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My S4 thread

scotty76 Mar 12, 2015

  1. scotty76

    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    This is my attempt to gather together all the threads I have related to my car so far and to update it as an ongoing record (when I remember - I forget a lot/am busy/have kids/things happen).

    So why an S4? I can't afford an RS4 and I've already had a remapped 2.0 TFSI albeit in B7 guise. I need to lug kids and their kit. I don't think there are many things that tick the boxes the S4 does. I don't mind putting petrol in but really 15mpg is not for me. I don't want a BMW, they are RWD and I don't like the interior. And should I want it there are many tuning options for the S4. I won't be looking at these in warranty but I like the option.

    Pre-purchase mullings
    http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/thread...4-wtf-do-some-people-do-to-their-cars.212552/

    The painful wait, with fellow ASN members:
    http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/the-s4-build-wait-thread.214174/

    1000 mile review
    http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/s4-1000-mile-mini-review.226733/

    Coolant loss (maybe)
    http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/coolant-loss.229588/

    Annoying boot panel
    http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/panel-in-boot-keeps-popping-open.239509/

    Other stuff.
    Current average fuel consumption: 23.2mpg (official figures total fantasy, 31mpg was my best ever)
    Fuel: Shell Fuel Save (95 RON)
    Car coating: CQuartz Finest
    Wheels: CarPro DLUX
     
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  3. longp2

    longp2 Active Member

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    Even if you could afford an RS4 would you swap now? I wouldn't
     
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  4. scotty76

    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    No. I don't think they are worth the money. Might be wrong but I'll never know. :)
     
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  5. scotty76

    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Keef Well-Known Member Team Daytona Audi S4

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    Have you noticed that this section of the forum seems to have gone S4 crazy lately!? :jump:
    Soo many posts bout S4's:thumbs up:
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Yeah it's great to see all the new S4 owners. Perhaps I should have started an S4 owners thread instead.
     
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  8. elpeterol

    elpeterol Active Member Audi S4

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    Might be a good idea. Just out of interest which tyres do you have and how are they wearing? I've got conti 3s and I'm not impressed, after 8000 miles down to just under 5mm front and just over on the rear, they are now starting to get quite noisy too. No I don't drive very hard!
    Next tyres Goodyear asymmetric 2 I reckon.
     
  9. benjie

    benjie Well-Known Member

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    Thank god you said that. I'm on 3.5mm front after 11000miles, I thought I was doing something wrong! I have Conti Sport Contact 5. Not sure what to go for next, Ihave very little tyre experience to be honest. I hear Vresden's(sp?) are excellent for grip and terrible for wear.
     
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    opelfruit Well-Known Member TeamMisano Audi S4

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    I'm also at the point of looking for new tires for my S4 Avant. It's got conti sport contact 3s and the wear has been average.

    I'll be getting Vredestein Ultrac Vorti's on next. Heard fantastic things about them and wear was not a downside. The only negative I've heard is they are not great for fuel due to higher rolling resistance, but I can live with that...fuel consumption wasn't at the top of my list when I bought my S4 and I only do 5k per year max.

    £114 per tire for 19's online too ;-)
     
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    benjie Well-Known Member

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    They were on the car when I bought it and were very good, I thought they were far more expensive than that.
     
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    longp2 Active Member

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    Just swapped out my second set of conti 3s for Goodyear assymetrics, hopefully these will wear a bit slower than the contis.
    So far they feel great, cost wise they were £610 for 4 fitted.
     
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  14. opelfruit

    opelfruit Well-Known Member TeamMisano Audi S4

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    Vredesteins are. Usually around £200-£230 a corner, but I'll be getting my from tireleader and fitted by my local tire fitter.....much cheaper as I'll need all 4 doing and don't want to have to remortgage the house or sell the kids.
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    So, 3300 miles. 6mm tread on the fronts, 7mm on the rear.
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    What depth do new tryes start at?
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Never mind...

    So 3300 miles used 2mm of tread so say further 4mm before swapping would suggest a probable life of 9900 miles for the fronts.

    1mm used on the rears would give 19800 miles for the rears (I doubt that somehow).
     
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    benjie Well-Known Member

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    Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to say the wear was bad, I meant the fuel economy. But that's irrelevant.
     
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    benjie Well-Known Member

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    That sounds a bit ropey! Interesting you mention the Kumhos as I used them on my A4 quattro and they were brilliant. I was considering them for my S4, but not sure how they would handle in a 300+hp car.
     
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  21. elpeterol

    elpeterol Active Member Audi S4

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    Tyre wear generally slows down a bit but I reckon about 12000 absolute max on mine.
     
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    weekenny Active Member

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    I get 27mpg on my stage 2 car on vpower. Can't comment on a std car I bought it mapped.
     
