S4 Alarm Going Off

Afternoon All,

I have an issue with my alarm, which goes off randomly, usually at night. I'm hoping someone has had a similar problem.

Car: 2010MY B8 S4 Avant (without keyless entry)

Problem: Alarm goes off randomly at night (3 times last night, hasn't done it for 6 weeks or so prior to this)

Containment: Unlock car with fob, lock again.

Info: All door locks work fine, no other issues with car. (data logs below)

My question is what is the root cause of the alarm going off, at the moment I have two thoughts:

- Door handle sensors (known fault)
- Vehicle energy management system (thinks 12v Battery is low, possibly reset current battery adaptions)

So, first a log from this morning:

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Chassis Type: 8K (8T0)

Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 30 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 5F

62 72


VIN: WAUZZZ8K1AA126187 Mileage: 123910km/76994miles


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000

55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000



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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAKA) Labels: 06E-907-551-CAK.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 907 551 HW: 8K0 907 551

Component: 3.0T SIMOS84 H06 0005

Revision: --------

Coding: 010C000C240F0128

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551 A01007

ROD: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551.rod

VCID: EED9625C3182496EF9B-80BB


No fault code found.

Readiness: 0000 0001


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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels: 0B5-927-156.clb

Part No SW: 8K1 927 156 B HW: 0B5 927 156 E

Component: 0B5 30TFSIRdW H03 0003

Revision: --H03--- Serial number: 0000000395

Coding: 000001

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02043

ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod

VCID: 346D30349F2EA3BE4FF-8061


No fault code found.


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BC HW: 8K0 907 379 BC

Component: ESP8 quattro H04 0020

Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------

Coding: 290500

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 7BFFDB08FAF0ACC6CE5-802E


No fault code found.


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP HW: 8K0 907 064 DP

Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0327

Revision: 00002001

Coding: 011200

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 810329E0181C4616149-80D4


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 AG HW: 8T0 959 754 AG

Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H37 0060


Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D HW: 8K0 905 852 D

Component: J764 ELV MLB H37 0042


No fault code found.


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: Redir Fail!

Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 AG HW: 8T2 820 043 AG

Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171

Revision: D1000000 Serial number: 01260120100875

Coding: 66140000

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 77F7C738C6D888A6AAD-8022


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P HW: 8K0 907 063 P

Component: BCM1 1.0 H25 0380

Revision: 10025001 Serial number: 00000000448446

Coding: 260050914034AF010001000300001D0D0F1D470A00010141000000

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 3C7D1814BF7E6BFE87F-8069


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K2 955 119 A HW: 8T2 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB

Component: WWS 180110 H05 0070

Coding: 00FD11


Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB

Component: RLS H04 0003

Coding: 025028


Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL HW: 8K0 941 531 AL

Component: E1 - LDS H08 0090


No fault code found.


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 R HW: 8K0 919 475 A

Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0070

Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 50941003401763

Coding: 10010D

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 489574C4FBA6375E137-801D


No fault code found.


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 G HW: 8K0 959 655 G

Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H39 0560

Serial number: 003EFD0BCMKO

Coding: 30363435363030303030554A3052384B3053

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010

ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod

VCID: 418369E0D09C0616D49-8014


Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:

Serial number: 6334MSME50010B550


Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:

Serial number: 6344MSME4E426D52O


Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:

Serial number: 6352QSME6C4D2D04V


Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:

Serial number: 6362QSME6E4D3408U


Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:

Serial number: 63732SME364E1A0C6


Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side:

Serial number: 63832SME684E3C0EI


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F HW: 8K0 953 568 F

Component: Lenks.Modul H16 0014

Revision: -------- Serial number: 90315JAR0007T

Coding: 000037

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 3D7B1510A46462F6B01-8068


Component: E221 - MFL H02 0010


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb

Part No SW: 8K0 920 980 P HW: 8K0 920 980 P

Component: KOMBIINSTR. H05 0255

Revision: 00200000 Serial number: CJ123MW1A

Coding: 2F07110002002600010000

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 3F876F18AE6870E6A2D-806A


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb

Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 T HW: 8T0 907 468 K

Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0105

Revision: EB800053 Serial number: 5300E101180091

Coding: 00C303

Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000

VCID: 52A156AC0DFA8D8E7D3-8007


Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E HW: 8K0 915 181 E

Component: J367-BDM H07 0170


1 Fault Found:

03041 - Energy Management Active

000 - - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 7

Fault Frequency: 11

Reset counter: 57

Mileage: 122598 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2014.07.30

Time: 05:50:00


Freeze Frame:

Bin. Bits: 00000

Voltage: 12.30 V

Count: 17
 
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Address 30: Special Function II (J843) Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 907 440 B HW: 8K0 907 440


Component: STS H04 0020


Revision: S0H04000 Serial number: 00000000013976


Coding: 01010101000000000000000102


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 2D5B25507404F276001-8078



No fault code found.



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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H HW: 8K0 959 793 D


Component: TSG FA H11 0306


Revision: Serial number: 0000009962160


Coding: 011C02204021410001


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 458B7DF0CCB42A36E81-8010



No fault code found.



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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP HW: 8K0 907 064 DP


Component: BCM2 1.1 H02 0327


Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0126104558


Coding: 013B062220390C000030023280000000


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 810329E0181C4616149-80D4



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177


Component: DWA-Sensor H02 0040



Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C


Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501



No fault code found.



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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb


Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AN HW: 8T0 035 223 AK


Component: DSP Prem H10 0190


Revision: 00010001 Serial number: 34882001151201


VCID: 7AF1DE0CF5CA95CED53-802F



No fault code found.



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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H HW: 8K0 959 792 D


Component: TSG BF H11 0306


Revision: Serial number: 0000009948537


Coding: 011C02204021410001


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 448D60F4C78E133EFFF-8011



No fault code found.



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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H HW: 8K0 907 801 H


Component: EPB Audi B8 H09 0100


Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 10000000423999


Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000


VCID: 346D3034972EA3BE4FF-8061



No fault code found.



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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb


Part No: 8K5 907 357


Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010


Revision: 00000001 Serial number:


Coding: 0000004


Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000


VCID: F7F7473886D808A62AD-80A2



No fault code found.



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Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!


Part No SW: 4F0 035 053 J HW: 4F0 035 053


Component: Radio U Basic H45 0052


Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 341B-0A7699532


Coding: 010003010000000001


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 244DC07427CE333EDFF-8071



No fault code found.



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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb


Part No SW: 8T2 035 666 F HW: 8T2 035 666 E


Component: H-BN-EU H47 0143


Revision: -------- Serial number: 475BV0A7544071


Coding: 01010101020681ED01000B1E000000030000


Shop #: WSC 00047 210 184061


VCID: 3E79121CA96279EEA9B-806B



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 J


Component: EUR 2010 1005



Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604 HW: 4F0 919 604


Component: DU7 High H43 0306



Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609 F HW: 8T0 919 609 F


Component: E0380 Bedient H08 0100



Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 906 961 A


Component: CD-Database 1293



No fault code found.



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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C HW: 8K0 959 795 C


Component: TSG HL H10 0306


Revision: Serial number: 0000102691423


Coding: 010C02204021210001


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 428166ECDD9A1D0ECD3-8017



No fault code found.



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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb


Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C HW: 8K0 959 795 C


Component: TSG HR H10 0306


Revision: Serial number: 0000102691442


Coding: 010C02204021210001


Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000


VCID: 428166ECDD9A1D0ECD3-8017



No fault code found.



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I then did some further digging on VAG-COM, and interrogated the convenience module:











After some digging on the internet I found the following, a TSB for A5/S5/A4/S4 regarding a similar issue- not my car does not have keyless entry.


audi_tsb_zps463d6d9e.jpg



The symptoms are all very similar, but my information isn't sufficient to know what the codes are in Module 46 > Block 18 (i.e. what does a value of 2.0 mean?)


- TSB suggests Value 2 (no communication)

- VW 'Tech-Tips' suggests Value 2 (Front Passenger Rotary Latch Switch)


Tech_tips_zps39a7d907.jpg



So, where to go from here...?


My other question is regarding handed faults (i.e. passenger side) is Ross-Tech mature enough to understand implications RHD/LHD regarding fault handling. I.e. I'm using a VW America Tech Tip to decipher a European fault code, I presume fault code descriptions change with RHD/LHD?


Further information on supported codes my car has:


Module 05: Nothing Stored

Front Drivers Door: Nothing Stored

Front Passenger Door: Nothing Stored

Central Conv:





CAN 19:




Rear Left Door:




Rear Right Door:




Any help greatly appreciated!


Many Thanks,


Pete
 

JIMMY79

Registered User
looks to me like your battery is going flat.Your alarm also works on a voltage drop,ie the door is opened the interior light comes on the voltage drops & the alarm goes off.If your battery is failing the voltage drops slightly the alarm will sound.
 

razza1

Registered User
Oddly enough my alarm was apparently going off at work today...no obvious causes and battery meter showed 100%...
 

AFN1980

Registered User
Hi There, I had a similar issue with my car where the alarm would go off randomly. Day or night. I did not have the benefit of a vcds but took it to Audi as under warranty. They found a problem with the bonnet switch/sensor and it was replaced. Same thing happened again and again a faulty switch/sensor on the bonnet.

Has been replaced again and not had the issue. Sorry i don't understand the coding you have put up but just thought i would share my experience with a similar issue. I also have a 2010 B8 S4 Avant.

I have had the battery meter enabled and it shows 100% so if it happens again i can check that to to see if it's the battery.

Cheers
 

rum4mo

Registered User
I had similar problems years ago with a 4 year old Cav GSI 4X4, initially it was a nuisance as it would arm the alarm mainly while I was at work - in the company carpark, security used to say "its gone off again!". As the horn assembly on that car was easy to reach, I temporarly fitted an inline fuse of a low value, really to see how frequently this was happening, and luckily, all the time the system was armed, you could hear a very quiet "tick" from the alarm horn, so to check, all I had to do was to listen to see if I could hear the "tick" while the bonnet was still closed. Next as I really needed to do something to sort it out, I replaced the car battery - problem gone for the next 4 years, then it came back again, replaced battery - problem gone. The problem seemed to be that the battery while cooling down, would drop in voltage although it worked okay to start the car etc the winter prior to this, ie 100% okay except for this alarm issue. On that subject, if you do replace a battery on an S4, is there not something you need to do to "introduce" teh new battery to the car, BTW my 2011 S4 claims to have some smart energy saving/battery optimising charging system - they maybe they (B8) all have.
 
Cheers for the replies gents, did some more digging on VAG-COM and found battery health to be lower (38Ah from a 110Ah battery).

Replaced the 12v with the 'correct' one from halfrauds last night (65Ah) and VCDS shows 63Ah capacity and no problems with alarm last night or this morning.

Will see how this goes for the next few weeks, and then replace 12V with the correct one from Audi.

Cheers

Pete

P.S- I asked TPS for a price on door sensors (common failure?) and was told these are only present on cars with keyless entry (so not an issue on mine)
 
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