Wheel spining my S3

ron burgandy

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I can't understand why my s3 would wheel spin from the front wheels. Esp in the wet surly the whole idea of a Quattro is so the wheels don't spin.
I know it's not a full time Quattro system but surly that's when it should kick in?

any thoughts or ideas
 

S3_Jacko

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Mine doesnt spin at all in the wet mate... So my initial thoughts are theres something not quite right with your car or poor tyres..
 

ron burgandy

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Michelin ps3 with about 6mm left all round so that can't be it, I am running stg1 remap may be have something to do with it
 

S3_Jacko

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Possibly buddy... I'm getting mine done in a couple of weeks... Excited!

What map did you go with?
 

ron burgandy

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Mine was a full custom remap done on a four wheel rolling road done by viezu
 

S3_Jacko

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Ahh... I've heard they are better they 1's but its trying to find somewhere that does them I suppose... How long you had it, and have you had any problems with your clutch?
 

ron burgandy

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Had it done when it was 9 months old and no problems whatsoever with it
 

Dean_T

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Can you feel the back end kick in at any point?

Just thinking you may have a haldex issue....?

How badly are the fronts spinning, little/lots?
 

ron burgandy

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Can you feel the back end kick in at any point?

Just thinking you may have a haldex issue....?

How badly are the fronts spinning, little/lots?

no can't feel back end kick in, I was stuck on a hill back in the summer in a load of gravel, and I honestly could not move as the front wheels were just spinning

I get a lot of spinning to the point where it kinda bounces and shudders
 

Dean_T

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I think you need to get vagcom hooked up to your car fella, something is definitely not right.
 

bmh.01

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Something isn't right haldex wise, wet traction should be pretty much absolute. The only time i've ever managed wheelspin was in snow and that was all 4 wheels.
 

ron burgandy

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I did take it into audi this time last year with this complaint and they checked it out and came back with a a clean bill of health but I just can't help think there's so etching not right
 

Adz85

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I can't understand why my s3 would wheel spin from the front wheels. Esp in the wet surly the whole idea of a Quattro is so the wheels don't spin.
I know it's not a full time Quattro system but surly that's when it should kick in?

any thoughts or ideas

What year is it? I think the older ones had a fuse in the system, which if you pulled it out (or if it blew) the car would only send power to the front wheels . The newer ones are a bit more complicated than that though!
 

Rhyso

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My mate has just had the same issue. Came up with an intermittent fault on the hydraulic pump but the garage thought it was more than likely the Haldex itself was at fault.......with the map on it would spin all the way through 2nd gear. We put it back to standard and it wasnt so bad.....

he just changed it for a B8 A4 lol. Trader beware!! Lol
 

MartayMcFly

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The fronts should only spin if the rears are too (for example, on sheet ice or wet grass). If you can get them to do anything more than a wee chirp before the back starts pushing then you've got an issue. Sounds like it might just be loose/blown haldex fuse.

Normal operation of the 4wd is that you#re aware of the rear coming in to play, but you shouldn't even notice the fronts start to slip before it does.
 

ron burgandy

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Checked fuses all are ok back to audi tomorrow then. They always make me feel there's nothing wrong and that I'm bothering them. But there checking it out again from what I've been reading its a good chance it's the haldex pre charge pump. So I'll mention that and see what they say
 

Dean_T

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Is there nowhere else you can take it?

Where abouts are you based, maybe there is a specialist near by?

I stopped taking my cars to main dealers as they were useless and expensive with it.
 

ron burgandy

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Is there nowhere else you can take it?

Where abouts are you based, maybe there is a specialist near by?

I stopped taking my cars to main dealers as they were useless and expensive with it.



its still under warranty for two and a half months at least
 

Artimus

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its still under warranty for two and a half months at least
That'll probably be why they're fobbing you off then ...hoping the Warranty will run out before you realise there is something wrong.
 

Gfermer

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Something can't be right there mine never spins and I mean never thats one reason i bought it 😄
 

jimojameso

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Def faulty haldex. My stage 2+ S3 would not spin in the rain. :(
 

veeeight

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My pre charge pump failed at 2 years and 10 months in.... replaced under warranty.

