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Rs1 Jun 14, 2018

  1. Rs1

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    Thinking of getting stage 1 tune by Revo for facelift RS3 believe out now in UK..Expected gains 450 to 480hp...thoughts please...
     
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  3. evil_scooby

    evil_scooby Active Member

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    450 seems low?

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  4. Dan_DJT

    Dan_DJT RS3 Saloon Team Floret Silver Audi RS3

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  5. penetrator

    penetrator Well-Known Member

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    I’m booked in this morning for it
     
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  6. penetrator

    penetrator Well-Known Member

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    Not about headline figures mate, that’s where an average tuner and an established renowned tuner differ!
     
  7. DW81

    DW81 Well-Known Member

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    But the torque gains are massive on just this stage one tune though ain’t they folks?
     
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  8. penetrator

    penetrator Well-Known Member

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    Just under 600nm it seems
     
  9. terminator x

    terminator x Well-Known Member Team Nardo Audi RS4

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    Imho Audi are holding it back as torque is just about the only advantage a standard RS4 has over a standard 3 :tearsofjoy:

    TX.
     
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  10. Callump01

    Callump01 Active Member Team Nardo Audi RS3 quattro Saloon

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    That torque is just ridiculous, love it!

    I'm still umming and arring over getting mine done... just weighing up if I can afford to fit the bill should something major go wrong in the future. Hoping to get a ride in a remapped RS3 shortly and I'm sure that'll make my mind up.

    They've removed the RS3 2017> option from their website, so I am assuming that they're in the process of adding it there?
     
  11. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    A mapped RS3 is just in a whole different performance category. Beware going out in one as you will have to get yours done once you experience it!
     
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  13. DW81

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    Doc is it really that noticeable and savage mate?
    The standard PFL can be quite an animal at the moment :tearsofjoy:
     
  14. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    Absolutely. It feels significantly more powerful. I had it put back to stock when trading it in and it felt like the handbrake had been left on and was very ordinary thereafter.
     
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  15. penetrator

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    Just gat my Revo stage1 and it’s beyond savage lol, I can’t stop laughing. It is ridiculously quick and I am so happy I made the choice, there isn’t going to much about under £200k plus that will live with this level of savagery lol
     
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  16. FBF01

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    Take it no dyno before and after?

    So so keen...
     
  17. penetrator

    penetrator Well-Known Member

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    Dyno is booked for next Tuesday.
     
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  18. Callump01

    Callump01 Active Member Team Nardo Audi RS3 quattro Saloon

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    Dreaded TD1 flag is the only thing holding me back from getting it done... do we know if Audi are guaranteed to TD1 it if I flash back to stock before I take it back in every time? Or is it just a small chance if they specifically look for it?
     
  19. JamesCrs3

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    If anyone around Birmingham wants to see what MRC stage 2 is like feel free to hit me up.
     
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  20. Behind The Bins

    Behind The Bins Active Member

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    All this stage 1 talk is tempting me
     
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  21. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    Couple of questions @penetrator

    I notice on the Revo site it says rev limiter increased to 7100rpm. And also that in sport mode the cars valves are now fully and permanently open. Can you confirm these points?

    Also, do Revo still offer the option of you being able to plug in to the OBD port yourself and switch back to stock?
     
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  22. dc911

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    Or do you have the changeable maps too
     
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  23. neg

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    Watching with interest...


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  24. FBF01

    FBF01 Well-Known Member

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    on Revos insta...

    Says 599 and anywhere from 455 to 490 from stage 1, with an increase in torque from 439 to 464lbft

    Also makes reference to the SPS switch for high and low boost option

    Meeting revo dealer tomorrow at 11am for a chat....could be expensive lol
     
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  25. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    Revo very competitive on price. Bear in mind MRC and the like insist on a DSG map so it's £1000+ all in for stage 1. I'm personally not keen on them faffing with the gearbox as I think that's where the big expense could come from with potential issues later down the line, and I reckon they just increase clamping pressures anyway which I also don't think is necessary for stage 1. In addition, the gearbox also has sensors and logs which Audi could no doubt see that it has been messed around with.
     
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  26. penetrator

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    Rev limiter is increased to 7100rpm
    Left foot braking enabled
    Optimised launch control (savage lol)
    De limited

    Yes you can switch the maps back to stock if you have the Revo module, think it’s £99.

