Which one to go for?

[I'mRonBurgundy?]

So what's the 2.0t pack then?

 

[sat1983]

200

 

[PeterS]

Well, it's a 1.9 TDI SE, for £16,450 and it's done like 5,000 miles. On DriveTheDeal, a 1.9SE new, is £18739...

That's the price before discount!! If you press the 'get your discounted price' button it'll come back with a price of £16,748 (the same as the Sport) - I've just tried it. You might have to register though; just a name, address and email address IIRC

OK, so by the time you had a few extras it'll be nearer £17,500 brand new. But I'd want the 1 year old one to be £14,500 at the very most before I'd take it over a new one.

Peter

 

[New Age Driver]

OK, so by the time you had a few extras it'll be nearer £17,500 brand new. But I'd want the 1 year old one to be £14,500 at the very most before I'd take it over a new one.

£14,500..with or without the part-exchange?

 

[PeterS]

Without the part exchange, but that's just me. For me a second hand car, even if just a year old, would have to be significantly cheaper than a new one for me to consider it.

If a no options new one can be had for £16,748 there's no way I'd pay £16,500, or even £15,000 assuming you get around 10% off, for a car that is now 2 plates (57 and 07) out of date even if it has only covered 5k miles and has a few more options..

Peter

 

[New Age Driver]

Would you say this is a scam? I mean, £16,723 for a 1.4T FSI? Isit, because it amounts to more with the APR? I'm guessing you couldn't haggle them down either.

http://www.buyacar.co.uk/detailyq19273.jhtml?process=true&vehicle=19273&model=121&channel=&useIndex=false&pageNum=1&orderBy=derivativeString&manufacturer=164&idx=6

Also, it annoys me when I find a car, but it's a 2hr 30minute drive from where I live.

 

[mister.c.]

Not sure why you think it is a scam from your post.

If it is because they offer a discount, it is because you can get significant discounts on the A3. As has been said.

See the following (in the first thread a dealer says 10% is achievable)

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=45340

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=50309&highlight=discounts

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=39129&highlight=discounts

 

[New Age Driver]

Not sure why you think it is a scam from your post.

If it is because they offer a discount, it is because you can get significant discounts on the A3. As has been said.

See the following (in the first thread a dealer says 10% is achievable)

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=45340

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=50309&highlight=discounts

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showthread.php?t=39129&highlight=discounts

Ok. Read through the threads. I always thought they sounded dodgy. Much like those advertisements you get for 'you've won a free TV'. If you pay by finance, though, don't these sites screw you over with the APR? So, by the time you pay the car, you actually pay more because of interest?

 

[mister.c.]

Any closer to knowing exactly what you want sir?

 

[newbiecrg]

In his situation, especially insurance and running cost I would go for the 1.9 TDI... but have said that before.

Pedro

 

[New Age Driver]

Any closer to knowing exactly what you want sir?

Well, I am waiting till the Summer. I don't fancy the PCP scheme. I don't really want to get into debt. So, I'm saving up as of now. I am, more than likely, going to go for the 1.4T FSI, heard some really good things about it. I am annoyed, that I can't have the car now..I really want it and I can't stand my car at the moment. I also feel as though this would be the best time to get a second hand 07 car as the 08 plate has just come out, but as someone pointed out to me, there will always be good deals, cars are not rare there are plenty of them.

 

[New Age Driver]

It's my understanding that 1.4, and 1.6 for that matter, are aimed at a younger demograph. I mean not many 30 year olds are gonna go for A 1.4. Why then, have they made it so pricey? Surely it should cater for younger people and take that into account when deciding the price listing.
I was looking yesterday at other hatchbacks, and although they don't compare, they are still lower in price - Ford Fiesta Zitec, Fiat Grande Punto..they are aimed at a younger demograph..shouldn't the 1.4 be the same?

 

[L60N]

Some older people want a small engined car. Teachers for example. LoL

 

[rodenal]

The golf 1.4 T is cheaper - £15k ish i think

 

[mister.c.]

It's my understanding that 1.4, and 1.6 for that matter, are aimed at a younger demograph. I mean not many 30 year olds are gonna go for A 1.4. Why then, have they made it so pricey? Surely it should cater for younger people and take that into account when deciding the price listing.
I was looking yesterday at other hatchbacks, and although they don't compare, they are still lower in price - Ford Fiesta Zitec, Fiat Grande Punto..they are aimed at a younger demograph..shouldn't the 1.4 be the same?

I would imagine that Audi pricing structure reflects what they can sell their product at, within the particular market place they are operating in. Simply if it is pricey it is because people will pay that price. Some people will be luckier / more savvy in being able to get discounts.

I'm guessing you're frustrated with the cost of an Audi A3 (1.4turbo or 1.6). But I'm not sure of the logic of what you have said.

Can't agree that smaller engines are aimed at a younger demographic at all - it might be one element of the market but not that significant. You say 'surely it should cater for younger people' - they do - younger people with the appropriate funds that they can sell the car for in the marketplace!

Then you refer to other non comparable products; products that will (generally) depreciate more than the A3 and so the relative cost of owning an A3 against these non comparable products is not excessively more.

The VAG group does cater for people (younger and older) who doesn't want to spend as much initial money on a car - there is Skoda, SEAT & VW.