No warning lights, just spun the front wheels, and when accelerating hard, if the front wheels hit a pothole or uneven bumps in the road, the steering wheel would "tug".

The only other discernable symptom was that when the key was turned to the ignition position, you could not hear the haldex pre charge pump charge up to pressure - but this is fairly silent anyway, so unless you know how to differentiate this from the fuel pump, a VCDS scan will show the fault.
 

ron burgandy

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My pre charge pump failed at 2 years and 10 months in.... replaced under warranty.

No warning lights, just spun the front wheels, and when accelerating hard, if the front wheels hit a pothole or uneven bumps in the road, the steering wheel would "tug".

The only other discernable symptom was that when the key was turned to the ignition position, you could not hear the haldex pre charge pump charge up to pressure - but this is fairly silent anyway, so unless you know how to differentiate this from the fuel pump, a VCDS scan will show the fault.



what fault scan code came up. I did take it for an oil change last month and they said at audi no faults came up
 

veeeight

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1 Fault Found:
00448 - Haldex Clutch Pump (V181)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
 

bigal23

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I had this problem and it was the connector had broken slightly just needed new connector prong thing fitted
 

ron burgandy

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Took it to audi and again the usual "it's seems to be running fine sir". If the s3 4x4 system doesn't work in wet conditions or on gravel then really when the f@&@ does it work. And is the point of it!

is there anyone in the northwest with an audi s3 that I could go out in to see what there s does in a similiar situation?
 

veeeight

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Where specifically are you
 

ron burgandy

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in Blackpool

 

ron burgandy

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had the car scan by vcds today by Mike Foster, thanks again, and this is the fault that came up
Address 22: AWD Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 B HW: 0BR 907 554 B
Component: Haldex 4Motion 3017
Coding: 0000005
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 4482D8300784D73EF0B-8011

1 Fault Found:
00448 - Haldex Clutch Pump (V181)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 168
Mileage: 40167 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.11.12
Time: 11:28:33

so it looks like it needs a new pre charge pump!

its going in to be looked at on fri at an audi main dealer so hopefully all sorted together with an engine mangement problem

ill let you know how i get on
 

Jack_tdi

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Surely the main dealer would of picked that up if its come up on a scan.....

Tell them your going to see citizens advice once its fixed see what you can get out of them.... thats really bad customer service....
 

Staz

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No need for CAB, just take it back, show them the code and tell them you want it sorted. Then explain that you're not happy with them fobbing you off, as Dean said, be firm not rude.
 
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veeeight

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Sounds like that particular dealership is not very good .....
 

thebluefox

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Yeah they should have spotted that...or told you about it when they did.

The only times my fronts lose grip on their own is when pulling out of a specific t-junction with a loose-ish road surface, a little scrabble for grip and then the back kicks in and off I go.
 

wuta3

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Hope you get it resolved mate. I'd wrap the error code print out around my boot and shove it up their **** with a good kick.
 

ron burgandy

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Audi phoned new today with an update and yes they have found that the haldex pump is faulty and are replacing now! Only after I vcds scanned it and took it in with a print out!
now I took the audi in last year with the same fault and told there was no fault, now I'm thinking I've been driving it with this fault all this time because of there incompetence! And I will ve explaining this but my car is due it's first mot and it's fourth service due you think its worth asking to do this as complimentary as they have messed up so much in the last year
 

Dean_T

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Audi phoned new today with an update and yes they have found that the haldex pump is faulty and are replacing now! Only after I vcds scanned it and took it in with a print out!
now I took the audi in last year with the same fault and told there was no fault, now I'm thinking I've been driving it with this fault all this time because of there incompetence! And I will ve explaining this but my car is due it's first mot and it's fourth service due you think its worth asking to do this as complimentary as they have messed up so much in the last year

I would be looking for that, yes.

In effect you have had to prove what is wrong with the car for them to correct it.

In all honesty I would look for somewhere else to do the work as they are coming off as incompetent!
 

nluk100

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Get what you can out of them and try a different dealership for warranty work. For everything else i.e. servicing, use a local VAG specialist.
 
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