Rs3 phone box lite

Keano04

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So the Launch Edition is supposed to have phone box lite as part of its spec and when I purchased it was included.

However there are issues with parts we are all too familiar with that means spec may differ with one element being the wireless charging aspect may be dropped from the spec….

My dealer cannot tell me whether my car has been affected by this at this point. He simply doesn’t know from the info Audi are providing to him as he said he needs to check the vin on the system to confirm - he previously said he had checked my vin and it wasn’t affected, but that’s another story……..

I have already outlined that if the spec differs from what I purchased I want a discount as compensation. They have agreed but weren’t sure how much and were awaiting feedback from Audi.

Yesterday the dealer outlined £150 was the cost to add the option of wireless charging… so that was likely going to be what was offered.

Is that really the cost of the option?

Can you really just add phone box lite wireless charging for £150, normally?

Any help with evidence to prove (if it can be) that they actually owe me more compensation would be appreciated.

I deferred confirming compensation until we knew for sure whether it had been dropped off the spec, but I didn’t want to sign up to £150 as that seemed far too low - I would have thought everyone would add it to their spec if it literally is just a £150 option!!!??!

You guys know the configurator and Audi stuff so much better than me so all help appreciated.
 

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Its probably prewired in most cars & thus its just the unit price, its cheaper to spec on a new car for obvious reasons, fitting aftermarket will be twice that or more with labour etc from an installer, so yes you'll only get the brochure addin cost refunded.
 

CarterRS

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Is it really worth complaining for? For such a small add on? Audi cannot help this situation Just like the rest of the manufacturers can't.

With such a long waiting list for these cars audi could say take it or leave it..

It's not as if they have replace the engine with a 4 pot.
 

Keano04

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Its probably prewired in most cars & thus its just the unit price, its cheaper to spec on a new car for obvious reasons, fitting aftermarket will be twice that or more with labour etc from an installer, so yes you'll only get the brochure addin cost refunded.

Not clear how much that add in price is at the moment.
 

Keano04

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Is it really worth complaining for? For such a small add on? Audi cannot help this situation Just like the rest of the manufacturers can't.

With such a long waiting list for these cars audi could say take it or leave it..

It's not as if they have replace the engine with a 4 pot.

Yes it’s worth complaining for. If I’m paying for something I want to have that thing.

They are a business and I’m not a charity and that works both ways.
 

CarterRS

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Yes it’s worth complaining for. If I’m paying for something I want to have that thing.

They are a business and I’m not a charity and that works both ways.
Each to there own and all that.

I suppose it depends on how much its important to you and how much time you have on your hands to complain and seek compensation for a little add on which they have no control over at present.
 

Daggerit

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I don't know if I'd complain about it, but if it was advertised as being included when I placed my order and was then removed I would be expecting the price to drop otherwise I'm being charged for something I'm not receiving. That would be the extent of it though.

That being said, I am a little annoyed that it's not included anymore because with the wireless Carplay it meant that you could keep it charged without ever plugging it in. Now, regardless of the wireless connection I'll have to plug it in if it's a longer journey. It's not the end of the world but it feels like a step back after the introduction of the decent wireless connection, I understand it's not exactly Audi's decision though.
 

Ludus

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Some important things to note regarding the phone box is it it comes with many features than just the wireless charging. You get additional colour-changing ambient lighting in the cubby hole, without it's just a solid white light. The phone box also uses the car's antenna to connect to your phone and boost the signal, most importantly it unlocks additional MMI features meaning you can have 2 phones connected simultaneously. An example of this is my partner would have their phone connected to the MMI streaming music but I can still take calls, scroll through messages etc from my phone on both the MMI and virtual cockpit and vice versa. This is NOT possible without the phone box and you will only be able to have one phone connected to the vehicle.

£150 is well worth the money for what you get, I was lucky in that my build was unaffected and fortunately came with it as ordered, however people who aren't getting it are just being offered their £150 back which I personally think is ridiculous and wouldn't accept myself.
 

