New brakes needed....what setup?

[g10chy]

Hi,

I needs new pads and discs for my MOT. What the best set-up on a budget?

Pads? - DS2500's seem the best choice of pads. Should this be front and rear or front only?

Discs? - What discs should I go for front and rear? I swear i read somewhere on here that may as well leave the rear set up as standard as that is sufficent enough.

Brake fluid? -

Braided hoses? - Are they really required?

Anything else?

Cheers,
Chris

 

[Reesy]

Have a look at the stickies, at the top of the 8L part. There's a whole thread dedicated to it.

I use plain discs from ECP, and run mintex pads, with performance fluid.

 

[g10chy]

Already looked through that sticky reesyboy.

I have everything choosen except front discs now...I want a good plain set. What are the recommendations?

 

[Reesy]

Something plain like the Pagid discs from Euro car parts would be a plain option...
Depends how much you want to spend/ whether you want nice looking discs

 

[g10chy]

Will OEM spec discs be ok with DS2500 pads? Not too aggressive for the disks?

 

[Westy]

OEM disks or pagid will be fine mate. I'm running Brembo Max which i'm really happy with. I checked the wear on the disks last week as they've nearly been on a year and the disks are still in great condition. DS2500 dont tend to chew disks up that much.

 

[g10chy]

Anyone got the product code for DS2500s for S3? Also, where is the best place to purchase?

Just bought some new Pagid fronts and got a free 5pc spanner set from Euro Car Parts!!

 

[g10chy]

Also, how much Motul RBF600 will i need?

 

[JS1500]

Front: Brembo Max Grooved discs and DS2500 pads
Rear: Just bought AUDI S3 QUATTRO 99-03 REAR BRAKE DISCS MINTEX PADS on eBay (end time 05-May-11 13:05:31 BST) - not fitted yet so can't really comment, but they should be fine as the rears aren't too important on our cars.
Lines: Standard ok if you're on a budget.
Fluid: Motul RBF 600 (or 660, can't remember which I used!)

 

[Westy]

RBF 600 I got 1.5 litres

 

[g10chy]

Nice one Westle!

Everything is now ordered:

£190 for DS2500s + 1.5 litres of Motul RBF600 from Larkspeed.com
£80 for Pagid front discs from Euro Car Parts
£47 for Rear discs & pads (Bosch) from VWspares.co.uk
£317 total :thumbsup:

 

[Westy]

Good luck buddy. It'll feel a lot better once it's all done.

 

[JS1500]

Nice one, should make a big difference.
Just be sure to run them in correctly.

 

[Westy]

Follow this guide mate, that's what I did and they are perfect:

http://badger-5.com/bin/brakes/bedding-in-330-brakes.txt

 

[g10chy]

Cheers again Westle!!! Already found this on the forum.

 

[fran-s3]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but just wanted every opinion on Motul RBF600 - do I need 3 500ml bottles then? I don't want to buy more than I need!

Is this a good price from Ebay? (for 3 bottles)

Motul RBF600 Racing Brake Fluid Race Rally Oval x3 | eBay UK

 

[Westy]

Yes mate I bought 3 bottles for a similar price and it's always good to have a little bit extra fluid.

 

[fran-s3]

Awesome cheers Westle Although I probably won't get the clutch bled though - depends if it's extra at the garage. Did you crack open all 3 bottles mate? I couldn't get away with 2 could I? (im so skint after new discs and ds2500 pads!)

 

[Westy]

You probably could get away with 2. I didn't do the job myself in the end, 4rings did it and I gave Dean all 3 bottles but he did bleed the clutch too.

 

[fran-s3]

Awesome cheers! Did they use VAG-COM to do it? <mobile mechanics aren't they 4rings>

 

[Westy]

Awesome cheers! Did they use VAG-COM to do it? <mobile mechanics aren't they 4rings>

They are mobile mechanics but I dropped the car off at their garage last year as I was having my cambelt changed at the same time. I'm sure Dean did use VCDS to operate the pump.

I should be dropping the car off with Dean this Sunday as they are doing a service and removing the turbo ready to go to CR Turbos or Turbo Dynamics for a refurb so I'll ask Dean about the brake fluid change then if you want?

 

[S3 MCW]

is it worth getting braided hoses?

 

[Westy]

is it worth getting braided hoses?

I did get braided hoses, they are around £60-70 for HEL or Goodrich and are worth doing if you have the spare cash and you will be bleeding the system.

 

[g10chy]

What benefit do you get from bleeding the clutch? My cars booked in for major service and brakes on Wednesday so will ask them to do this at the same time.

 

[Westy]

What benefit do you get from bleeding the clutch? My cars booked in for major service and brakes on Wednesday so will ask them to do this at the same time.

When mine was bled I had a much better feel from the clutch pedal. It's worth doing.

 

[fran-s3]

They are mobile mechanics but I dropped the car off at their garage last year as I was having my cambelt changed at the same time. I'm sure Dean did use VCDS to operate the pump.

I should be dropping the car off with Dean this Sunday as they are doing a service and removing the turbo ready to go to CR Turbos or Turbo Dynamics for a refurb so I'll ask Dean about the brake fluid change then if you want?

Awesome thanks mate - yeah a price would be handy. Although they're a tad far as I'm in Northampton.... But getting a quote wouldn't hurt.

 

[Westy]

Well last year on 17.5% VAT I was quoted £152.75 all in for the labour to change the braided lines, front discs and pads, and do the fluid with me supplying all the parts so that should give you a rough idea of how much they'll charge just for a hose and fluid change.

I do happen to have a set of goodrich braided lines going spare. They are off of S3baby's old brakes and are only 10 months old.

 

[Reesy]

Did S3baby take them off due to a brake upgrade??

 

[Westy]

Did S3baby take them off due to a brake upgrade??

Yeah he bought some Brembo 4 pots the lucky sod.

 

[Reesy]

I know that braided hoses make a big difference on bikes, but what difference do you get on the car, I thought the ABS unit was the restricting factor?

 

[Westy]

They just stop the hose under the braid from expanding when hot. Along with decent brake fluid you'll notice the difference.