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Facelift Pirelli Tyre Defects - Response

AudiNutta Dec 2, 2018

  1. JackQuint

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    Not that I've noticed but the car just got out of the break-in period this past weekend so I haven't been all that aggressive with it yet. That gives me a bit of time before I have to worry about it.
     
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  3. FBF01

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    Had a flat tyre last week, turned out it was due to the tyre being shredded to **** on the inside wall after 10k miles. Garage at time made no mention of the other 3 tyres. Car was in for a full service, haldex service, new front and rear pads today...informed the front drivers side has 4.4mm left of tread but it’s cut to sh*t as well. Rears have 3mm left. Be Michelin all round or Goodyear’s shortly.
     
  4. T-1000

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    Don’t you check your tyres at all ?

    A simple lock to lock viewing and you can see the inner edges.
     
  5. FBF01

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    right on the inner edge and truth be said couldn’t see anything, amazed the other garage had missed it also, however having seen the tyre myself when taken off, amazed it was missed!!! Said when up on ramp and spinning the wheel that they saw it.
     
  6. Daniel Knight

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    I think I've commented on this thread once already but I have now gone through 10 front tyres in 18 months.

    Each time I buy a new tyre I rage a little inside but I've just learned to expect it now. For extra context I have done 45,000 miles in my car.
     
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  7. infernox

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    I couldn't see mine when I did lock to lock viewing but I could feel it by doing that.
     
  8. Slowracer

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    I did check mine regularly as I was aware of the problem. However the problem is they go from showing a slight wear mark on the edge to showing the chords very quickly. So it’s easy to get caught out. My mechanic alerted me to the chords showing when he was doing some suspension work, when I looked a few weeks beforehand they were marked but ok.
     
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  9. Callump01

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    Wrong. Couldn't see the insides on mine when I did this.
     
  10. T-1000

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    Depends how hard you look.
     
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  11. ollie2013uk

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    My RS3 had done 75 miles and I noticed a wobble over 70mph, took it to Audi and they replaced the front tyres under warranty. They were incredibly misshaped. They too were Pirelli. This was a month ago.
     
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  13. sve170

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    Agree, lock to lock does not allow you to see inside edge of tyres.


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  14. infernox

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    Wow that's very early. Good they changed it under warranty at least.
     
  15. Splathead

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    First service today (9100 miles) and the dealer failed to spot the wear on the inside of the front tyres - they just reported 5mm and wearing evenly across the surface. :nomouth:
     
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  16. EVO855

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    Sorry to post this but a friend of mine disagrees.

    Full lock bend down and look inside.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. FBF01

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    hmmmmmm...I’ve had a wobble also. Ever so slight. Unsure if I’m imagining it. Had two new front tyres. Unsure if maybe wheel weights are off and not balanced correctly?
     
  18. Splathead

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    Just noticed the chamfering on the inside edge on the Audicam report. (sorry about the poor resolution)
     
  19. Will Howarth

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    Ive been lurking around here since ordering my car a couple of years ago and just signed up.My car is a 2018 RS3 Facelift with mag ride and staggered wheels and has done 13k miles.Predominantly used by my wife and rarely driven in anger(probably 80 per cent of its miles have been on 30mph roads!)my car is in for its first service today at the local Audi dealer and,like many others have experienced here,the front tyres are worn to the cords on the inside-despite the tread depth across the contact area being fine.Is it still worth retaining the old tyres and informing Pirelli?My Audi centre want £280 per tyre to replace and black circles are around £225.Any other good offers on at the moment. Will
     
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  20. martin lo

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    Kwikfit had them around £200 with 10% off that with code PIRELLI10 if its still valid...
     
  21. Will Howarth

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    I’ve got the car back now and had a chance to have a look at the tyres.The contact area tread is around 4mm with the cords just starting to become exposed on the inner walls of the inside edges-hard to see unless at full lock.On the one hand it’s a good job that they have been seen but frustrating that two half worn tyres have to be replaced at a cost of £450!
     
  22. sve170

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    Challenge the dealer on that price, even more so if you bought your RS from them.
    My Audi dealer does my tyres at cost price, so worth speaking to them, forget the Service advisors, ask to see the Service Manager and if ask if he drops the price to a reasonable level you will buy them.


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  23. Will Howarth

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    I’ve ordered 2 new tyres off blackcircles in the end.Kwik Fit were slightly cheaper but I’m still traumatised from the last time I went there when they damaged a 2 week old Mercedes wheel I took to have a puncture repaired.The local garage blackcircles use are great and I’m confident they will keep my wheels like new.I use my local Audi garage for the least I have to after having bad experiences there too over the years.
     

