S3 Revo stage 1 with Revo intake?

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Anyone on here running a stage 1 map with a Revo intake? Are the gains over a stock air box worth it? As having Revo stage 1 put on car Saturday and they recommended a Revo intake as the stock air box is restrictive?
 
The original box is restrictive.
I'm pretty certain there are gains, but couldn't quote you figures.

I have the revo intake and im very happy with it.
 
Stock air box becomes a problem at around Stg2 so is worth doing in any case.
 
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Iv got a Revo intake going on tomorrow then Revo stage 1 map going on car Saturday.
 
Iv got a Revo intake going on tomorrow then Revo stage 1 map going on car Saturday.
 
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Ive got a revo intake and running a custom map.. 318bhp and 350 ft/lb's torque.. Im
Not sure how much difference power wise it makes over a standard air box but i was told by rick @unicorn it does help get rid of the restrictiveness over the standand air box, also makes a great sound, now and again i get turbo chatter which ive heard can be bad for the turbo but it puts a smile on my face so im not that worried
 
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I really need to get mine on a rolling road as Ive been told it's been mapped but have no proof.

I'll be gutted on one hand if it hasn't but on the other I'll be happy as I think it's pretty quick now but potentially it could be even quicker with just a stage 1 map - I already have a Revo Induction Kit. 318bhp is a healthy figure ^ especially for very little cost/work involved :)
 
I was slightly dissapointed cause i found out mine had already been mapped however even though i only gained 25bhp i gained **** loads more torque and now it pulls hard all the way to 7,000 where as before it seemed to die off after 5,500.. However now im at stage 1 i cant see myself stopping til im stage 2+
 
I'll let u all no how I get on tomorrow when it goes on the dyno after the stage 1 Revo map. I'm hoping for at least 310bhp
 
Well tbh, I'm aiming/slowly buying parts just to go straight to stage 2+

(Regardless whether I'm currently at stage 1 or not now)
 
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JamesMadog said:
I was slightly dissapointed cause i found out mine had already been mapped however even though i only gained 25bhp i gained **** loads more torque and now it pulls hard all the way to 7,000 where as before it seemed to die off after 5,500.. However now im at stage 1 i cant see myself stopping til im stage 2+
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I'd trade torque over bhp any day.
It makes a huge difference to the way the car drives,and adds so much more mid-range.

The K04 starts to run out of puff at high rpm in any case,and the torque is what you need.

Craig-P said:
Well tbh, I'm aiming/slowly buying parts just to go straight to stage 2+

(Regardless whether I'm currently at stage 1 or not now)
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Good move...all of the parts you get along the way are needed for Stg2+,so nothing is wasted.
 
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Talking Revo software and intake results, this is well worth a read, not a low mileage fresh example either -

https://www.vwheritage.com/blog/2015/03/12/revo-test-2005-mk5-golf-gti-dyno/

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2.0TFSi K03 results -

Peak BHP Peak Torque
Stock 213 245
Stock (+ Revo Intake) 223 270
Stage 2 258 315
Stage 2 (+ Revo Intake) 278 350

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When hoping for figures, yes of course Revo makes the numbers, however remember it's not just the peak numbers that are important, it's about how the car performs and drives on the road, that mid range power delivery. You could have a car running a lower peak figure, but actually be far quicker on the road in the real world, hence we urge dealers to set cars up on the road, rather than chasing numbers.
More about peak figures here if you've not read this before - http://www.revotechnik.com/support/technical/peak-power-figures-explained
 
I agree, Figures a lot of the time is just something to talk about down the pub.

It's how the car drive's, act's, performs on the road is what matters.
 
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I am planning to get mine mapped next week but not sure who to go to.... AMD, DMS or at unicorn?
DMS have said I'll get around 320bhp 310lbs.
AMD have said I'll get around 310bhp and 310lbs.
I haven't spoken to unicorn or revo yet, who would everyone recommend to go to
 
Revo is the most developed software of the VAG market, we've specialised in VAG for over 15 years now & do months of R&D on track & road around the world to ensure your car performs at its optimum, whatever the conditions. We don't chase figures nor do we produce a product that pushes the car too hard, resulting in heat soak or issues. Revo is the perfect balance of performance & driveability whilst maintaining reliability. We have four MQB 2.0TSi's at the Daventry HQ alone, all ongoing development cars in various stages from Stage 2 to our 450BHP+ 7R that is often spotted on track in hands of the media.