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  23. scotty76

    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Thanks for sharing. I use mine for commuting so never get great economy. I know from my Dad taxi duties that town driving hammers the economy. My best ever mpg was based on a 220 mile motorway run at steady speed. So I still think there's fantasy in the official figures but I don't think that's news. :)

    Good to know a stage 2 sounds no worse. Thanks again!
     
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    weekenny Active Member

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    I agree about the factory mpg. I'd suggest running it on better fuel all the same.
     
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  25. razza1

    razza1 Well-Known Member

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    Only get decent (ish) mpg if cruising at 60-70 speeds, anything else and especially town driving, look out the window instead of the DIS ;)
     
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    weekenny Active Member

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    Oh yeah, grab a dipstick (£7). That daft mmi oil check is far and away the worst feature of the car.
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Fuel Consumption

    One that seems to get asked a fair bit is what is the real world fuel consumption. So here are my stats so far. My car is used for commuting which for me is (approx): 10 miles A road, 4 miles motorway, 2 miles of traffic.

    Current average over 3412 miles: 23.16mpg.
    Most miles between fill ups: 295 miles.

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  28. Bristle Hound

    Bristle Hound Moderator Staff Member Moderator MQB Platform

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    Cheers Scotty :thumbs up:

    About what I expected TBH

    No super unleaded then my friend? :think:
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    BH I've thought about the super but the fuel flap says 95 / 91 min. My B7 said 98 / 95 min though of course the dealers never tell the punters it really needs super. The standard S4 feels fine with normal unleaded. Whereas the T FSI always felt better on super as that's what it was designed for.

    May try 3 tank fulls to compare just for an experiment.
     
  30. jdp1962

    jdp1962 Grumpy Old Moderator Staff Member Moderator TFSI Owners Group Team V6 Gold Supporter Team Tornado Audi S4 Black Edition quattro S tronic

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    That's interesting, Scotty. I just assumed I'd be returning to Shell V-Power petrol but this suggests I needn't bother.
     
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  31. Bristle Hound

    Bristle Hound Moderator Staff Member Moderator MQB Platform

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    Must admit I was / am going down the Shell V-power route, so will be interested to see you findings Scotty :thumbs up:
     
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    razza1 Well-Known Member

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    Tesco 99 here with the remap...only use 95 in real emergency
     
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    nice looking car...

    :encouragement:
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    Yep and that makes sense for a remapped car.
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    OK, so in the interests of science I'll try it. 3 tanks of VPower and let's see what the stats are. You'll have to be patient though, I only fill up every 3-4 weeks. :)
     
  37. Bristle Hound

    Bristle Hound Moderator Staff Member Moderator MQB Platform

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    Just hoping I may have my S4 before the end of your evaluation period Scotty :jump:
     
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  38. jdp1962

    jdp1962 Grumpy Old Moderator Staff Member Moderator TFSI Owners Group Team V6 Gold Supporter Team Tornado Audi S4 Black Edition quattro S tronic

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    I hate you!
     
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  39. elpeterol

    elpeterol Active Member Audi S4

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    I run mine on vpower, bp ultimate or tesco99 and find that shell is marginally the best. Average over 8000 miles 28mpg, best 33 on clogged up m5 with miles of 50 limits worst 26 in winter with shorter trips. Never put in ordinary petrol so no idea about it - justs seems wrong!
     
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  40. Bristle Hound

    Bristle Hound Moderator Staff Member Moderator MQB Platform

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    LOL :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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  41. jdp1962

    jdp1962 Grumpy Old Moderator Staff Member Moderator TFSI Owners Group Team V6 Gold Supporter Team Tornado Audi S4 Black Edition quattro S tronic

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    I need to start making a shopping list of bits and bobs to add to the S4 when it arrives. I've already acquired a set of "supercharged" badges to replace the V6T ones on the flanks. I'll also need to get a pair of ice-white halogen foglight bulbs from @t8ups. But what else? I'm fancying some 4-ring tyre valve caps, UK pressed metal number plates, an R8 oil cap and Porsche coolant cap to perk the engine bay up a bit, then there's the interior lighting.

    I know from Warren's S5 build that he sourced a full interior LED kit from T8ups, but according to the latest brochure, mine will come with LED interior lighting. But I don't know how extensive it will be. That's where you come in @scotty76. So I know what I will need to order from @t8ups, , can you tell me what is and is not LED on your car? For example, glovebox, boot, rear number plate etc. etc?

    Ta, Jeff
     
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    scotty76 Well-Known Member Team Phantom Audi S4

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    @jdp1962 it's an odd mix!

    LED: footwell lighting. Number plate lights.

    Not-LED: fog lights, interior lighting, boot light.

    This is how it is on my 2014 car. Perhaps someone with a newer car can confirm what the latest models have?
     
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    t8ups Site Sponsor Site Sponsor VCDS Map User

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    on the latest cars, numberplate lights are LED and so are the footwells.

    you would need to complete the white look is the fogs and interior kit.

    Trups
     
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