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Remap options for A4 272 Quattro?

DonnyWade Nov 11, 2019

  1. syed123

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    U will surely upset a lot of cars.

    I did with just the tdi box on!
     
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  3. DonnyWade

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    Yes...I certainly was impressed. It now just feels like there's a huge hand on your back shoving you down the road. I had a brief play with a Jag F-Type V6 on the way home and there was basically no competition. It seemed like the Jag was all noise and no go, I outstripped him easily.
    Nice! Do you mean an SQ7?
     
  4. syed123

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    Yeah, the torque on the v6 tdi means u can keep up with loads of cars with similar power but less torque figures.

    No it wasn't even the sq7, it's the s7 tdi which uses the same v6 from the 272 but with the mild hybrid and other new tech.

    It really won me over and will most likely upgrade it do it next.

    That should do 400bhp and 800nm comfortably too. Can imagine what the s4 feels like!
     
  5. DonnyWade

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    Ah yep sorry - I'll be after the S6 - need room for the family! Or maybe SQ5 ;)
     
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  6. syed123

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    Yeah, all 3 use the same engine and it's nice to have that familiarity when you drive it.

    I'd say in comfort the engine feels almost the same it's only when you put in dynamic where the fake noise does a good job of tricking you about what car your in.

    Sounded a lot like the American muscle car v8s when you gave it the beans. It actually made me smile for a diesel and was very characterful.

    You can also tell they've fiddled a lot with the internals to get those power figures. Overall it's feels like a much stronger engine stock compared with the 272 from factory.

    Where as the 272 makes a decent sound but it's quite refined. You just get a hum and a deep purring sound where as the s model amplifies that 10 fold and makes you feel like it's a v8
     
  7. Bishop187

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    Wow I didn’t think you could get that power from just a stage 1. Enjoy


    A7 3.0tdi 272 Black Edition Mythos Black Tech pack
     
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  8. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

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    Could it be a generous dyno !
     
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  9. Baj257

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    Your one looks completely different to mine. Mine was done in August at DMS [​IMG]
     
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  10. Ginge247

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    You sure your not running a sneaky hybrid turbo? ;)
    Plus all vags seem to make more power stock than quoted. My old b8 s4 made 358 bhp stock. Obviously readings vary on different RRs.
     
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  11. James.c

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    Is there different components between the 240hp models and 272?
    Ive just had a safe smoke free map in my 240 model I got 291hp 440lbft
    [​IMG]

    Does everyone keep dpfs in nowerdays?



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  13. DonnyWade

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    Can't wait to try it!
     
  14. DonnyWade

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    Nor did I until it happened ;)
     
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  15. DonnyWade

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    Interesting! Rob did say they do vary a lot from car to car, just depends on the health of the engine and how it's driven etc. Mine has done 58k miles now which he said would help, as it's fully loosened up, and I do a lot of motorway cruising.
     
  16. DonnyWade

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    I thought the only 2 options were 218 or 272? I may be wrong - unless yours is a TFSI?
    Taking out DPF is not recommended if your anywhere near needing an MOT....unless you are v friendly with the MOT guy!!
     
  17. DonnyWade

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    :) not that I know of!
     
  18. DonnyWade

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    It's meant to be all state of the art etc! To be fair I think with the work Rob does there he would need a good accurate one...
     
  19. Baj257

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    I phoned them up today, I’m popping in next week as I only live up the road from them. He said it could be down to temperature too, I had mine done in the summer and it was a hot day. Like you I’ve done 55k and 95% of my driving in that car is cruising down the motorway to work and back. You had a terraclean done or anything?
     
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  20. DonnyWade

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    Another nice little feature I found tonight - since the speed limiter has been removed, i can now set my cruise control all the way up to 199mph :) (Previously it only went up to 155.)
    Planning a trip to Germany soon, interested to see what we max out at ;)
     
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  21. DonnyWade

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    No nothing at all. The only other mod I've done is remove the centre silencer from the exhaust, this would improve airflow a bit, but it wouldn't make that much of a difference. I run it mainly on dirty diesel too - I don't often by premium stuff, too damn expensive!
     
  22. Baj257

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    Interesting, did removing the centre silencer bring any vibrations or noises into the cabin?
     
