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SKODA FABIA TDi faster than an S3

Peter82 Aug 3, 2020

  1. Peter82

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    So if mine A3 tdi 2.0 can be tuned to the top, will I get even more bhp and top speed? Currently mine top speed is 140 mph-145 mph downhill

     
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  3. Lehn

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    What a bold headline! 165mph = 265,5kmh ;)

    I got my S3 to show 269kmh stock but it will go 280kmh unrestricted.

     
  4. Peter82

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    Ar u sure autotrader mostly shows correct specs and values an S3 top speed is 155mph... You went max 265kmh same as fabia 164mph
    I wanna see 280 ! I don't believe :)
     

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  5. Mr Freeze

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    What power is your TDI
     
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    I said in first post 184bhp top speed 140 managed once 145mhp
     

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  7. Lehn

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    I'm saying the S3 can do 280kmh unrestricted since it's soft limited. The A3 190hp can do 244kmh so of course the 310hp S3 can do a lot more than the soft limited 250kmh.

    The Fabia showed 165mph in the speedometer, mine showed 269kmh (167mph).

    You don't compare an S3 to a Fabia without gettin in trouble for it ;) haha

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  8. Mr Freeze

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    I owned a 184 A3 a while back with a stage 1 map made a massive difference
     
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  9. Peter82

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    I heard 240 bhp is dat right?
    What was top speed after tuning?
     
  10. Peter82

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    Aah after tuning "unrestricted" yeah some has maxed to the 400bhp yeah it has to be equal fabia tuned so s3 tuned of course it will be much faster :)
    but I wanted to compare with stock.. you know
     
  11. Lehn

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    Okay you really have to understand what I write. Unrestricted = no soft limiter, but stock power. For instance the Honda Civic Type R with 320hp/320nm (S3 310hp/400nm) can do 272kmh (283 in the speedometer), which kinda shows that my point of the S3 being able to at least show +280kmh is plausible.

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  13. Peter82

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    Don't worry I know what u mean as I said tuned so remap same thing the soft limiter has nothing to do with it that's only restricted in stationary parking mode once you set cars to dynamics turned off traction control step on brake, floor gas, no more soft limiter
    Those 280 od is defo stages 1,2 or 3 dones..
    My point is, that it's unbelievable that cheap škoda fabia can be tuned so high to S3 equivalent power and plus it's tdi.
    So mine A3 184 can be tuned even more than fabia and of course S3 can be tuned even 450bhp I believe
     
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  14. Lehn

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    You just proved that you don't understand what I'm writing.

    Soft limiter = computer limited top speed and has NOTHING to do with power.

    The Civic in the video is stock. Here's a link to the video:


    Here is a bad translation of the french in the video description:
    Review our acceleration test aboard the new Honda Civic Type R 2018, equipped with a 320 ch (=320hp) turbo 2.0 turbo engine. The advertised top speed is 272 km / h, but a descent on the German motorway allows us to close 283 km/h.

    I will stop here but what I just wanted you to understand is; 1. if you make a bold statement you will get a bold answer 2. if you post something that is simply a wrong statement I will do my best to prove it is.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    Man really sorry I know what you mean but I don't want to see some Honda.. I want to see S3 do more than that fabia show me 280kmh on an S3 please don't mix here some Japanese tuned cars.. PROOOVE what you said that an S3 can do top speed 280kmh!!
    162mhp vs 165mph isn't any much faster both will hit finish line same time...
    There is nothing 'bold' I like proven facts not just talking about it
     
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  16. Craig_s85

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    Even if they both had the same top speed the s3 would destroy it on acceleration,so no they wouldn't hit the finish line at the same time.

    Finding an s3 that has been de restricted without a map will be hard.
     
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    Tdi has better torque over petrol or am I mistaken? That's what I heard..
    Fabia has 'volkswagen' engine, s3 has too, so fabia had limiter too.. How did they removed it?
    But of course S3 is better of course ... They had to 'dig through' that fabia inside out.. of course bigger turbo bigger inlet pipes better air intake .. to achieve this speed
     
  18. Craig_s85

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    No tdi has more torque than power usually, also has a very small power band compared to a petrol engine.