Doja cat

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Not sure if I can see it on my order, what would I be looking for option/code wise?
 

Ludus

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Keano04

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I don't know if I'd complain about it, but if it was advertised as being included when I placed my order and was then removed I would be expecting the price to drop otherwise I'm being charged for something I'm not receiving. That would be the extent of it though.

That’s exactly it and what I have in my mind.

My issue is - is it really just £150 to add it?

It seems such a useful part I find it odd that it would only be £150, plus it’s usually bundled in with other stuff into a “pack” so ends up costing loads more…

I was wanting know the “true” cost of me adding it so I can request that… I am assuming it’s more than £150 but I don’t actually know as it doesn’t appear afaik?
 

Daggerit

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That’s exactly it and what I have in my mind.

My issue is - is it really just £150 to add it?

It seems such a useful part I find it odd that it would only be £150, plus it’s usually bundled in with other stuff into a “pack” so ends up costing loads more…

I was wanting know the “true” cost of me adding it so I can request that… I am assuming it’s more than £150 but I don’t actually know as it doesn’t appear afaik?

Not sure, but I did read that there’s more than just the phone charger for your £150. I can’t remember all of it but it would definitely be more than £150 to retrofit!


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Some important things to note regarding the phone box is it it comes with many features than just the wireless charging. You get additional colour-changing ambient lighting in the cubby hole, without it's just a solid white light. The phone box also uses the car's antenna to connect to your phone and boost the signal, most importantly it unlocks additional MMI features meaning you can have 2 phones connected simultaneously. An example of this is my partner would have their phone connected to the MMI streaming music but I can still take calls, scroll through messages etc from my phone on both the MMI and virtual cockpit and vice versa. This is NOT possible without the phone box and you will only be able to have one phone connected to the vehicle.

£150 is well worth the money for what you get, I was lucky in that my build was unaffected and fortunately came with it as ordered, however people who aren't getting it are just being offered their £150 back which I personally think is ridiculous and wouldn't accept myself.

Hey bro small correction, in the UK we only get the Light version of the Phone Box which has no antenna connection at all - simply a charger nothing else hence the presumably cheap price.

The full Phone Box is omitted from A3s in the UK for some obscure reason.

Big pet peeve of mine tbh with that being said I’d still rather have the light phone box than none at all.

You can also get it retrofitted relatively easily because of this, wondering if Audi UK would do an official one so it gets added to the config for the VIN of the car otherwise it would have to be recoded every time the car has a software update.

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Daggerit

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Looks like they've removed the 360 camera option as well now for Vorsprung......£500.00 reduction on list price to reflect.

Came in a bit late on this one, I think we’ve been discussing that for the last couple weeks already in the other thread.


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Garrett 69

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Is it REALLY necessary to be able to check emails and messages while you are driving? Apart from anything else, even "hands free", isn't that illegal?

There's too much technology in cars these days. All I need is a Bluetooth connection and a decent sound system, the rest is not necessary in the slightest. Even this TC, ABS, etc. is a waste of money, it just makes cars easier for idiots to drive.

Just my 2p......
 

Daggerit

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Is it REALLY necessary to be able to check emails and messages while you are driving? Apart from anything else, even "hands free", isn't that illegal?

There's too much technology in cars these days. All I need is a Bluetooth connection and a decent sound system, the rest is not necessary in the slightest. Even this TC, ABS, etc. is a waste of money, it just makes cars easier for idiots to drive.

Just my 2p......
I think you're missing the point of the phonebox lite?

If you use your phone to connect wirelessly and use Apple Carplay or something, you will kill your phone if you're going a good distance. So then your choice is to plug it in or let it die, if plugging it in then it completely defeats the point of having the wireless convenience. With the phone box you can still connect wirelessly and just throw your phone on the pad to keep it charged while using it. I'm not sure where the email stuff you're talking about is in all this?
 