As above, don't fall into the figure chasing trap, as peak numbers do not reflect either how well a car will drive or performan or how long it will maintain power, this is again why we develop in the real world on track & road. No point having an extra 10bhp peak, losing 20bhp in mid-range or having power that cannot be maintained. Revo power figures all peak at what they do for very good reason.

For more details, give your local Revo dealer a call - http://www.revotechnik.com/dealer-locator

Revo are so confident that we offer the best product on the market that we even offer a 30 day money back guarantee, can't get any fairer than that. Get it Revo'd & enjoy!
 
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Zakir883 said:
I am planning to get mine mapped next week but not sure who to go to.... AMD, DMS or at unicorn?
DMS have said I'll get around 320bhp 310lbs.
AMD have said I'll get around 310bhp and 310lbs.
I haven't spoken to unicorn or revo yet, who would everyone recommend to go to
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All of the major software companies will give you a reliable product with good results.
Independents such as Unicorn can give you an individual setup tailored to you and Rick has very good feedback from here.

I've used Revo software previously before moving to a different ECU and software platform and had no issues.

AMDTuning have both their own maps and also APRs so they can offer a choice and worth saying they built the engine in my car.

See my build thread if you want an example of what they and Storm Developments can do.
 
My revo dsg map is holding back my torque not letting it make more than 297ft lb. thinking of moving to Apr


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When I got my revo stage 1 I had a intake kit on it, Was pretty quick and when I put the old airbox on with the stage 1 my god it was super slow. Best getting the revo stage 1 with a nice intake to make it worth the monies :p
 
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Revo Steve-W said:
Revo is the most developed software of the VAG market, we've specialised in VAG for over 15 years now & do months of R&D on track & road around the world to ensure your car performs at its optimum, whatever the conditions. We don't chase figures nor do we produce a product that pushes the car too hard, resulting in heat soak or issues. Revo is the perfect balance of performance & driveability whilst maintaining reliability. We have four MQB 2.0TSi's at the Daventry HQ alone, all ongoing development cars in various stages from Stage 2 to our 450BHP+ 7R that is often spotted on track in hands of the media.

As above, don't fall into the figure chasing trap, as peak numbers do not reflect either how well a car will drive or performan or how long it will maintain power, this is again why we develop in the real world on track & road. No point having an extra 10bhp peak, losing 20bhp in mid-range or having power that cannot be maintained. Revo power figures all peak at what they do for very good reason.

For more details, give your local Revo dealer a call - http://www.revotechnik.com/dealer-locator

Revo are so confident that we offer the best product on the market that we even offer a 30 day money back guarantee, can't get any fairer than that. Get it Revo'd & enjoy!
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I have had revo in the past and I will not be going back to it as when it was on the car the place that installed it out it on to stage 4 setting for boost and timing and I wanted stage 1 for it and had to take it else were to have it sorted out so in my eyes you just let any idiot mess about with cars and could be very costly.
 
s3joe said:
I have had revo in the past and I will not be going back to it as when it was on the car the place that installed it out it on to stage 4 setting for boost and timing and I wanted stage 1 for it and had to take it else were to have it sorted out so in my eyes you just let any idiot mess about with cars and could be very costly.
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I'd say that's a rogue tuner there,and not in any sense Revo's fault.

Are you saying they loaded Stg4 software?
 
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S3Alex said:
I'd say that's a rogue tuner there,and not in any sense Revo's fault.

Are you saying they loaded Stg4 software?
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no stage 1 software but you can change the boost timing and ignition setting on it and when it went to get looked at they rang revo and told them what settings were on it they said they were sg 4
 
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JamesMadog said:
I was slightly dissapointed cause i found out mine had already been mapped however even though i only gained 25bhp i gained **** loads more torque and now it pulls hard all the way to 7,000 where as before it seemed to die off after 5,500.. However now im at stage 1 i cant see myself stopping til im stage 2+
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I made exactly the same figures with a live custom map
 
I went a full live custom map, although not huge in the audi scene he works on uk time attack cars and has nothing but epic results and very happy customers, i pulled great figures and a car that drives stunning, can't believe how much it changed just after a map, roll on big turbo build
 
s3joe said:
no stage 1 software but you can change the boost timing and ignition setting on it and when it went to get looked at they rang revo and told them what settings were on it they said they were sg 4
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That's just down to a tuner that isn't very good.

I've used their software before moving to a totally different platform and had no problems at all.
 
