What have you done to your Audi A4 B7 today?

Rob Avant

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£108 to fill the old wagon… crazy business! I’m sure it was about £70 when I first bought it
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Wowcher that's a bit steep Rob, but hey on the upside you did get 1p off, but yes totally agree it's a bonkers situation and as much as everyone says it will go down , i can't see it going down any time soon .
 

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Prices really are crazy for fuel at the minute. I filled mine up on the way back from work today, for the first time in my life I paid over £2 per litre. £2.019 to be exact for Shell V-Power Diesel... :sob:
 

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Oh and the new rear discs and pads that I had fitted last week by the garage are both binding... Parked up at work this morning and a small amount of smoke was coming from both back wheels. Fml. I knew something was off as my MPG is normally 65 when cruise is on at 60 mph, today it was 30. :sadlike: Going back Thursday...
 

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Oh and the new rear discs and pads that I had fitted last week by the garage are both binding... Parked up at work this morning and a small amount of smoke was coming from both back wheels. Fml. I knew something was off as my MPG is normally 65 when cruise is on at 60 mph, today it was 30. :sadlike: Going back Thursday...
Not good news on the rear brakes, B7 rears are normally pretty reliable too.
Any indicators they were binding prior to the new items being fitted?
 

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Not good news on the rear brakes, B7 rears are normally pretty reliable too.
Any indicators they were binding prior to the new items being fitted?
None at all. Rear discs and pads were old and crusty, but performing just fine. Wanted to freshen things up a bit back there as I did fronts not too long back. I doubt I could have gotten near the 65mpg I was getting before if they were binding, so must have been ok :frown new:

My best guess is that either the slide pins have some corrosion further up that has become apparent now the thicker new discs and pads are in, or perhaps there is some dirt or a bit of a lip where the piston sits inside the cylinder? Think I'm gonna have to replace the discs and pads again, all this heat can't have done them any good.
 

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Am I wrong to be a touch disappointed with the garage for not checking this before they gave the car back to me? If it's binding to the point it's nearly halving my MPG and smoke is coming off the pads after a journey I can't help but think that should have been spotted before it came off the ramp, or at least on the test drive after the work was done.

They're lovely people, the garage is normally absolutely brilliant and I've have never had a single complaint about them, but this has left me a bit frustrated.
 

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I did my best to keep the tea flowing in my gaps between work! I'm a coffee man through and through though so my tea making skills are a bit lacking, but I did get a compliment from Nigel on the tea today so I must be improving! :laugh:

Nigel has kindly sourced the xenon headlamps for me and I've got them here, part number:

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I've had a google and can't work out if these are the adaptive versions or not! I'm not particularly fussed either way as what I'm most interested in with this swap is a) looks and b) improved light output, but if these did have it then that would be the cherry on the cake!

Just on a side note chap, do you have DRL's fitted?
 

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Am I wrong to be a touch disappointed with the garage for not checking this before they gave the car back to me? They're normally absolutely brilliant and I've have never had a single complaint about them, but this has left me a bit frustrated.
I'd be having words with them, just because they have been spot on prior, there is always a first time to get poor service.
I most certainly wouldn't be paying for new discs/pads, down to them to be honest as they should have checked the piston for correct operation also handbrake drag and any other sliding components, it is not a difficult job and not that time-consuming.
The fault is clearly in their dept and they should rectify it at their expense.
 

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Appreciate the input Rob, I will chat to them and hopefully they do the right thing. I've spent a lot of money with them, so I'm hoping the will look after me. The discs and pads only came to roughly £90 inc VAT so I hope they apologise and take this one on the chin.
 

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Yep, show them you are not happy one bit , which you're not.

That's why I rarely take anything to a garage unless it's beyond my skill set. I just don't trust garages having been ripped off many years ago, I have learnt the hard way.
At least I know what has been done and how, and worse case if I made a messup up I can only blame myself..lol
 

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Just on a side note chap, do you have DRL's fitted?
I've got one of these in too in prep for the xenon retrofit which should be starting (I hope) this week depending on Nigel's availability :yahoo:

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We have a happy B7 again! :smiley: It went back to the garage today for inspection, and it turns out the mechanic had already cleaned and inspected the caliper when the job was first done. The slide pins were still moving freely, the piston wound back and returned without trouble, but even after a second cleaning and reassembling it was still binding on both sides. From what I could gather, the handbrake mechanism on the calipers themselves were not fully letting go, which wasn't a problem on the old worn thin discs and pads, but with the brand new fat discs and pads it just wouldn't release enough to spin fully freely. Two new callipers and it's driving like a dream again, took it out for a good blast to celebrate. It brakes so much better now, so I'm wondering if the old calipers were actually doing much at all...

