Next Gen 2021 Audi A3 Sedan Debut

Mr Freeze

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The new A3 also has a SNOUT POUT mate.....stand around 45 degrees off centre of the car....and it looks ungainly.....Pooh faced....as they would say.....What l did like about the exterior of the A3 was the Matte Aluminum on the window surrounds and on the lower door sills,the car pictured above had the optional Matrix lights fitted to it standard everywhere else it's sill early days as far as the new A3 is concerned

The New A3 is a lot better looking car than the 1 series . People say the A3 range all look the same but so do the new 1 series and that grill oh dear :puke2:
 

Chris4410

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The New A3 is a lot better looking car than the 1 series . People say the A3 range all look the same but so do the new 1 series and that grill oh dear :puke2:

The standard colour of the grill doesn't do the front end any favors, changing to the gloss black M performance grill makes a big difference.
 

Simon1972

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Yes they are and they are also cheap looking in their formation with the dot matrix clearly visible whilst in use, they're design is also low rent akin to flashing led lights you'd put on a Xmas Tree....Matrix lights on an Audi use a Flube Design with virtually no dot matric visible and are Amazing things to drive with on...They even do a little dance on start up pure class....would'nt buy a car without them now

I was referring to the use of dynamic lights in general but each to their own.
 

jassyo06

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I was referring to the use of dynamic lights in general but each to their own.

Dynamic or cascading indicators are only available on matrix/laser headlight systems on VAG models...you cant have them just on their own hence l mentioned matrix headlights,the new A3's matrix headlight system has taken them a step further by introducing a unique cluster design below the dipped beam unit as well as retaining the cascading turn signal indicators
 

jassyo06

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The New A3 is a lot better looking car than the 1 series . People say the A3 range all look the same but so do the new 1 series and that grill oh dear :puke2:

The New A3 Sportback is photogenic but in the metal it's not as good looking to my eyes anyway
 

Snake Pliskin

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Personally I think the lights on the A3 look great :yes:
The new Seat Leon has some interesting disco lights going on also

Audi are usually one of the best at lights. The A3 light configurations do look interesting but I am not sure if the different patterns are a bit gimmicky ?
Different patterns for different models is unique but I am not sure if this will be a long term thing or one hit wonder.

Yeah the Seat does look pretty cool :icon thumright:
 

Simon1972

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It's quite funny really. BMW have been getting some stick over the large grill recently then bang, along comes the A3 with that black hole stuck to the front.

To be fair I'm not put of by the A3 externals. It fits in with the Audi language and all that. The inside on the other hand just seems to be merging in with elements of Skoda and Seat and looks a bit of a disaster. I did have a quite chuckle as the Usual Audi defence is 'Oh but look at the interior' Having sat in the A6 recently, thats pretty much the same story.

I've also noticed the trend to make the cars look porkier what with the new 1 series and A3
 

Chris4410

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I agree the grill looks a lot better in black

I'am just not a fan of the front end on the M135i just don't think it looks aggressive enough compared to other M cars in the range .

Yeah it does need additional trim, the demo I was looking at has the full M performance kit on it, if I were to buy one I would have to have this kit factored into the deal as I wouldn’t have one without it.
 

Mr Freeze

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Yeah it does need additional trim, the demo I was looking at has the full M performance kit on it, if I were to buy one I would have to have this kit factored into the deal as I wouldn’t have one without it.

Didn't even realise they did a M Performance kit for it I could imagine that being expensive ?
 

jassyo06

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I agree the grill looks a lot better in black

I'am just not a fan of the front end on the M135i just don't think it looks aggressive enough compared to other M cars in the range .


It's not an M car and it looks very aggressive to my eyes at the front..with real intake vents,it also has vents at the corners of the front bumper to aid air deflection.....out past the front wheels @Chris4410 that Batmobile -esq bodykit is a step too far in my eyes
 

S3LOK

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Yeah it does need additional trim, the demo I was looking at has the full M performance kit on it, if I were to buy one I would have to have this kit factored into the deal as I wouldn’t have one without it.

Yeah, I would add the Aero Flicks, Black Diamond Grill and the Black Rear Spoiler. I would also wrap the side mirrors and the front vents in gloss black.


