Red Low Oil Pressure warning. 2.0TFSI

[Mothy69]

In the 479th mile of a 480 mile journey the red low oil pressure light came on. i lifted off & free wheeled in neutral & the light went off, I put it in gear again & it came back on & when i put it in neutral it didnt go off again. I pulled over to the side of the road & listened & it sounded like a tractor - i could see the turning to my road, so i tried to make it - but the engine conked out as i turned into my road. I am assuming the engine is seized & I'll need a rebuild / new engine.

Can anyone give me some good news about this / hope. I havent bothered to send it to the garage yet to find out the damage as I suspect it will mean I wont repair..
If the engine has seized - whats the likely damage i have done (i know already - i just need to be told again..)

thanks in advance

 

[Charlie Farley]

Most likely a full rebuild as a minimum depending level of damage, depending on the value of the car it may turn out to be an un-economical repair.

 

[Mothy69]

Most likely a full rebuild as a minimum depending level of damage, depending on the value of the car it may turn out to be an un-economical repair.

Thats pretty much what I think. & thats uneconomical to repair imo

 

[Mothy69]

can i ask (in a completly naive way) - what else could go wrong? other than 'the engine'

what else could i have knackered?

thanks

 

[Stu_b7]

Awww mate I feel your pain!
I had this happen to me only last September, was driving then that light came on and sounded rough as, I had a Audi specialist take a look at her and found it was the oil pump and balance shaft had gone.
I was lucky tho and they took it all apart and said everything inside looked like new so only had to replace the shaft and oil parts, I did have new chain water pump pick up pipe all done the same time and it can to £1800 all in. Only difference was mine didn’t conk out at the end as I had RAC take it straight to the garage.
Hope it sheds abit of light for you
Good luck

 

[Mothy69]

Awww mate I feel your pain!
I had this happen to me only last September, was driving then that light came on and sounded rough as, I had a Audi specialist take a look at her and found it was the oil pump and balance shaft had gone.
I was lucky tho and they took it all apart and said everything inside looked like new so only had to replace the shaft and oil parts, I did have new chain water pump pick up pipe all done the same time and it can to £1800 all in. Only difference was mine didn’t conk out at the end as I had RAC take it straight to the garage.
Hope it sheds abit of light for you
Good luck

Thanks. Rac towed it to the garage I am using (I don't usually use them except I know they can do this better than the usual indy I go to). Garage rang me up & said they'd received my car & it started & they moved it into a parking space & it didn't sound too bad - until I pointed out it was petrol.. they do know what they are doing (honest). So there may be something salvageable on it but in some ways I want the engine out.

The turbo had flapper rattle anyway so I was looking to replace it. & cam belt is due & cam chain has a rattle & there's an oil leak round the back which is either a seal into or the vanos unit itself.. so it needs some money spent on it

Anyway. I have a budget of £4k for new engine, turbo, cam belt water pump etc, cam chain, oil pump, revised oil pick up pipe. & hopefully I'll get a little change for a valet..

 

[Stu_b7]

Thanks. Rac towed it to the garage I am using (I don't usually use them except I know they can do this better than the usual indy I go to). Garage rang me up & said they'd received my car & it started & they moved it into a parking space & it didn't sound too bad - until I pointed out it was petrol.. they do know what they are doing (honest). So there may be something salvageable on it but in some ways I want the engine out.

The turbo had flapper rattle anyway so I was looking to replace it. & cam belt is due & cam chain has a rattle & there's an oil leak round the back which is either a seal into or the vanos unit itself.. so it needs some money spent on it

Anyway. I have a budget of £4k for new engine, turbo, cam belt water pump etc, cam chain, oil pump, revised oil pick up pipe. & hopefully I'll get a little change for a valet..

Nice ok sounds like you have a good plan set out for it anyways then, make sure you get them to do the balance shaft delete and install the freewheel not 100% how it’s done but that what they done to mine and it feels so much better and it’s a nice piece of mind to know that can’t happen again,
Good luck

 

[Jamsmoo]

Not sure how much different to Audi’s but presumably something like this




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[Stu_b7]

Not sure how much different to Audi’s but presumably something like this




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That’s exactly the same thanks for that really good detailed video I would defo recommend doing it as well

 

[Mothy69]

garage have done a 1st inspection & were semi optimistic a new engine isnt required - but more work next week to tell me exactly what needs doing & price it. they said it started, didnt have a low oil pressure problem & the horrendous diesel sound is the slack cam chain

I am looking at Cam belt & water pump (as this was due this summer anyway), cam chain, revised oil pick up & balance shaft delete, new turbo (optional as mine has a flapper rattle on lift off which has annoyed me for 2 years) & who knows what else (oil pump / top end)..

