I enjoy reading this
I hadn't actually planned on driving an RS3 but i was in the dealers having a coffee and i was offered a play in it so it would have been rude not to.
If/when they release an RS3 Saloon I'll most likely get one as the Saloon body with slightly wider arches and 5 cylinder engine would be sweet. I know it's not technically miles better than my S3 Saloon but I'd still pay the extra because it's a car I'd love to own.
For me, looks and sound are more important than outright lap times as 99% of my miles are just cruising about.
Yes I want a quick car but in reality once you get to silly speeds in these level of cars it's more about how much bottle/ability you've got and you could quite easily leave behind someone in a so called 'better handling' car if you're happy to push it more than them. Handling differences that costs tenths are nothing compared people's driving ability which has MUCH larger differences and just because someone has a fast car doesn't mean they know how to use it.
So, with most things in life it involves comprises and there's many great handling cars I wouldn't buy purely because either I or the wife think they're ugly, inside or outside. The S3 ticks the most boxes for me and the RS3 Saloon would tick more.
Luckily, if the car doesn't 'click' just buy something else, there's a massive choice out there. One persons 'under steer issue' is another persons 'makes no difference'.
Going back to the original question, I wouldn't move to the current RS3 purely because of looks but I do love the sound.
Same for me C2 DTN but I came back amazed and physically shaking at what the RS3 did with ease over and above what my S3 would do and oh how I loved that car but 2-days later we'd found and purchased and still have one of the first RS3s available here in the UK.
I respectfully suggest you go back and have another go but forget the s-tronic and paddle-shift-it UP and DOWN (the downshifts are activated automatically even in manual-mode but don't do that) and then compare that to a left-leg flailing manual gearbox.
I know where your going with this, and as i said the s-tronic is a good system, and will be faster than a manual.
but your comment of "left leg flailing manual gearbox" make it pointless discussing it. Theres something about a manual, you either get it, or you don't. i don't care if my manual s3 will be slower because its a manual, i just find it more involving and rewarding, and that is my choice.
I do agree, I also have a manual gearbox car and love it for what it is but as you rightly say - but different - I just find the DSG in manual mode more involving and rewarding and as I've found on the road by the time the person alongside has dumped the clutch for the 2nd or 3rd time we've tapped the paddles and gone... Love it!
Had 37-years of manual gearbox practice in this:
And loved that too - an it still comes back for TLC
.......good gawd, are you bunch of old fannies still at it?
"Fannies" now thats a word the American member is gonna misinterpret .
I thought Simon's post was funny. It's a shame that you have to get
so low to knock another country.
Never knocked a country ,twisting words comes to mind
You wrote the words. You said what you said.
You are the one who always demeans people.
I don't have to bully people.
I know what i said and wrote and its there for everyone to see ,I've put them all together so you can see that i NEVER knocked a country so please don't accuse me of writing something i DID NOT write.
Op has spoken, so open it stays @Pulp84Notwithstanding the emotional element to some posts, I still would like to hear other S3 owners thoughts when they final they get to drive an RS3.
So keep it open
Quite a few too choose from @Rob2k68Narrowly avoided a manual v s-tronic diversion there - wonder where it's headed next ?
good call BH,entertaining,not nasty,good thread!
But will it be worth the premium over the S3