S3 Stage 2 help

[Bryant1998]

Hello,

I’ve recently bought a 59 reg S3 (54k on the clock) and I’m very happy with it. As far as I’m aware it’s been stage 1 remapped and I’m more than happy with the power as I had a 57 plate a3 s line black edition before (160bhp). Just wondering what sort of parts people have tried and tested for stage 2... and maybe higher

I’m in no rush as I still want to get used to the car before I whack another 50+ bhp into the mix. I’ve seen various threads on people using rs4 brakes, r8 brakes etc etc. Has anyone on here tried various types of upgraded braking systems? And to what extent?

Basically any knowledge on the car would be great,

Cheers

 

[nluk100]

You're not going to get 50 bhp going from stage 1 to stage 2, more like 20. Most people go straight to stage 2+ which is thew best bang for buck for the S3. That will give you 50 bhp, but more importantly, a huge increase in mid range torque from the uprated hpfp. I never had any issues with standard brakes, just pop some decent pads in i.e. DS2500 and replace your fluid with Motul RB 600 or similar.

 

[Eren S3]

For Stage 2 some places ask for a minimum of a cold air intake and full exhaust system like a turbo back with high flow cat. Add that to some good spark plugs like the NGK iridium ones and good oil (I'm using Quantum 5w40 but I have nearly 100,000 miles more on the clock lol).

As above said, most go straight for Stage 2 if no map already or Stage 2+. All personal preference at the end of the day though, mine may already have a Stage 1 map but I'm yet to get that confirmed. Shop around, I'm in the same boat at the moment trying to find the perfect place to map mine. Brakes wise, yeah +1 to the above, standard brakes are very very good on their own but with some decent pads in them they're even nicer.

Cheers.

 

[ch1z64]

If your looking for a good mixture off disc's ( brembo) + ( textar ) pads i notice the combination works fine for me and i am St1. Most S3 will easily take an St1 with stock but usually as the guys have said they change things out.
Worth having a look @samuelh_888 or @leshkin , @mechanic69 builds and they will keep you right

 

[leshkin]

Welcome to the forum!

Unless you're going to be doing track days or hammering the car around Welsh countryside, stock brakes should be fine for now as long as they are in good condition and you don't ask more of them, then they can handle.

I'd focus on the rubbish handling that stock suspension provides (assuming yours is stock). Once this is done, brakes and then more power if that's where you want to go.

 

[paddy]

Agree with Lesh
I just junked a set of vagbremtechniks in favour of going back to std S3 brakes and with stg 2+ they are fine.
Unless you are doing track days where you might get fade with prolonged high speed use they are more than capable on the road, in truth just because you have stg2+ doesnt really mean you need more brakes or go faster, you just get there a bit quicker.
I picked mine up from the garage this week and the mechanics was gobsmacked at how quick it was and this is a place that specialised in stg2 mini tuning I mention this because although i have a 3" cast APR downpipe and sport cat i am running a std exhaust which sounds incredible when you boot it so be very careful how you spend your money, its easy to spend 1000's on stuff you don't need to go quick but people will tell you is essential .

PS ...did i see you in Dorking on friday lesh ?

 

[Bryant1998]

Cheers for the replies lads,

I don’t plan on doing any track days anytime soon but I’ve got some pretty nice roads my way, as @leshkin said the stock handling isn’t great, my fwd a3 on coilovers handled better, much smoother and more stable with high speed cornering.

I’ve got quattro tech (revo dealer) quite close to me so think I’ll go and have a chat with them after payday and see what they recommend etc.

@paddy is your downpipe a turbo-back or cat-back? I’m really keen on getting a nice turbo-back downpipe and fabricating the 8v backbox to give mine the quad pipes, I just think they look amazing, I think as an s3 it deserves them too

@ch1z64 how much did the brembos set you back? Cheers for the link will check them out

Also I’ve heard the RS3 8P brakes are bigger than the S3 8P and are basically a Bolt on, does anyone know about that? I’ve seen adaptor kits to fit the R8 carbon ceramics but unless I get a significant pay rise that won’t ever be happening

 

[paddy]

My down pipe includes a 200 cell cat which is minimum for an MOT and does not offer a restriction. There used to be someone doing 4 pipe conversions for 8p's, probably still is ?
Personally the 4 pipes and the pop up nav screen are the two main reasons why i will never own an 8V

 

[prt57]

My down pipe includes a 200 cell cat which is minimum for an MOT and does not offer a restriction. There used to be someone doing 4 pipe conversions for 8p's, probably still is ?
Personally the 4 pipes and the pop up nav screen are the two main reasons why i will never own an 8V

I have just ordered a BCS full system for my S3 and the 100 cell cat will pass the MOT. I don't think they do a 200 cell cat any longer. My APR downpipe and sports cat with very low miles will be sale afterwards

 

[paddy]

Bit of a backward move ? APR cast downpipe is the dogs. BCS is just a welded tube afair

 

[Charlie23]

I have just ordered a BCS full system for my S3 and the 100 cell cat will pass the MOT. I don't think they do a 200 cell cat any longer. My APR downpipe and sports cat with very low miles will be sale afterwards

How much mate??? Fellow member discount?? Haha

 

[prt57]

How much mate??? Fellow member discount?? Haha

If you say you are a member of this forum you will have a discount. 10% I think.

 

[prt57]

Bit of a backward move ? APR cast downpipe is the dogs. BCS is just a welded tube afair

Hmm, I know what you mean as the APR quality is excellent. However, BCS were unable make me a catback to fit on the end. I may be going hybrid turbo next year and so the full system is appropriate. I may also have the 90 mm downpipe to flexi option but I have not fully decided yet. I can sell the APR to recoup some of the cash.

 

[prt57]

How much mate??? Fellow member discount?? Haha

Just twigged, you mean the price of the APR downpipe. Don't know yet but it has not done many miles. Better idea when it is off!