Just the xenons to go now and then I'm putting the saloon on a diet from my wallet for a while :sweatsmile:
 

Rob Avant

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Unhappy B7 here unfortunately…
Seem to have a big air leek on the IC pipe work. Have tracked it down to one of the joins and I’ve lost one of the clips that holds it together. Thinking about, I’ve stupidly not tightened them up for a long time.
Should be an easy fix but my new driveway is on a slope so I can’t get under the car quickly and easily now :sob:
 

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Sorry to hear that Rob, at least it should be a cheap and simple fix though!
 

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We have a happy B7 again! :smiley: It went back to the garage today for inspection, and it turns out the mechanic had already cleaned and inspected the caliper when the job was first done. The slide pins were still moving freely, the piston wound back and returned without trouble, but even after a second cleaning and reassembling it was still binding on both sides. From what I could gather, the handbrake mechanism on the calipers themselves were not fully letting go, which wasn't a problem on the old worn thin discs and pads, but with the brand new fat discs and pads it just wouldn't release enough to spin fully freely. Two new callipers and it's driving like a dream again, took it out for a good blast to celebrate. It brakes so much better now, so I'm wondering if the old calipers were actually doing much at all...

Just the xenons to go now and then I'm putting the saloon on a diet from my wallet for a while :sweatsmile:
Good news indeed chap. :yes:
Handbrake mechanism partial seizure is a regular one on B7's, hence why I mentioned it before and it does get overlooked when replacing pad/discs, so the problem just gets worse.
Great that they have sorted it out now, not at your expense though i hope.
 

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Unhappy B7 here unfortunately…
Seem to have a big air leek on the IC pipe work. Have tracked it down to one of the joins and I’ve lost one of the clips that holds it together. Thinking about, I’ve stupidly not tightened them up for a long time.
Should be an easy fix but my new driveway is on a slope so I can’t get under the car quickly and easily now :sob:
Not a good day then Rob, hopefully an easy fix, it's surprising how smaller an opening you need to create a big air leak.
best of luck with it.:yes:
 

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We have a happy B7 again! :smiley: It went back to the garage today for inspection, and it turns out the mechanic had already cleaned and inspected the caliper when the job was first done. The slide pins were still moving freely, the piston wound back and returned without trouble, but even after a second cleaning and reassembling it was still binding on both sides. From what I could gather, the handbrake mechanism on the calipers themselves were not fully letting go, which wasn't a problem on the old worn thin discs and pads, but with the brand new fat discs and pads it just wouldn't release enough to spin fully freely. Two new callipers and it's driving like a dream again, took it out for a good blast to celebrate. It brakes so much better now, so I'm wondering if the old calipers were actually doing much at all...

Just the xenons to go now and then I'm putting the saloon on a diet from my wallet for a while :sweatsmile:
I think your wallet will thank you for reduced B7 spending, they do tend to drain funds at an alarming rate sometimes.
I keep trying to convince myself it is worth it, but sometimes I'm not convinced to be honest. :yes:
 

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Once the xenon's are in, that's the last thing on my list of "wants" for the car (you can see the list in my signature :laugh:). After that, it will just be a case of routine servicing and maintaining it to keep it in on the road for as many years as possible!
 

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Nearly sold the old bus this morning, probably the closest yet too, luckily I engaged brain and it’s still, here bit of a close call.
 

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Oof what's going on there Rob, must have been a good offer to get you close to selling?!
 

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Very good and normally I’d have accepted, but it’s not always about the money.
 

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Really glad the bus is still with you Rob, we can't lose our leader from the B7 clan!
 

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It’s a bit like those old worn shoes we all have, a bit leaky sometimes and not as shinny as they used too be and well overdue to be replaced , but they are just so comfy and fit just right so why replace them with something new and it’s back to square one again.
 

