Wheel bolts

[Pieruss]

Hey just trying get on different alloys then standard ones, 20 inches work sw2, amazing wheels but just notice wheels got holes for m12 bolts not m14, that’s mean my standard bolts don’t fit (too wide). now looking for some solutions... any ideas? May somebody had this problem before?

 

[David Cox]

On my mini clubman I fitted 1st generation gp alloys, same situation m14 on gen2, m12 gen1.
Was lucky and wheels not sleeved so was able to drill out on a pillar drill, nice and straight then.

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

Get some M14 sleeve bolts.
I've done the same with some Wolfrace alloys on a trailer of mine.
Or drill your wheel bolt holes out, straight.

 

[Pieruss]

Don’t want to risk with drilling, don’t have enough good stuff to do it. Can’t find this sleeves what you said but what about changing bolts for studs with nuts like this one?

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323728926604

These are the sort of thing, you just need to find the right size.
I had to get mine from a specialist wheel dealer.

 

[Sidrick]

Well no, he described the issue as being the other way round.

Options:
Drill the wheels
Get custom PCD adaptor plates and bolt ($$$, might **** the offset)
Get wheels that fit your car

 

[ajax1976]

Are you sure the wheels are 112 pcd? As far as I'm aware all 5x112 cars are M14 where as Japanese cars I think are 5x114 with M12?

 

[Charlie Farley]

maybe just double check the spec's stamped on the inside face to confirm what they are.

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

Well no, he described the issue as being the other way round.

Options:
Drill the wheels
Get custom PCD adaptor plates and bolt ($$$, might **** the offset)
Get wheels that fit your car

Ah, yes. Well spotted Pike, I wondered who'd be first to notice that.

 

[Pieruss]

Aye they are 5x112, I was sure they are m14, I was surprised when couldn’t get bolt through wheel.
With spacers I’m little bit worried about my offset as wheels are already just on limit with wheel arch.
Tried to find wheels specs as well but can’t find much about them, unless someone know Chinese http://www.work-wheels.co.nz/uploads/Products/product_62/SC2_Specs.pdf

 

[Charlie Farley]

That's pretty easy to work out what spec they are from that webpage.
Just confirm wheather deep dish or not, also the offset will also be stamped on the inside face, well it should be.

 

[Pieruss]

Deep rim and says offset 9JJ
Well that is specs for sc2 but my ones are sw2? They looks this same.

 

[Pieruss]

Okay just find confirmation they are M12x1.5

 

[Pieruss]

Biggest issue right now I can’t find studs conversion from M12 to m14 unless Chinese staff but I don’t really trust them.

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

You're only talking about a 2mm bolt difference diameter. Personally I'd ream them out with a decent 14mm drill bit, if the wheels don't have sleeved holes.

 

[Charlie Farley]

Just keep in mind that a 9j width alloy on a B7 may be problematic depending on what offset they are and style of wheel aswell as deep dish alloys are not allways B7 friendly let alone in a 9j 20" format.
what size tyres are on them?

 

[Charlie Farley]

If it were me i'd abort using them and go for something else in a 8.5j 19" with an offset to suit your preference etc and already with M14 dia fitting , just my input

 

[Pieruss]

Was going through internet for last few days and some ppl saying it’s only 2mm drill then nice and easy, others then to do not touch holes at all... front tyres 225/35/20 rear 245/35/20. Uploading pics of holes if anyone can tell me it’s safe to drill? I just really love this alloys.

 

[Charlie Farley]

One rule here chap, if you are not 100% sure on what you are doing , or even if its even doable , DO NOT DO IT.
If you really want to fit them , get prof advise and go from there, do not rely on what you may have read on the interwebby .

 

[Pieruss]

Yeah that why I’m so worried about all of it, another problem because if this whole situation with COVID most places are shout...

 

[Stanningtonglen]

Yeah that why I’m so worried about all of it, another problem because if this whole situation with COVID most places are shout...

Well in that case it will give you something to look forward to once all this is over.

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

Was going through internet for last few days and some ppl saying it’s only 2mm drill then nice and easy, others then to do not touch holes at all... front tyres 225/35/20 rear 245/35/20. Uploading pics of holes if anyone can tell me it’s safe to drill? I just really love this alloys.

Hard to tell even if they are sleeved really, or if they they are radius holes from your pic. They should be really, but who knows.
As Rob says if you're 100% sure leave them alone, no matter how much you love the wheels.

 

[Pieruss]

The marked bit is flat, inside it hole going decreasing to inside like this \/

 

[Charlie Farley]

Have you tried fitting them even without bolts?
And they are for tapered bolts.

They are the correct centre bore fitting for B7 or come with spigot rings .

 

[David Cox]

What where the wheels from/ off?

 

[Pieruss]

I had to order spigot rings, centre bore in b7 have 57.1 this alloys is 70mm.

 

[Charlie Farley]

They are very odd sized alloys .

 

[Pieruss]

I know, I was sure it’s gonna be straight forward but surprise me on every single step of fitting them...

 

[Pieruss]

Ordered cobalt 14mm drill bit, decide to drill it.

 

[Charlie Farley]

That's a plan chap, just make sure you have the wheel level and the drill as upright as possible to ensure the hole is enlarged straight , you don't want wonky holes.
best of luck with .

 

[Pieruss]

Drill bit arrived this morning, was straight toward to drill through alloy. So far only one wheel fitted because ordered wrong size of spigot rings ordered new one few mins ago, should arrive on Thursday. Wheels just on limit with wheel arch

 

[David Cox]

Arch roller next on shopping list, with negative camber wound in too?
Had 8" on my caddy van, ordered 7s but wrong ones arrived, had to go severe neg to squeeze them in

 

[Pieruss]

Didn’t think about rolling arch so far, still a long list of jobs needs done, so far painted grill to black instead chrome, and alloys refurbished and working on fitting them. Next probably full de-chrome, K&N air filter, strut bars? Tint rear lights, new DRL headlights and looking towards whole car painting because is still original one and start peeling off clear lacquer... but probably will do it in Poland during my summer holiday to save some pennies. Don’t want to think about how much I’m gonna spend for all of it but bought car super cheap them can’t complain.