  23. DonnyWade

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    No, tbh I don't think it has made any difference at all as far as I can tell, not even any more V6 noise :( not that it would being a diesel.
     
  24. desertstorm

    desertstorm Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group TDi

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    You have to get rid of the DPF to get any meaningful noise from them. The DPF /Cat do a very good job of quietening the exhaust.
    Mines similar to this when I have the flap open in the bypass valve I have fitted.
     
  25. DonnyWade

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    Sounds interesting, does the bypass flap bypass the DPF then? And how do you get it through the MOT?
     
  26. desertstorm

    desertstorm Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group TDi

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    Bypass opens before the rear silencers. Car has no DPF or cat . It's a 2008 so strictly doesn't need a DPF . Passes the emission test no problem at 0.4 . The limit on my car is 3.0 as it's a June 2008 car. The marked limit on the VIN plate is 0.5 . With the DPF being at the back of the engine it's hard to see if it's there or not. On more modern cars just a few years old passing an MOT on the emissions without a DPF would be tricky .

    https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/karls-3-0-tdi-build-thread.204785/page-4#post-2179626
     
  27. Gazwould

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    I imagine some newer could be 0.30 .
     
  28. DonnyWade

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    Been reading through your build thread Karl, v interesting. In regards to the hidden menu on the MMI, I take it you need a diagnostics unit to get into this? (I know my MMI will be quite different from yours being a B9)
     
  29. cuke2u

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    Yes nothing really gained with the b9 'hidden' mmi menu
     
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  30. The Jargen

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    With the engine cover in place its slightly more difficult, but they can probably see the downpipe from underneath the car above the subframe.
     
  31. Baj257

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    Darkside developments have now got a 272 as a project car. Could be interesting, they got over 500bhp out of the B8 3.0 tdi.
     
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    I lied, its a 218bhp front wheel drive they purchased by accident.
     
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  34. The Jargen

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    The engine is the same. Just different mapping.
     
  35. DonnyWade

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    How did they manage that??
     
  36. DonnyWade

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    Yes, but it has a DSG box and not a ZF8....and who wants front wheel drive lol
     
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  37. Ginge247

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    Exactly . I had a front wheel drive one as a courtesy car and it just felt wrong, a bit like having sex with your socks on..

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  38. desertstorm

    desertstorm Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group TDi

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    I saw the 3.0 TDI B8 at the Performance German Day at Castle Combe. Spoke to them about the car as I had seen it out on track .It had melted the VVT mechanism on the turbo and they had changed the turbo. Ignoring things like EGT you can get bigger numbers and you will get away with it for a while. On track though with sustained high speeds you will get found out. Running the car with 150 degree oil temps as well not good for a long life reliable engine. Look at the video around 8.5 minutes.
    @bobby singh
     
  39. bobby singh

    bobby singh BSR Gold Supporter VCDS Map User quattro Audi A4 TDi

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    Dyno figures looks great problems only occur when you use the power :)
    Continous EGT @ 900plus will ruin the turbo in no time.
    Just as a bit of information a car I done about 8months ago done a top speed run on a runway (1.4miles).
    He managed 176mph from a standing start and made the bend - peak egt's recorded where 905 deg.
    Obviously if I did not put a egt limiter the fuel would not decrease and break the turbo before the end of the run.

    Ask some basic questions when you get your car tuned, you'll soon rule out the generic file flashers.
     
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  41. syed123

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    How much difference would this really make though bhp torque wise? I thought deleting the dpf was illegal too.

    Just an update -

    So a friend brought an s5 coupe and while it is fast, I was shocked to notice how different the kick felt vs on mine.

    It was no where near as neck breaking as mine felt although the power did feel good, overall I didn't expect it to feel as less fast as it did.

    Just goes to show the difference between 500nm to 700nm. Even though the s5 is supposedly 30bhp up with a higher rev band, it didn't feel as quick as mine.

    I'm definitely going to dyno soon to see how much power difference there is because on the road mine honestly felt quicker.
     
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  42. DonnyWade

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    Nice! I have yet to trial mine hints an S4 or S5, o even an S3. I had a race with an S3 before I had the remap and I could keep up pretty much until we got to 100mph or so, so pretty sure I would whip one now ;))
     

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