Once i get it back, I am going to stage 1 map it & enjoy it (again) - even if it costs me £4k or £5k - it will be like having a new car (that i know in general is solid)

 

[Mothy69]

the car is now in bits & the engine is fine. One of the cam chain tensioners has shot causing the chain slap - but it hasn't jumped. So i have been quite lucky.

I am looking at £2.5k for the bits i listed + a new turbo (optional extra)

 

[Sloppy_1]

the car is now in bits & the engine is fine. One of the cam chain tensioners has shot causing the chain slap - but it hasn't jumped. So i have been quite lucky.

I am looking at £2.5k for the bits i listed + a new turbo (optional extra)

Ha ha mine did this, got low oil light a few weeks earlier then it was fine,

a week or 2 later the wife rang to say she was making record time home then about 10 mins later car had stopped!!

the chain on the back of the cams had snapped totally ******* the engine, i got a whole new engine from an a3 and swapped all the mounts over fitted perfectly.

Managed to get the a3 engine for £750 and sell loads of stuff off mine (block head etc sperate) for around £500 but this was back in 2012!!!

One thing you must do is clean the oil pickup, mine was covered in what i believe to be rocker cover gasket compound which had covered the gauze limiting oil flow hence the failure, to be fair the car was only 6 years old at the time and full audi history but high miles aprox 130k.

either clean it or replace it.

Its funny at the time i thought i was super unlucky but now as i look it seems to be a common thing?

 

[Pie-eyedpiper]

Thanks. Rac towed it to the garage I am using (I don't usually use them except I know they can do this better than the usual indy I go to). Garage rang me up & said they'd received my car & it started & they moved it into a parking space & it didn't sound too bad - until I pointed out it was petrol.. they do know what they are doing (honest). So there may be something salvageable on it but in some ways I want the engine out.

You've got to love these garages that when suspecting an engine seize/oil pump low pressure failure that they just start it up and drive it about.
So much more potential damage they could have caused.

 

[Mothy69]

Ha ha mine did this, got low oil light a few weeks earlier then it was fine,

a week or 2 later the wife rang to say she was making record time home then about 10 mins later car had stopped!!

the chain on the back of the cams had snapped totally ******* the engine, i got a whole new engine from an a3 and swapped all the mounts over fitted perfectly.

Managed to get the a3 engine for £750 and sell loads of stuff off mine (block head etc sperate) for around £500 but this was back in 2012!!!

One thing you must do is clean the oil pickup, mine was covered in what i believe to be rocker cover gasket compound which had covered the gauze limiting oil flow hence the failure, to be fair the car was only 6 years old at the time and full audi history but high miles aprox 130k.

either clean it or replace it.

Its funny at the time i thought i was super unlucky but now as i look it seems to be a common thing?

i am getting the revised oil pick up pipe fitted. interesting you say that as mine had a gasket leak - & they have had the rocker cover off to replace it - so maybe parts of the gasket have made their way south..

 

[Mothy69]

You've got to love these garages that when suspecting an engine seize/oil pump low pressure failure that they just start it up and drive it about.
So much more potential damage they could have caused.

i was really pleased too

 

[Stu_b7]

You've got to love these garages that when suspecting an engine seize/oil pump low pressure failure that they just start it up and drive it about.
So much more potential damage they could have caused.

I know right before I found retro resus which have done wonders for the car I had a mechanic come have a look first thing he did was start it up lift the bonnet then look at me and say wow ok I’ve never actually seen one of these engines!!!!! So at that point I quickly turned it off and said ok I will find somewhere else BYE! Scary that if I had taken my car to him and left it with him what could have happened

 

[Mothy69]

So an update - i have the car back. running well;

I have had:
new cam chain, cam belt & water pump, clutch, recon turbo, cylinder head rebuild to name a few expensive items..

apart from the fact that the car has no MIL lights BUT P0011 code. It may have had this before it went into the garage, but whatever - it does now. The garage assure me they have double checked cam chain & belt tensioners. & that it is likely either VVT actuator or N205 adjustor valve (which garage confirm as tested & working) - having spent what i have, i dont have funds trying either of those & the garage are assuring me that it is fine to drive as is without risk of causing engine damage..
So any opinions on that? they are saying worst case is limp mode kicks in, if at all, as running without MIL light..