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A very small thing today, in fact it's probably the cheapest thing you can buy from Audi, but at last I think I have found a use for that small space - perhaps it was always meant to be and I just didn't know. Excuse the dust, interior cleaned tomorrow and I will be doing more significant things in the near future:friendly wink:
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A very small thing today, in fact it's probably the cheapest thing you can buy from Audi, but at last I think I have found a use for that small space - perhaps it was always meant to be and I just didn't know. Excuse the dust, interior cleaned tomorrow and I will be doing more significant things in the near future:friendly wink: View attachment 254598
That's a perfect fit, nice little touch! What do you have lined up for the future? :)
 

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It's been a long time since i had this sort of economy from the old bus when just local non-motorway driving. :yahoo:
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That's a perfect fit, nice little touch! What do you have lined up for the future? :)

Well first this next weekend the respray of the new driver's wing, because I'm not happy with it, together with the plastic sill cover, since washing chemicals have made the paint perish slightly. Then when I next get some free time off intense work (July sadly), it will be going for the precautionary KMB oil pump installation - nothing wrong with it and at 230K, I must be truly lucky but I very much doubt that such an ordinary B7 has had it done - so I can truck on for another 230K ha ha. At the same time I reckon it will be sensible to do the cambelt/water pump again (done 60K ago), so she'll be ready for Europe again.:Black B7:
 

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It's been a long time since i had this sort of economy from the old bus when just local non-motorway driving. :yahoo:
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I'm sure the bus knew you nearly sold it Rob so it's trying to get back into your good books :smiley: That's good MPG for a TFSI, my last B7 had the BUL and I struggled to get into the 30's unless I was on cruise at 60mph
 

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Well first this next weekend the respray of the new driver's wing, because I'm not happy with it, together with the plastic sill cover, since washing chemicals have made the paint perish slightly. Then when I next get some free time off intense work (July sadly), it will be going for the precautionary KMB oil pump installation - nothing wrong with it and at 230K, I must be truly lucky but I very much doubt that such an ordinary B7 has had it done - so I can truck on for another 230K ha ha. At the same time I reckon it will be sensible to do the cambelt/water pump again (done 60K ago), so she'll be ready for Europe again.:Black B7:
Sounds good! I did replaced the hex key in mine with the updated KMB unit, it only had 93k on when I had the job done but was advised that anything over 100k can be dangerous on these engines so it was best not to take the chance. I've heard stories of cars with as low as 50k miles have had them fail and kill the engine! Luckily my hex key was near perfect when it got swapped out with the uprated unit, but nice to have peace of mind nonetheless.
 

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I'm sure the bus knew you nearly sold it Rob so it's trying to get back into your good books :smiley: That's good MPG for a TFSI, my last B7 had the BUL and I struggled to get into the 30's unless I was on cruise at 60mph

Mine does that, I swear, every time I thought of selling her, she drives so smoothly and effortlessly, even refraining from smoking her non DPF *** off. And every time I spoil her with improvements she amazes me for a 16 year old 'bus', ha ha.
 

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To be fair to the old bus, all things considered, it used to be ok consumption wise even after a few remaps.
Things went a bit tits up when I fitted the 034 HFC which did have a noticeable effect on consumption, it sort of calmed down when that came off only to take a dive again with the full decat downpipe.
now back with the OE cat it is a bit more user friendly on the fuel cost.
It was to be expected that fueling would go out of the windows with any kind of free-flowing cat or non-cat system, so self-inflicted really..lol

Even with the most recent remap, the low end has improved with the OE cat-back on but the midrange has dropped noticeably whereas with the full decat pipe on low end was lacking a bit but the midrange was excellent.

Until I have implemented a cunning plan to get a setup through the MOT within emissions the OE cat is staying on .
 

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I'm sure the bus knew you nearly sold it Rob so it's trying to get back into your good books :smiley: That's good MPG for a TFSI, my last B7 had the BUL and I struggled to get into the 30's unless I was on cruise at 60mph
Ah, so your previous B7 was either a DTM or special Ed 220 then, why the change to the current flavour?
 

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Sounds good! I did replaced the hex key in mine with the updated KMB unit, it only had 93k on when I had the job done but was advised that anything over 100k can be dangerous on these engines so it was best not to take the chance. I've heard stories of cars with as low as 50k miles have had them fail and kill the engine! Luckily my hex key was near perfect when it got swapped out with the uprated unit, but nice to have peace of mind nonetheless.
Yes I can't understand why mine has lasted this long - I've sent an email to KMB with the Vin number - but I have no records, and as I say no reason to believe it has been done in the past. Just hope I last till July now (gulp) - I thought range anxiety was for EVs ha ha
 

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Ah, so your previous B7 was either a DTM or special Ed 220 then, why the change to the current flavour?
Special Edition 220 Quattro was my last one.