    Maybe they don't bother putting limiters on cars they know won't go over 155mph in stock form?
     
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    Autotrader claims ordinary S3 top speed 155 mph
     
  20. Craig_s85

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    yes it's limited to that speed by audi.the car could go faster though.

    Most high performance German cars are limited to 155 regardless of power.

    2016 rs6 has 530bhp but still limited to 155.
     
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    Whaaat??? even rs ??? Are you joking??? that sucks .. what's the point then have RS
     
  22. Mr Freeze

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    Mine made 218 bhp and 400 nm stage 1

    Never tried the top speed
     
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    I'm surprised you didn't know that. It's been that way for years - a voluntary code to avoid it being legislated for.
     
  24. Peter82

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    Very nice .. In december last year, I had offer remap £200. I had car since June but I said maybe later so this might be the time now to do some tuning haha :D
    Yeah here is video tuned to 237 :
     
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  25. Craig_s85

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    Yes,just Google various high performance German cars and you will see most are limited to 155 but all could go higher.
     
  26. Peter82

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    Thought bhp is measured what top speed car has ..
    You wanna tell me know that some aston martin or lambos or mc larens or porches in uk gonna have top speed 155??
    Well when am checking cars on carwow vids drag races they go over 155 so ? 165 - 170 so not 155 ??
     
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    So JUST german cars right ?
    Yeah I know they can go higher I want to know stock ..
    Thought mine stock is 140-145 so S3 has 155 and RS models even more hmm
     
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  28. Dubjam

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    Top speed has pretty much zero relevance in a daily driven car..

    How fast it gets to a certain speed from a certain speed, however, does.
     
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    So why everyone doing it ?? why everyone expect to be faster?? what's the point drag racing ? once all cars pass accelerate point , highest gear and waiting who is faster?
    so then according you no point doing all tunings or bhps or lets's get rid of all fast cars and get 1.0L 100bhp cars right?
     
  30. Craig_s85

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    I don't understand what you're trying to argue about?having a 155mph limiter has nothing to do with how quickly the car gets to it.

    Most don't buy a car to do top speed runs everytime they go out.

    Also a stock s3 will get to about 105mph on a 1/4 drag.
     
  31. AudiNutta

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    Guys let’s call it quits here please and draw a line in the sand.

    @Peter82 Peter, every member is entitled to their own opinion and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with the way this has been delivered.
     
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  32. AudiNutta

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    @Peter82 @Dubjam Guys I’ve removed 12 of the previous posts, there wasn’t much in some of them that was worth salvaging so I’ve cleared the lot as most wouldn’t make sense without the original post anyway.
     
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  34. Dubjam

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    I beg to disagree, I think the new poster with his offensive posting style should really be left public till he eventually meets his ban. But thats just my opinion, shame though, as I wrote out some decent responses especially around 1/4 mile and track speeds etc. It's a shame to lose educated and balanced responses because of rowdy and offensive ones.

    You've also some of his rowdy ones and deleted my responses. I hardly care tbh, but I am just trying to gauge why this would be as I don't like being made out to be a mug and definitely not something in the same manner as that numpty.

    ..but anyways, you're the boss, no worries.
     
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  35. AudiNutta

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    We are a family friendly forum, the offending posts weren’t to be left in public view or else what would be the point in having a moderation team?

    I’ve sifted through what I can and removed what I believe breaks the rules we have here on ASN.

    https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/audi-sport-net-rules-usage-guidelines.132385/

    Unfortunately subsequently I removed a large amount of posts because without the original posts, your responses wouldn’t have made a lot of sense.

    Can we leave this here now please, public discussion on this matter has ended.
     
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  36. Simon1972

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    I'm not sure there is one !
     