    The car is slightly louder more of the time and seems to be more burbles and pops and bangs so it’s possible the valves are open permanently in dynamic.
     
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  27. penetrator

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    I think there’s always the risk, but I’ve tuned my last few cars M4, M3 etc and so far no issues. I think if there’s scope for them to be looking for an issue they could possibly find something but for most dealer visits and software updates there’s no reason to snoop about and or plug into the Matrix lol.
    Or I could be wrong. Hopefully not.
     
  28. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    Thanks for the info. Plans are in motion for me to perhaps get this done.

    It sounds like Revo's map is as good as most and worthwhile.
     
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  29. Behind The Bins

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    Anyone know how is APR stage 1 is available on FL? Its a bit unclear from their website. Also do they insist on DSG remapping?
    Like the ability to switch, ok its not the original map but same output
     
  30. Seanix

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    APR tune for the FL isn't released yet.

    Dsg tune is not required for stage 1.





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  31. FBF01

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    Released next week. Yet again, on their insta. Dyno showing something over 500bhp. Crazy
     
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  32. neg

    neg Active Member

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    On a slight curve ball has anyone noticed Racingline has now released their Stage1 tune too.


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  34. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    If APR are getting over 500bhp from just a map, I would question how safe it is given that Revo, MRC and some of the other reputable VAG tuners are only getting 470-480?

    Are APR just chasing the headline number? Is it safe? Or have they really worked out a way to extract an extra 30bhp from software?
     
  35. FBF01

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    Couldn’t agree more, why I will be going Revo. Hopefully waiting till the offer some discount, such as the Black Friday for the 20% discount. Even 10% I’d be happy with!

    Read my ECU and Revo don’t have a file yet for it, so would take 3 days he said. Maybe bit too soon for me. Insurance only wanted an extra 100 for the map, now until November which I didn’t think was bad, 26 quid of that was their admin fee
     
  36. Boosta

    Boosta Member Team Daytona Audi RS3 Sportback

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    I was told yesterday that the they can remove the td1 flag from the ecu now during the remap, just waiting on email from the programmer to confirm
     
  37. T-800

    T-800 Well-Known Member Team Glacier TFSI Owners Group VCDS Map User Audi RS3 quattro Sportback S tronic MQB Platform

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    The TD1 flag isn’t ‘in’ the ECU.
     
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  38. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    Can you expand on that @T-800
     
  39. Leo-RS

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    From a trusted source, the delta gain is over 100hp on the Stage 1 APR tune with 93 (98 UK). They have reverse engineered the ECU and worked on the car extensively for the last 12 months. I remember reading that they fitted a load of sensors that Audi had used in development and then removed again for production and this is where they apparently get the better gains from.

    The graph that they are showing on Instagram and FB displays around 530whp which equates to around 580bhp. This is simply a Stage 1 on their E85 map. Taken from the car that run the 10.55 1/4m back in October 2017.

    Stage 2 on E85 presumably then has to break 600hp.

    Tune details should be released Monday afternoon / evening in the U.K.
     
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  40. evil_scooby

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    Exciting times :)


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  41. D0C

    D0C Well-Known Member Team Nardo Team Panther Audi RS3 TTRS

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    So we are saying that APR really is the tune to go for?

    If this is the case, their numbers for stage 1 are exceeding stage 2 from elsewhere. Seems a no brainier.
     
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  42. Leo-RS

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    I think so Doc yes. They’ve had it in house and been testing it for a year so you can’t fault their R&D with the engine. Saying that, so have Revo and they are promoting upto 90hp gains by the looks of things.

    However, APR do have a tendency to go OTT with marketing and promotion. That 10.55 file for example was from a test car, is it really going to be the same for production cars? Do they knock it back down to 90% for the market in order to make it more reliable. Will anyone manage to extract the same dyno and drag strip figures?

    Keeping an open mind until I see some independent tests. That and it’s a right ball ache and expensive to get E85 in the U.K.

    £131 for a 25l drum of E85 and with a higher consumption rate to that of SUL then a trip to the dragstrip to prove these times is going to be pretty expensive.
     
  43. JamesCrs3

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    Be happy to race any APR / Revo cars down santapod with my MRC stage 2 if anyone is up for it let me know.
     
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