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Mr Freeze

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It's not an M car and it looks very aggressive to my eyes at the front..with real intake vents,it also has vents at the corners of the front bumper to aid air deflection.....out past the front wheels @Chris4410 that Batmobile -esq bodykit is a step too far in my eyes

You know what i mean its as near as you get to M car for the 1 series these days . I disagree with you on the front being very aggressive but its all down to personal taste and opinion .
 

Chris4410

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It's not an M car and it looks very aggressive to my eyes at the front..with real intake vents,it also has vents at the corners of the front bumper to aid air deflection.....out past the front wheels @Chris4410 that Batmobile -esq bodykit is a step too far in my eyes

I don't do subtle :welcoming:

Remember I did have a yellow A35 with the full aero kit.
 

Jimbob76

Roof Rails Enthusiast
I can't help thinking due to the constant regulations ruining cars the M2 competition could be the last of the great BMW 6 cylinder engines.

I know the technology in the M2 is way behind that of the M135i, if they were the same internally the M2 would be perfect and the latter wouldn't even be a choice.

Ironically this whole situation is what has made the M2 an option for me, no longer will I be driving to and from an office every week day, this will be a 2 day thing at most and even that situation is months away.

The exhaust sound is fixable with a remus back box, this is something I would probably install after the M running in service was done.

Agree with you mate ... M2 could be a keeper & part of a dying breed !

M2 is a lovely car

Gents, I completely agree with you. The M2 Comp is one of the few cars on the road at the moment that does make me turn my head and think ‘there’s someone who knows their stuff and appreciates a good motor’. In Sunset Orange it looks absolutely cracking in the flesh. Reckon the recipe of rear wheel drive, those muscular haunches and a 3 litre straight 6 paired to a manual ‘box (yep you can get ‘em with an old fashioned analogue gearbox) marks it out as one of the last of a generation and I reckon it could be a future classic. I bet it’s an absolute hoot to drive. Yes the interior isn’t up to par with latest models, but that wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

I’d have one in a heartbeat as a long term keeper, if I didn’t have to be a sensible family man. Pic below has a few M Performance parts glued on, but looks belting.

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Chris4410

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Saloon looks the best again
 

S3LOK

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So much for the rumoured 330bhp, still 310 is more than enough.

The red Saloon looks quite good Front and back, but the interior is nothing special, about the same as a S Line model apart from the Quattro badge.

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pburv

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So much for the rumoured 330bhp, still 310 is more than enough.

The red Saloon looks quite good Front and back, but the interior is nothing special, about the same as a S Line model apart from the Quattro badge.

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The red on the saloon sets the car of really well.:thumbs up:
Best pic of the S3 saloon so far for me.:yum:
 

TYb

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So much for the rumoured 330bhp, still 310 is more than enough.

The red Saloon looks quite good Front and back, but the interior is nothing special, about the same as a S Line model apart from the Quattro badge.

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More than enough but what’s the point of upgrading
So much for the rumoured 330bhp, still 310 is more than enough.

The red Saloon looks quite good Front and back, but the interior is nothing special, about the same as a S Line model apart from the Quattro badge.

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Definitely more than enough but will it be enough for current owners to switch. If I was in a PFL I would be tempted but not a FL, there isn’t much of a jump from what I can see.
 

pburv

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More than enough but what’s the point of upgrading


Definitely more than enough but will it be enough for current owners to switch. If I was in a PFL I would be tempted but not a FL, there isn’t much of a jump from what I can see.
That's a fair point. You would be mad to change up just for the sake of it but if you can afford it go for it...You can't go too wrong with any performance VAG model car.
 

Chris4410

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I would agree, I can't see enough of a change here to temp current S3 owners to upgrade.
 

Bells

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Wonder if the Golf R will have more bhp then because wasn’t that rumoured to be 330? It’d be funny if they outdid Audi but I doubt it.

Not hugely impressed if I’m honest, the updated tech would be nice but would’ve preferred a scroll wheel for the MMI.

Don’t see the point in upgrading from my current S3 for what north of £40k I’d be getting a quieter car thanks to GPF, same power and a slower 0-60 :blink:
 
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Bells

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Also just noticed in the press release they are saying that:

Increased performance
With a 2.0 TFSI engine that packs a 310PS punch, the next-generation S3 produces 10PS more than its predecessor.