Garrett 69

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I think you're missing the point of the phonebox lite?

If you use your phone to connect wirelessly and use Apple Carplay or something, you will kill your phone if you're going a good distance. So then your choice is to plug it in or let it die, if plugging it in then it completely defeats the point of having the wireless convenience. With the phone box you can still connect wirelessly and just throw your phone on the pad to keep it charged while using it. I'm not sure where the email stuff you're talking about is in all this?
Check Ludus' post regarding messages etc. when having 2 phones connected. Reading text messages/emails while driving is illegal.

In any case, Bluetooth does all you need for hands free/streaming. Where is the hardship in plugging in a usb to keep the phone charged? Not everyone has a phone with wireless charging capability.

Wireless charging is dubious anyway due to the magnetism around the battery increasing battery temperature.
 

Daggerit

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Check Ludus' post regarding messages etc. when having 2 phones connected. Reading text messages/emails while driving is illegal.

In any case, Bluetooth does all you need for hands free/streaming. Where is the hardship in plugging in a usb to keep the phone charged? Not everyone has a phone with wireless charging capability.

Wireless charging is dubious anyway due to the magnetism around the battery increasing battery temperature.
I agree that reading messages and emails while driving is illegal, and while I've not had the phone box in previous cars, I find it a bit strange that it would allow for additional features that would be illegal to use? In previous Audis they haven't allowed me to read anything from my phone whilst driving (or stationary) and also don't allow for video or anything either from factory. So this seems a bit weird to me.

I already said that Bluetooth does what I want for streaming, and will let me use Carplay too, but my point is that it's a complete mis-match of technology. Having the ability to use wireless connection for something as power hungry as Carplay / Android Auto but without the function to keep the device charged without plugging it in, so they might as well not bother with the additional wireless features.

Wireless charging doesn't damage or excessively heat the battery if you're not using cheap technology, which I'd imagine Audi wouldn't. My phone didn't warm up at all during the few hours I was testing a VW ID.4 a few weeks ago, and it was very convenient to get in and just chuck the phone on the pad without having to worry about plugging it in.
 

Keano04

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Check Ludus' post regarding messages etc. when having 2 phones connected. Reading text messages/emails while driving is illegal.

In any case, Bluetooth does all you need for hands free/streaming. Where is the hardship in plugging in a usb to keep the phone charged? Not everyone has a phone with wireless charging capability.

Wireless charging is dubious anyway due to the magnetism around the battery increasing battery temperature.

Must admit I thought apple car play read them for you through Siri in any case…?

It has been around 3 months since I had a car with that feature now though.

The “hardship” is it makes the car cluttered and messy. Not good for ones ocd
 

Daggerit

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Must admit I thought apple car play read them for you through Siri in any case…?

It has been around 3 months since I had a car with that feature now though.

The “hardship” is it makes the car cluttered and messy. Not good for ones ocd

You can have them read out, but I’ve never seen a feature for actually reading through them as text? Which to me would be the only illegal bit he’s talking about.


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Garrett 69

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I haven't got a clue about iPhones, I've never owned one and never will.
 

Daggerit

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I haven't got a clue about iPhones, I've never owned one and never will.

So does android auto allow you to actually read messages and emails while driving?


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Garrett 69

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So does android auto allow you to actually read messages and emails while driving?


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It does in the work van (Vauxhall/Peugeot/Citroen Vivaro junk). I only installed Android Auto to use mirror link for Google Maps. It didn't work properly but text messages flashed up on the screen before I had uninstalled AA again.
 

Daggerit

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It does in the work van (Vauxhall/Peugeot/Citroen Vivaro junk). I only installed Android Auto to use mirror link for Google Maps. It didn't work properly but text messages flashed up on the screen before I had uninstalled AA again.
Sounds like an unsafe feature of AA rather than the car to be honest. You don't get that with Apple Carplay, it won't let you read messages on the screen which I think is a much better system.
 
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