Relatively speaking, given the market place the A3 is in, with the residuals, the discounts you can get if you are lucky & savvy enough that the 1.4T is not overly pricey. I'm sure there are many, perhaps yourself, who would disagree but there's very little you can do about it, apart from shop elsewhere.

If you have the money to spend on a new car as you've mentioned in the thread & clearly the costs of getting a A3 frustrate, then I'd recommend an alternative of a Seat Leon.

 

[boggysv]

wa wa wa...audis are expensive...who could have thought about it!!!

If you want it, just pay and get it.

You want the A3, not the <insert econohatchback here>, but dont want to pay A3 money? Too bad.

If audi priced the 1.4t a3 cheaper, then it would end up "just as common as the golf", and that would contradict your first post in this thread wouldnt it?

 

[New Age Driver]

Sorry if I annoyed some people..

I was merely speculating, I wasn't whining about the price being so high. This is a forum, where we are allowed to speak our minds, is it not? I just wanted to get peoples views on whether or not the 1.4T FSI was aimed at a younger demographic? I don't know, I assumed it was, but was just asking you more experienced Audi people.

 

[newbiecrg]

Audi is just a car like any other... I don't know why some "Audi" drivers they have something special... Really... for me it is a car, OK, nice car but nothing more...

I guess some of this "I have a car not so many people can afford" ego is just silly... each one buys what can and want... There so much better engineered cars than Audis... If someone wants one just get it...

Concerning the "cheaper" Audis... I agree that they are probably more seen in younger people that just started their lifes and dont have or don't want to spend more than their budget... Fair, and a point I agree with New Age Driver... You have, off course, the other side of the spectrum, older people, professionals that want an A3 but don't really care about performance or "race specs" they go, and quite sensibly, for smaller engines.... Anything wrong with that?

I got an S3 but I don't live on that dream world where owning an Audi (or any other premium brand) fills my ego and makes me feel superior.... And that shows on the driving... hence the BMW thingy (which applies to Audi, Merc, etc, etc) "owner of the road!!"

I might be in a rush in a motorway but I respect the Vauhxall Corsa that is overtaking another vehicle, I give him time and distance and them when he moves away I carry on... no need to flash main beam 2 miles away or have the right indicator light always on... I find it amusing when a 320D (or any other brand, in Portugal the BM 320D is the motorway guru!!), miles awaya flashes some lights at me or glues to my ****!! I don't race them.. I just get out of the way and let them go... just smile to my self and carry on with my life... (except when its uphill.. there I just vanish... sometime...lolol)

Peace my friends... and remember a car is a car... for me is not about the car is about the drive.....

Respect the other and you shall be respected...

Pedro

P.S.: a bit off topic but I was inspired...

 

[boggysv]

I'm not ****** off or being proud that I drive an audi. Just feel that questioning audi's pricing strategy is not going to change anything. So if the thread starter (or anyone) really wants the car, he can either pay said amount, or choose something else.

Or maybe it's just the discussion with the super corporate speak here reminding me of marketing/business class...and that ticks my box.

 

[newbiecrg]

Also... something that is obvious... the prices are set according to desirability! The more desire exists either because it is a new model otechnology the more can be and will be charged... like everything in Life. Some people go shopping on Waitrose and are fine about the prices other shop at Lidls... in the end the most important thing, and this is a personal matter, is what you consider a good or fair value for money....

For instance some want something with 4 wheels and an engine and cannot justify £15k+ for an A3 when they can get a Megane or whatever a lot cheaper...

Others think that £15k+ for an A3 is not bad as they will be driving something no so much common and a bit more upmarket... A car like so many things in life is a personal thing and you need to be happy with what you choose... same applies to wife (always read the small print...lololol)

Discussing company prices is OK but won't change a single thing... corporation are in business for a profit not charity and if they can charge an extra pence they will... and sleep at night... it is just the way it is.

You are young and would like an A3... nothing wrong with that. But I am afraid it will cost you money... you just have to think if it is worth for you to spend that money on a car... that's all... your call mate.

We are trying to give advice, and that comes free, but in the end the car will cost you money!

Best of luck and let us know how you are getting on!
Pedro

 

[GlasgowRangers]

Some older people want a small engined car. Teachers for example. LoL

I am not old. I'm 33 years young.

 

[Nelson15]

Fella,

When I started driving at 17 I bought a Polo, then at 18, bought a Mk1 Golf GTi for about £2000. Fantastic car, spent a fortune keeping it on the road though. Sold it when I was 19 and bought a 1999 Golf GTTDI. 110hp, good spec for about £5000. Loved that car, gutsy, refined, cheap to run and insure, good image, excellent.

Now I'm 21, I sold the golf at 130000miles, and bought a 2003 Audi A4 TDi. Good car, but I still miss the golf for some reason, just felt right for my age. In all honesty, I wouldn't touch petrol with a bargepole any more. Yes some of them may be quicker 0-60, but the turbo diesels are far superior at overtaking speeds and much cheaper to fuel and insure.

If I was you, I would look at diesel golfs. A late Mk4 model TDI top spec (150hp) would come in well under budget and would be a fantastic buy. You'd also be able to zoom past all your mates and not fill up as much as them. A3's are along the same vain, but much more expensive.