  37. Peter82

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    Tons of them the whole world watching it .. I hope you don't live under rock lately :D (joking)
    Mat Watson states in his videos , who has an sport car can go there and have a drag race .. this fabia video is just released 2 days back .. I can message them and tell them to go there and do race :)
    https://www.youtube.com/c/carwow/videos
     
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    Getting back to performance Skodas. On the Skoda Yeti forum was a BOSS FOX. If you do a bit of an internet search up comes the early stage modification that pumped out over 500bhp using a 2.5L Audi engine. Around Snetterton? this out performed an Arial Atom. Later developments saw 700bhp. Standing next to the car it looked like a stock Yeti.
    If you have 10 minutes to spare look it up.

    Colin
     
  39. AlS3BE

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    Back to original post. We aren’t comparing apples with apples here. A heavily modified Skoda that’s had probably £10k+ worth of tuning compared with a stock s3. If I dropped £10k on s3 I reckon 4-500bhp is achievable. my money would be on the stock s3 anyway as with any high torque fwd getting the power down on the tarmac is difficult as opposed to a dry track. My old stock 190bhp tdi could light up the tyres in 3rd where as most Quattro cars can be launched by any idiot in any conditions.

    as for the 155 limit or any top speed for that matter it’s irrelevant. It’s how fast you get there that’s important. I could gear a 1.0 fiesta to do 200mph if you give it enough road and space.
    the 155 limit as far as I know is set there as any faster the gatsos don’t work cause you would cross the first and last line before the cameras could take the pics and Audi do sell performance packs to go beyond 155. The rs6 performance does more and if you get the carbon ceramic brakes option they let you go even faster.
     
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    Really they spent 10k on tuning?? Do you reckon? jesus .. mghh I would never spend so much.
    Yeah of course I would pick S3 too, I am saving for one.. but I would never spend 10k even on s3 upgrade I would leave it as it is.
    But skoda maybe cost them 1k compare to S3 15k and I think they just did it for themselves for free as they own garage and even they own their own drag race track shown in video ..
    Well I thought depending on bhp the faster car goes but it is how quickly car will pick the speed .. But my A3 has 145 A3 150 has 125 or 130 s3 155 so thought more bhp more top speed.. Really didn't know an RS 3 will have top speed 155... that is shame at least 170 it should have such strong car
    so A5 or an A7 has top speed 155 too ?? Only audi same applies for mercedes or BMW???
    No man c'moon not a chance do with 1.0 fiesta 200mhp haha you now overreacting :D I ve seen lambo barely hitting 200mhp ...
    I just found someone with RS6 did 200mhp that is stupid and crazy, insane! ... that is too much He could literally lift of almost!!!
    Better audi did limiter on S3 to 155 that is completely enough !!!
     
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  41. AlS3BE

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    On a 2.0 tdi you will need injectors, turbo, exhaust, intercooler and maybe engine internals and you would stupid not to upgrade the brakes and suspension to cope with the extra power plus labour and remapping so it’s easily £10k for a retail punter.
    As for top speeds of cars like the rs, in the 90s the McLaren f1 and jag xj220 could do around 230mph with 600 ish bhp so would expect modern cars Like the rs6 with all these modern gubbins to be faster.
    top speed is a **** thing to boast. Your car might hit 200mph in 5 minutes but mine tops out at 120 in 15 seconds. You won’t even see my tail lights I will be that far ahead and there wouldn’t be a road long enough for you to catch up. What they should have posted with that fabia is 0-60/100/150, 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile etc. That will show how good it is.
     
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    Yeah I know I know.. bigger engines and twin turbos do the tricks .. oh mine would never hit 200 even tuned .. 2.0 engines has its limits I believe.. They showed dash so if you count you will see how long it took to reach 60mph but they spinned a lot so not good start..

    Here, in this video only one lambo (possibly tweaked) had top speed 220 others less..and they are supercars
    Many ppl espec. in USA love to do top speeds .. that what is fun for if you owning sport car
    I don't like ppl who buys car only to show off to their neighbors, so pathetic, naive and sad, parked car and sat in their driveway literally never used.. ending up selling it..
     
  43. PaulWhitt82

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    Remember guys limiting top speed to 155 also means they limit the amount of costs

    ie better components for suspension and brakes specifically if the car is not limited to 155

    tyres and cooling also become a factor
     
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