    The difference in price of the 5x98 is massive to the 5x100 maybe I will just hang on and get 5x100 as I'm not in a rush at the mo just thought I could save a few quid is all but does seem like more hassle than it's worth
     
  31. 16Klappe

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    They're not going to fall off, they'll work fine.

    It's just if you can drive around without worrying about them.
     
  32. VAG-Slag

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    Ha ha! . . Typical Jarrod, all the hooo-har just for it to conclude like this! lol
     
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  34. jay1

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    Glad I'm not the only one thinking that lol so they will work and they won't fall off so what's the problem then??
     
  35. jojo

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    In normal applications, they won't fall off, but if Jardo stuck a set of rims on his cars with wobble bolts, they will just drop off as soon as he moves! :D
     
  36. VAG-Slag

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    Which is why I invented PCD proportioning bolts, much safer! :icon thumright:
     
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  37. 16Klappe

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    Are you unable to read?

     
  38. 16Klappe

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    If you were as smart as you think you are then you'd have called them 'wobbly bolts' because you'd have known I'd have a wobbly about them :laugh:
     
  39. sportquattro

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    There's an old saying, "if a jobs worth doing is worth doing well" and wobble bolts may well do the job, but to my mind I'd be having kittens constantly wondering if they were going to come loose or not, I'm sure whoever designed them made sure they don't, but its that uncertainty that would make them an absolute no-no for me, and just sounds a bodge too far and I want to enjoy my S3 not be worrying about a workaround bolt system failing.

    Just my view though and if its your car and your happy with them then that's your choice.

    Nige
     
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  40. jay1

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    Are you for real??? You come on here rant like an idiot then say they will work and they won't fall off
    And then say if you can drive round without worrying about them well if your so knowledgable about it why would I need to worry about them???
    As u said they will work and won't fall off contradicting yourself??
     
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    ???
     
  42. jay1

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    Are you unable to read?
     
  43. 16Klappe

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    No, I was just checking to see that if I typed three question marks instead of one maybe I would turn into an imbecile.

    It didn't work.
     
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