A4 in the AE list for best new cars in 2019 https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/99505/best-new-cars-for-2019
and the exhausts aren't fake...
I think it's facts we need, not opinions. The fact is the A4 sales have been dismal compared to its German rivals. The facts are that the interior has fallen well behind it's rivals in terms of technology, something Audi prides itself on.
The fact is also that if Audi only bring out a mild facelift again, which they already did so in 2018, they will lose more sales in Europe to point where the model could be dropped altogether and the emphasis placed towards SUV'S.
I tend to think that when German car enthusiasts, such as Auto Bild, state there will be a all new A4 in 2019-20 then they are not to be ignored...
Quite, interesting times ahead, new A3 and possibly a 'new' A4...Subjective though isn’t it. “All new A4” could easily be used to describe a facelift.
In any case we’ll find out soon enough.
That's probably only a test mule, no way will Audi be producing a second facelift worse than the first. That would put them well behind the Mercedes and the BMW.
Think about it, would Audi deliberately kill the sales of the A4?
I agree totally, however BMW have brought out a new three series and Mercedes have brought out a major facelift to their c class which is why I am stating Audi need to up their game. The very minor facelift Audi have done to the A4 is truly wanting...To be honest mate, I think they have slipped behind Merc and BM. A colleague of mine had been waiting since June last year for S4, cancelled 6-8 weeks ago, ordered a Merc GLC, and took delivery last week!
The cheap scratchy plastics are all too prevalent in the new models such as A1, Q3 etc
There were very minor tweaks to the front and rear bumper trims and the exhaust outlets plus the 1.4 petrol engine was dropped for a 150ps 2.0l version. I believe that orders from as early as April last were delayed thus it is difficult to actually place which week number they occurred. I think though all my2019 cars were facelift versions...Apologies for butting in but the facelift in 2018 that’s been referred to, what build week in 2018 did that take effect from ?
Is there anywhere I can get a concise list of what was included in this facelift ? I may be in the market for a used A4 within the next few months and it’s the 18/68 plate that i’m likely looking at.
Thanks
https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en...ven-sportier-and-even-more-cutting-edge-11655
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, or a biased one because I have a MY2017, but this facelift... kind of sucks?
What happened to the subtle yet powerful presence? Oof.
- The headlights internals look worse than the previous Matrix LED lights. better than the others though.
- The external shape of the headlights is far less aggressive and interesting than the previous ones
- The fake air inlet above the bumper, and between the headlights completely breaks the clean and "one piece" look Audi has been touting.
- The grill is starting to look more akin to a Ford Focus than and Audi
- The erasure of the crease that used to run along the doors, and essentially stretch all around the car is gone, making this weird "void" where the doors are.
- The chrome trim on the boot lid just doesnt look like a good fit to me.
- Interior is pretty much the same, besides the touch screen which would just get finger prints and annoy me.
Some pictures to illustrate my point:
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Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, or a biased one because I have a MY2017, but this facelift... kind of sucks?
What happened to the subtle yet powerful presence? Oof.
- The headlights internals look worse than the previous Matrix LED lights. better than the others though.
- The external shape of the headlights is far less aggressive and interesting than the previous ones
- The fake air inlet above the bumper, and between the headlights completely breaks the clean and "one piece" look Audi has been touting.
- The grill is starting to look more akin to a Ford Focus than and Audi
- The erasure of the crease that used to run along the doors, and essentially stretch all around the car is gone, making this weird "void" where the doors are.
- The chrome trim on the boot lid just doesnt look like a good fit to me.
- Interior is pretty much the same, besides the touch screen which would just get finger prints and annoy me.
Some pictures to illustrate my point:
View attachment 182527 View attachment 182528
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, or a biased one because I have a MY2017, but this facelift... kind of sucks?
What happened to the subtle yet powerful presence? Oof.
- The headlights internals look worse than the previous Matrix LED lights. better than the others though.
- The external shape of the headlights is far less aggressive and interesting than the previous ones
- The fake air inlet above the bumper, and between the headlights completely breaks the clean and "one piece" look Audi has been touting.
- The grill is starting to look more akin to a Ford Focus than and Audi
- The erasure of the crease that used to run along the doors, and essentially stretch all around the car is gone, making this weird "void" where the doors are.
- The chrome trim on the boot lid just doesnt look like a good fit to me.
- Interior is pretty much the same, besides the touch screen which would just get finger prints and annoy me.
Some pictures to illustrate my point:
View attachment 182527 View attachment 182528
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, or a biased one because I have a MY2017, but this facelift... kind of sucks?
What happened to the subtle yet powerful presence? Oof.
- The headlights internals look worse than the previous Matrix LED lights. better than the others though.
- The external shape of the headlights is far less aggressive and interesting than the previous ones
- The fake air inlet above the bumper, and between the headlights completely breaks the clean and "one piece" look Audi has been touting.
- The grill is starting to look more akin to a Ford Focus than and Audi
- The erasure of the crease that used to run along the doors, and essentially stretch all around the car is gone, making this weird "void" where the doors are.
- The chrome trim on the boot lid just doesnt look like a good fit to me.
- Interior is pretty much the same, besides the touch screen which would just get finger prints and annoy me.
Some pictures to illustrate my point:
View attachment 182527 View attachment 182528
View attachment 182529Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, or a biased one because I have a MY2017, but this facelift... kind of sucks?
What happened to the subtle yet powerful presence? Oof.
- The headlights internals look worse than the previous Matrix LED lights. better than the others though.
- The external shape of the headlights is far less aggressive and interesting than the previous ones
- The fake air inlet above the bumper, and between the headlights completely breaks the clean and "one piece" look Audi has been touting.
- The grill is starting to look more akin to a Ford Focus than and Audi
- The erasure of the crease that used to run along the doors, and essentially stretch all around the car is gone, making this weird "void" where the doors are.
- The chrome trim on the boot lid just doesnt look like a good fit to me.
- Interior is pretty much the same, besides the touch screen which would just get finger prints and annoy me.
Some pictures to illustrate my point:
View attachment 182527 View attachment 182528
In its defense it'll still sell as many as my model, it's just not radical enough, or has the individual or artistic merit for us current A4 owners. It is just another confirmation that Audi appear to be out of touch with Audiphiles..Don’t think it is unpopular at all mate, don’t hear of many rushing out to order this FL
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In its defense it'll still sell as many as my model, it's just not radical enough, or has the individual or artistic merit for us current A4 owners. It is just another confirmation that Audi appear to be out of touch with Audiphiles..
Thanks (it’s at 7:52) and, yes, it’s very disappointing. Still considering the move to an A4 from my A3. Looks like it’s a “bargain” MY2019 later in the year that my attentions will be aimed at.I think you'll find some in the video in post #59?
How do you find the engine in the 35 ? Flexible enough ? It’s probably what I will be looking at should I take the plungeI've had a MY2019 for a few months after a 10 month wait, I'm glad it took so long to arrive as I got the facelift. If I had got the old model late in 2018 and then they announced this new facelift for MY2020 i'd be annoyed. Overall though i'm not too bothered, by the time MY2020 model is out i'll be almost half way through my lease.
The interior changes are much needed though, the MY2019 model feels quite dated inside, its my biggest frustration with the car. VC is cool, but looks dated compared to the newer VC's, and lack of touch screen is terrible. Its good that the interior isn't getting the same dual touch that the A6 has. I think the MY2020 will be pretty good with these new changes.