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s3joe said:
I have had revo in the past and I will not be going back to it as when it was on the car the place that installed it out it on to stage 4 setting for boost and timing and I wanted stage 1 for it and had to take it else were to have it sorted out so in my eyes you just let any idiot mess about with cars and could be very costly.
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All the software files are completely separate files for the stages, there is no such thing as having stage 4 settings on stage 1 software, as Alex above & others with echo. I'm sorry you've had a poor experience, however again as Alex said this will not be down to either Revo software or Revo as a company. You may even find it was a dealer we inherited from old who are no longer with us, we have had a huge clear out over the passed years and have a dealer network which we are now proud of. Find yours here - http://www.revotechnik.com/dealer-locator
 
To add, the settings are fully adjustable by yourself at home too with your SPS switch, so should of been able to adjust to your hearts content. Sounds like an unfortunate lack of product explanation/understanding. I'd be confident that your next experience would be very difference and we even offer a 30 day money back guarantee if you're not 100% confident.
 
At stage 2 I would expect it to be a lot more than 297ft lb. my torque standard was 275ft lb. so for all the money I have paid for revo mapping stage 1&2 I have gained 22ft lb. Iv read a few cases where Revos dsg software is holding the torque back on later s3's, people have changed software and instantly gained anywhere from 380-410ft lb.


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TommyH88 said:
At stage 2 I would expect it to be a lot more than 297ft lb. my torque standard was 275ft lb. so for all the money I have paid for revo mapping stage 1&2 I have gained 22ft lb. Iv read a few cases where Revos dsg software is holding the torque back on later s3's, people have changed software and instantly gained anywhere from 380-410ft lb.


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Hi Tommy, this doesn't make sense and so will drop you a PM for more details, as Revo will more than match anything else on the market for performance, but need to know what has actually been done to your S3. Alternatively feel free to drop an email to the office - eurosupport@revotechnik.com

Cheers, Steve
 
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Revo Steve you have been very helpful here and I hope you can put Tommy straight,it is great that you care as much as you do.
 
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It's just a disappointment tbh. I no it's all a dyno lottery, but everything has always been done on the same dyno, As let's face it revo maps are not cheap. And to have issues with the figures and how the car drives is a annoyance.


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Thanks Ollie and yes I have responded to Tommy.

Something I have highlighted without going into lengthy details (hence talking conversation off line) being as quoted from our website-

(http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/software/audi/s3/123/stage-2)

Stage 2 software details for your AUDI, S3, 2.0 TFSI-Turbo K04 (265ps)

Stage 2 Performance Software has been specifically developed to attain the best possible performance from the 2.0TFSI K04 with a bolt on performance exhaust and quality cold air intake. Stage 2 software is boost, fuelling and timing adjustable with slightly more flexibility than Stage 1 allowing the vehicle to be setup to suit the fuel quality, driving conditions and driver preferences. 2.0TFSI K04 Stage 2 software is specifically tuned to suit the limitations of the standard high pressure fuel pump limiting the mid-range and giving a fantastic linear power delivery.

So long and short being that Stage 2+ is the place to be with these 2.0TFSi's.
Dyno figures I personally don't care for (please don't take that the wrong way), it's how a car drives and dyno figures can vary depending on so many factors, climate/time of year, load settings, Revo settings etc etc...

I'm sure many on this forum can echo just how strong a Stage 2+ Revo'd 2.0TFSi set up correctly will be.
 
Revo Steve-W said:
Thanks Ollie and yes I have responded to Tommy.

Something I have highlighted without going into lengthy details (hence talking conversation off line) being as quoted from our website-

(http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/software/audi/s3/123/stage-2)

Stage 2 software details for your AUDI, S3, 2.0 TFSI-Turbo K04 (265ps)

Stage 2 Performance Software has been specifically developed to attain the best possible performance from the 2.0TFSI K04 with a bolt on performance exhaust and quality cold air intake. Stage 2 software is boost, fuelling and timing adjustable with slightly more flexibility than Stage 1 allowing the vehicle to be setup to suit the fuel quality, driving conditions and driver preferences. 2.0TFSI K04 Stage 2 software is specifically tuned to suit the limitations of the standard high pressure fuel pump limiting the mid-range and giving a fantastic linear power delivery.

So long and short being that Stage 2+ is the place to be with these 2.0TFSi's.
Dyno figures I personally don't care for (please don't take that the wrong way), it's how a car drives and dyno figures can vary depending on so many factors, climate/time of year, load settings, Revo settings etc etc...

I'm sure many on this forum can echo just how strong a Stage 2+ Revo'd 2.0TFSi set up correctly will be.
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I was/am happy with my Revo stage 2+ with DSG stage 1 map

 
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