Only if it goes to court, which if you have someone who will happily take the points then it won't. They're not interested in who was driving they just want the £60.
My wife got done on a mobile trap in Jan and genuinely didn't know if it was her or her mum driving so asked for photo evidence. The police said the photo wouldn't show who was driving and said it would be easier if one of them just paid up. Now if my wife had paid up and she wasn't driving then she would be just as guilty of perjury. They didn't seem that bothered. She refused the NIP and asked for photo evidence, which they duly sent, over 3 months later and still awaiting the court summons.
Everyone I implore you DO NOT sign any NIP's you get, leave it for the maximum 28 days, then plead not guilty & take it to court, beat the feckers at their own game, call their bluff. The court system is on its knees already and cannot cope, I don't think an additional 2 million cases per year will help the situation. It is the police's obligation to prove who was driving and with every NIP they fail to do so with this joke of blackmailing people into holding their hands up.
If you do eventually get a summons you can always then plead guilty at the last minute (based on the photo evidence), you do NOT have to go to court (unless you are on 9 points or excessively speeding, in which case you'd have to go to court anyway and the NIP offer is redundant).
OK you will get a stiffer fine, but it's more likely they'll either bin the case or run out of time to present it to the courts (they only have 6 months from the offence).
Maybe then they'll actually concentrate on the real causes of accidents on our roads i.e. plain bad driving/mobile phone use/uninsured drivers & unfit vehicles.
On the subject of speeding and lazer traps, whilst drivng along the same bit of A34 I got done with a lazer trap, I noticed there was a slip road to make a u-turn in the grass bit that seperates the roads with which you are heading, king of a dual carriageway, but with a 30 mph restriction.
What would have happened if I had known that I was going to be done for my stupid speed, and with my quick thinking and reactions, I brake sharpely and do a quick u-turn to avoid the trap?
AFAIK, thay havn't taken a pic of my car, with the only evidence of my speed being a number on a lazer gun, would I have got away with it?... in hindsite that is... or one for the future
"You get a stiffer fine but Im sure you end up with 6 points instead of the 3?"
No, still the same 3 points, the offence hasn't changed, just the way you would like to deal with it. The stiffer fine is just to cover court costs.
6 points would be for offences that would not be dealt with by a NIP offer anyway, so it would have to go to court regardless.
The camera vans here in Leicestershire have weird looking long lens.
If it was unmarked, then it sounds like a tax checking vehicle.
Was there any speed camera warning signs up? I believe by law they have to warn you.
Round here, they occasionaly put the camera van in area's where there isn't permanent camera warning signs. But when they do, they put up temp signs on lamposts and a stand alone one at the side of the road.
Like Mr Rev-Head says, don't count your chickens yet, but I think you can be hopeful :icon_thumright: