Well it’s not utter garbage. APR have tuned their map to pull aggressive timing when IAT’s are breached. Follow the US forums, follow the intercooler manufacturers to see what happens to the cooler after 4/5/6 repeated runs and then how long it takes the cooler to recover.
You will get away with it on a 10-15sec dyno pull but fit timing or logging equipment to your car and log 100-200kmh times run after run after run and you will see each time the 100-200 figures get slower and slower.
Standard turbo boosts at 1.3 bar and pulls timing out of the standard map after about 4-5 back to back 100-200’s due to high IAT’s.
Now boost the turbo up at 1.6-1.7 bar and it doesn’t take much at all to trigger the IAT map. We have had a crazy hot consistent summer now (relatively speaking for normal U.K. weather)
It was 30c a few days ago, even with the Forge cooler and Stage 1 I never even bothered my **** boosting the turbo. Too hot.
I guess because I consistently log my car, consistently time it, modded and stock, I see exactly what’s going on behind the scenes.
From my own experience, testing and logging. The standard cooler is utter garbage and it should be a necessity to fit a cooler to a stage 1 car. You can get it to pull timing on the standard map and 1.3 bar so go figure what happens on a Stage 1 car and 1.65 bar.
Go on the other forums and groups, tuner pages etc and they all say the same thing.
But my car ran an 11.3 on the 1/4m and got a 480 on the dyno? That’s great, you got those figures once or twice for a few seconds.
Just my 2p worth and it’s no more valid or true than Monopoles own testing. If the standard cooler suits some then great.
Against a Stage 2 S3 though suggests his car should be doing much better.
My Stage 1 TTRS is posting 10.5 1/4m times, completely different stratosphere to a Stage 2 2.0t screamer.