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  24. evil_scooby

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    It is a shame. I got 25k out my rears and they still had 4mm across all parts, but again 2nd set of pirellos at front already well worn down at edges.
    I jumped to Michelin all round now like a lots of others . Better and cheaper

    Still frustrated as per others posts above about having to change tyres so quickly especially with most of the tyre having plenty of tred

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  25. craigpanthercrystal

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    Not an RS3 - SORRY but on my S3 using P Zero 235/35/19 I have just changed my RO1s after 20K with no unusual wear to RO2's done about 2K on the RO2s so far with no issues to report so far. Prob early days but will post updates if they are relevant, BTW it is lowered on Eiback Sportlines with a slight aggressive camber
     
  26. Liz

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    Hi Matt, just found your post from 2018 and the following discussions, after googling this exact issue. Just had my first service on 2019 RS3, only 11k carefully driven miles, tread on tyres only 30 % worn. Inner edges ripped through to the canvas and cuts on the walls and treads down to cord.
    Can you let me know the latest on this issue please and where you got to in the end. Currently putting together complaint to dealership and direct to Audi, my initial thoughts before finding your post was sub standard tyres (perhaps Audi brought a job lot to go on the RS3), so was going to throw it back to Audi for supplying the car with sub-standard tyres. Dealership tried to fob me off (being a women) and telling me caused due to slightly low pressure in the tyres and them being low profile. Didn't buy it, check alignment, tracking and pressure often as aware what affect it can have on tyre wear. I've owned plenty of cars with hard suspension and low profile tyres, never experienced this. Be interested to know what happened. Thanks for doing the post.
     
  27. Pinky1959

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    As far as I am aware (I don't have an Audi but follow the forum) recommendation is to contact Pirelli and they will collect the tyres and have them checked.
    It may be a good idea to try the Audi supplying duff tyres as well .
     
  28. rdj

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    Liz - although this thread has gone a bit cold I would recommend you keep hold of the tyres. Once Matt has a chance to respond (or you can send him a PM) I'm sure he'll give you his contact at Pirelli who were looking into the issue. They will collect the tyres for testing - perhaps they are looking at the affect the RS3 geometry has on the construction of the tyres (which is where the issue lies in my personal view), but no-one is sure...
    Despite this hope you're enjoying the RS!
     
  29. NBS

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  30. NBS

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    I have this problem, so looking for any update on the situation. Booked into Audi next week for alignment check. I cannot believe that apparently so many people have been affected and no explanation or solution. Is it just some cars or all cars and the issue goes unnoticed? This is a highly dangerous situation especially with the long service periods nowdays. Did I read here one owner had 10 pairs of tyres in 18months!!
     
  31. Riko0073

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    Worrying indeed!

    Might change my tyres now at 5,000 miles to either MPS or Assy 5’s and just store the Pirelli’s for when I sell/hand back the car still with decent tread.
     
  32. T-1000

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    Zero issues here with the OEM Pirelli’s Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports / Pirelli SottoZero winter tyres.


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  34. NBS

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    What age is the car?
     
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  35. D0C

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    This was on a TTRS, 67 plate.
     
  36. sve170

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    I am into my 2nd FL RS3 and at the moment no issues at all with the Pirelli’s.
    I do though have the recommended tyre pressures set at the highest psi as per the info on the drivers door regardless of how many people are in the car.

    I am sure there is a post on this forum recommending all of us to increase our pressures to max and monitor the tyre wear.



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  37. NBS

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    Question - is it just the 255/30/19 that have this problem or do those running 235/35 /19 also suffer? I ask because I just tried the Configurator for a new RS3 and there does not seem to be an option for the staggered set up. Next question, as this was the reason I was looking at the Configurator, are the wheels the same width (8J) on the staggered set up or are the fronts 81/2J?
     
  38. martin lo

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    Screenshot shows the sport edition with 8.5J front and the "normal" 8J...
     
  39. NBS

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    Thanks for that - I wasn't expecting to find wheels under "trim"!
     
  40. T-1000

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    I was told by an Audi sport day expert to run tyres at their top pressure on the sticker.

    When I first fitted the Goodyear F1 Supersport tyres last year they looked like they were starting to wear on the inside, I spoke to GY technical about this and they too said to raise the pressures in them.
    Had no issues after that and I check em all the time by the lock to lock method.


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  41. terminator x

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    Are you an upgrade to @T-800 :tearsofjoy:

    TX.

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  42. D0C

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    **** it, I’m renaming myself to T-10000!
     
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  43. deepy

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    Have covered 7500 miles on my staggered setup and have used the max pressures since day 1, which are showing even wear across the surface. Perhaps its still early days (not sure why the image isn't being shown)
     

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