Convenient they forget the original FL S3’s had 310 until they detuned them to fit the new regs :tearsofjoy:
 

SPIKE_JCW

Vorsprung durch Technik
Another fact that doesn't sound good:

Unfortunately, the new S3 won’t be picking up the new EVO4 variant of the EA888 engine that will appear in the forthcoming Golf R, instead it makes do with the previous engine almost wholesale with figures rated at 306bhp and 295lb ft, a 10bhp rise over the previous S3. Another piece of VW tech that hasn’t been applied to the Audi is a torque-vectoring rear differential, instead the S3 utilises a centrally-mounted clutch pack ahead of the rear axle to vary power front-to-rear.
 

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Snake Pliskin

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Hmmm I'm in two minds - I look at some photos and thinks it looks great, then not so in some others.

There is a LOT of grille going on though in this pic ...

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Although the good news is ... less prone to stone chips on the paint front end lol
 

jassyo06

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Noticed black exhaust trims as well as that stupid looking bootlid spoiler ...Saloon is still the best looking variant and the more expensive .....looking forward to seeing one in the metal

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jassyo06

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I do like the front grill on the S3 bit different to the S-line one ....

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alpesh26

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Hmmm I'm in two minds - I look at some photos and thinks it looks great, then not so in some others.

There is a LOT of grille going on though in this pic ...

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Although the good news is ... less prone to stone chips on the paint front end lol

The bottom of the grille looks like they couldn't be bothered to design it anymore or they ran out of space
 

NevMan

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Also just noticed in the press release they are saying that:

Increased performance
With a 2.0 TFSI engine that packs a 310PS punch, the next-generation S3 produces 10PS more than its predecessor.

Convenient they forget the original FL S3’s had 310 until they detuned them to fit the new regs :tearsofjoy:

Lazy reporting as usual. A shame not using newer engine
 

Snake Pliskin

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I do like the front grill on the S3 bit different to the S-line one ....

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It does look quite aggressive compared to the S Line - do you not think the honeycomb openings look quite large on the main grille ?
Sometimes photos distort things though.
Agreed, saloon does look better in those photos.
 

wab172uk

Now in an X3 M40i And a Yaris GR-Four
Very disappointing. The Hatch looks very bland. Saloon looks much better.

So much for the rumoured 328bhp. Will be interesting to see if the Golf gets the extra power? No manual option. And a terrible interior. Black shiny cheap plastic everywhere. Still a better interior than the Golfs though.

I'll await to see one in the flesh. And it will be the mid-life face-lift in 2-3 years time if I went back to S3 / RS3. But as it stands, it's a `No` from me.

VW Group are cheapening their interiors down far too much. Yet the cars cost more than ever. This new S3 Saloon starts at more than what my well specced 2015 car came to.
 

Snake Pliskin

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Very disappointing. The Hatch looks very bland. Saloon looks much better.

So much for the rumoured 328bhp. Will be interesting to see if the Golf gets the extra power? No manual option. And a terrible interior. Black shiny cheap plastic everywhere. Still a better interior than the Golfs though.

I'll await to see one in the flesh. And it will be the mid-life face-lift in 2-3 years time if I went back to S3 / RS3. But as it stands, it's a `No` from me.

VW Group are cheapening their interiors down far too much. Yet the cars cost more than ever. This new S3 Saloon starts at more than what my well specced 2015 car came to.


Audi 'were' the sector leaders for interiors too - but now I am beginning to think they are lagging behind BMW & Merc who have genuinely upped their game massively. Perhaps Audi have got a bit complacent or just tried something different on the interior design. Some elements of quality and design are still there - the interior door design looks slick and modern for example, but some other aspects are not as aesthetically pleasing.
 

wab172uk

Now in an X3 M40i And a Yaris GR-Four
Audi 'were' the sector leaders for interiors too - but now I am beginning to think they are lagging behind BMW & Merc who have genuinely upped their game massively. Perhaps Audi have got a bit complacent or just tried something different on the interior design. Some elements of quality and design are still there - the interior door design looks slick and modern for example, but some other aspects are not as aesthetically pleasing.

I'd agree with that. My X3 M40i interior is a very nice place to be. Much better than in any current Audi I've sat in.
 
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