& any thoughts on what else could it be?
cam shaft sensor? Having invested a few £k into it i was hoping to have worry free motoring again..

 

[Charlie Farley]

I'd having words with them to be honest.
They should have checked it all after rebuild, sounds like they just stuck it all back without fully checking it was working corrctly.

code here.

16395/P0011/000017​

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Contents​

• 116395/P0011/000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): ****** Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
  • 1.1Possible Symptoms
  • 1.2Possible Causes
  • 1.3Possible Solutions
  • 1.4Special Notes

16395/P0011/000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): ****** Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)​

Possible Symptoms​

• Power Loss

Possible Causes​

• Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205) faulty
• Fuel Pump Relay (J17) faulty
• Mechanical Timing not correct, including Chain and/or Belt timing.

Possible Solutions​

• Check Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205)
• Check Fuel Pump Relay (J17) (applicable for vehicles with J17 only)
• Check Mechanical Timing

Special Notes​

• When found in Engine: 4.0l W8
  • Check TPL 2010059(RoW)
    • Check/Replace Oil Sieve in Timing Case (Camshaft Adjuster)
• When found in 2008 and newer VW 2.0T engine with a timing chain (example; CCTA and CBFA), please see:
  • TT 01-15-08 for information about the intake camshaft, adjuster bridge and spool valve.
    • https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174989-0001.pdf NHTSA

 

[Mothy69]

thanks. m

I'd having words with them to be honest.
They should have checked it all after rebuild, sounds like they just stuck it all back without fully checking it was working corrctly.

code here.

16395/P0011/000017​

Jump to:navigation, search

Contents​

• 116395/P0011/000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): ****** Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
  • 1.1Possible Symptoms
  • 1.2Possible Causes
  • 1.3Possible Solutions
  • 1.4Special Notes

16395/P0011/000017 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): ****** Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)​

Possible Symptoms​

• Power Loss

Possible Causes​

• Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205) faulty
• Fuel Pump Relay (J17) faulty
• Mechanical Timing not correct, including Chain and/or Belt timing.

Possible Solutions​

• Check Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205)
• Check Fuel Pump Relay (J17) (applicable for vehicles with J17 only)
• Check Mechanical Timing

Special Notes​

• When found in Engine: 4.0l W8
  • Check TPL 2010059(RoW)
    • Check/Replace Oil Sieve in Timing Case (Camshaft Adjuster)
• When found in 2008 and newer VW 2.0T engine with a timing chain (example; CCTA and CBFA), please see:
  • TT 01-15-08 for information about the intake camshaft, adjuster bridge and spool valve.
    • https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/MC-10174989-0001.pdf NHTSA

thanks:
to be fair to the garage, they told me it had the code before giving it back to me. & double checked timing on cam chain & belt. & tested N205 & confirmed its working (but cant confirm the oil flow rate through it is correct). I have said don't do any more fault investigation on it, as they were suggesting N205 or actuator (expensive)

but i think i will get them to follow up with the fuel pump relay (cheap) & then the N205 (not that expensive)

 

[Mothy69]

i only got it back yesterday - i've cleared the code & driven 100 miles & code hasnt come back (yet). wishful thinking but keeping my fingers crossed

 

[Mothy69]

its back - well i assume it is. MIL light has come on. but my basic obd reader doesnt have any codes, so i cant clear it or turn off MIL light.

Another local garage is going to look at it now (to confirm timing belt & chain have been done correctly)..

the joys..

 

[Stu_b7]

its back - well i assume it is. MIL light has come on. but my basic obd reader doesnt have any codes, so i cant clear it or turn off MIL light.

Another local garage is going to look at it now (to confirm timing belt & chain have been done correctly)..

the joys..

Fingers crossed mate really hope you get this sorted and it’s not too expensive after what you have already been through! I’m counting myself lucky now as had the same problem with the low oil pressure but now seems better then she ever has been.

 

[Mothy69]

N205 cam solenoid changed = not that

Thinking about changing the cam adjustor next.. which isn't the cheap option. Car runs perfectly otherwise