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It was a truly great car, but I never bonded with it properly like I have with my current one. It was higher mileage at 125k, and was what I would call a 10 footer. I did my utmost to make it as nice as I could (the above photo was taken on it's good side!), but the closer you got, more marks became apparent (being black certainly didn't help that), which really irked the perfectionist in me... If I was ever going to keep it long term, I would have had to give it a full respray for my OCD to be 100% happy with it, and at that point it made sense to sell it and pick up a replacement car with lower miles in better condition.

And I know I'm in the minority on this preference, but I much prefer diesel engines over petrol, and regretted the TFSI pretty soon after I got it, wishing I'd have gone instead with the TDI from the start. My last car was a Peugeot 406 with the 2.0 HDI engine, and while this was certainly a good amount faster, I just missed the way the diesel behaved, and especially missed the MPG!

Much like my current one, it never wanted for anything mechanically. In my ownership I made sure the cam follower was changed regularly, did the cam chain + tensioner soon after I bought it, and only ever ran it on Fuchs Titan Race Pro-S 5w-40 oil. Mechanically it was very sound (and didn't have the suspension clunk like my current one does!), but unfortunately for someone like myself that likes to have things visually perfect, it was never destined to stay with me for long.
 
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Special Edition 220 Quattro was my last one.

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It was a truly great car, but I never bonded with it properly like I have with my current one. It was higher mileage at 125k, and was what I would call a 10 footer. I did my utmost to make it as nice as I could (the above photo was taken on it's good side!), but the closer you got, more marks became apparent (being black certainly didn't help that), which really irked the perfectionist in me... If I was ever going to keep it long term, I would have had to give it a full respray for my OCD to be 100% happy with it, and at that point it made sense to sell it and pick up a replacement car with lower miles in better condition.

And I know I'm in the minority on this preference, but I much prefer diesel engines over petrol, and regretted the TFSI pretty soon after I got it, wishing I'd have gone instead with the TDI from the start. My last car was a Peugeot 406 with the 2.0 HDI engine, and while this was certainly a good amount faster, I just missed the way the diesel behaved, and especially missed the MPG!

Much like my current one, it never wanted for anything mechanically. In my ownership I made sure the cam follower was changed regularly, did the cam chain + tensioner soon after I bought it, and only ever ran it on Fuchs Titan Race Pro-S 5w-40 oil. Mechanically it was very sound (and didn't have the suspension clunk like my current one does!), but unfortunately for someone like myself that likes to have things visually perfect, it was never destined to stay with me for long.
I appreciate your thinking chap, it does look rather nice all the same.
I think personal preference very important to the individual and you opted to move to something you prefer which is fully understandable.
What works for one may not for another.
Now if the special ed above was a diesel special ed and in the condition etc of your current version that may have been a good option. :yes:

I still like the first one aswell.
 

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That's exactly it Rob, I know a lot of people would say I'm mad going from the 220 TFSI to the 140 TDI, but it's what I prefer! But I can also fully understand why the majority prefer the TFSI, having owned one myself and seeing how good they are as well :yes:

Like a lot of the Special Edition car's it seems, it was missing a lot of options that I think should have been standard on the SE. It didn't have cruise (which I retrofitted), ambient lighting, floor lights, door lights, or xenons, though it did have the RNS-E (which I would have replaced with a modern Apple CarPlay / Android Auto unit had I kept it long term, like I have in my current one, as the RNS-E was very dated). As such, after the retrofits done to my current one, the interior is a far nicer place to be than the black one and far better equipped now :smiley:

My ideal spec car (if it existed!) would have been a TDI 140 SE saloon, specced with all the options yours has Rob - however TDI SE's were only available in 170 guise which were unfortunately burdened with a DPF, unlike the 140's which only have a catalytic converter. I know I could have simply gutted it and mapped it out, but with MoT checks tightening on cars factory fitted with DPF's, I didn't want the worry. Also, in my experience, the 170s are much more lethargic lower in the rev range due to the larger turbocharger required for the higher power naturally taking longer to spool, and that definitely made them feel less spritely in terms of in-gear pulling power at low revs compared to the 140. But as this ideal specced car does not exist from factory, I'm slowly but surely retrofitting my current one to get to my ideal B7 :)
 

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I had thought about the 3.0 TDI as an option too, an absolute torque monster, however the super-complex cam chain setup that practically requires engine-out to replace put me off, and also had the same DPF issue as the 170.
 
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