Missing subwoofer adjustment control

[DJAlix]

Thanks for the offer @DJAlix I don't get to travel very far due to work commitments.

where are you based?

 

[mark holloway]

where are you based?

Cardiff

 

[DJAlix]

Cardiff

added to my list of locations. if I am gonna be working or passing by I will message.

 

[mark holloway]

added to my list of locations. if I am gonna be working or passing by I will message.

Thank you. I it something VCDS can sort out as I do have that?

 

[DJAlix]

Thank you. I it something VCDS can sort out as I do have that?

ultimately no... but there is one thing you can check in the long coding of your 5F:

-Byte 04 = FF
-Byte 05 = 0A

 

[mark holloway]

ultimately no... but there is one thing you can check in the long coding of your 5F:

-Byte 04 = FF
-Byte 05 = 0A

I will check that later.
I did make a couple of basic adjustments with VCDS, but nothing that I would think would effect the sub control (reverse PDC visual display, activation of the voice function in convertible, needle sweep, oil temp)

 

[DJAlix]

I will check that later.
I did make a couple of basic adjustments with VCDS, but nothing that I would think would effect the sub control (reverse PDC visual display, activation of the voice function in convertible, needle sweep, oil temp)

You have a cabriolet?

 

[mark holloway]

You have a cabriolet?

Yes.

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Audi Phone Box £325
Heated front seats £260
Audi sound system £255
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[mark holloway]

ultimately no... but there is one thing you can check in the long coding of your 5F:

-Byte 04 = FF
-Byte 05 = 0A

I have
Byte 04 = FF
Byte 05 = 08

 

[DJAlix]

Yes.

Optional Equipment Description Price When New (inc VAT)
Technology Package £1,495
19" x 8J '5-arm "Wing"' design high gloss titanium alloy wheels with 235/35 R19 tyres £995
Fine Nappa leather £795
Comfort package £690
LED headlights £645
Metallic paint £525
Audi Phone Box £325
Heated front seats £260
Audi sound system £255
Electric lumbar support £195
Interior light pack £170
Door mirrors - electrically folding £150
Total Price of Optional Equipment £6,500

Well that's interesting as my experience is that the subwoofer control is not available for PFL cabriolet cars. I have retrofitted a couple and while the sub works the control menu would not "pop".

 

[mark holloway]

Well that's interesting as my experience is that the subwoofer control is not available for PFL cabriolet cars. I have retrofitted a couple and while the sub works the control menu would not "pop".

OK, so I have searched around my car, under the seats, boot well and can't find a subwoofer but my MMI did have a control for it once, the only other thing that I have done is update the navigation map via sd card download from MyAudi.

 

[DJAlix]

OK, so I have searched around my car, under the seats, boot well and can't find a subwoofer but my MMI did have a control for it once, the only other thing that I have done is update the navigation map via sd card download from MyAudi.

Send me your vin number or reg please and I will do some investigation when in line in a couple of hours.

 

[larbel]

I finally retrofitted B&O to my PFL with MMI2 and A.S.S. that was missing the sub control today, and as expected, I got sub control back after B&O is installed and coded. But to my surprise, the sub is no way near as punchy as PFLs even when the sub turned to full.. Audi might have toned it down to prevent compliant for rear shelf rattle, and the reason why FL A.S.S.' sub control is gone...

My PFL slightly tweaked A.S.S. before my MMI2 though has much lower output sounds better and punchier than the FL B&O... Has anyone compared PFL & FL B&O side by side can confirm?

 

[mark holloway]

Send me your vin number or reg please and I will do some investigation when in line in a couple of hours.

PM'd you Alix

 

[ivelliosy]

If you've mentioned it previously then I apologise for not having noticed, but is this to rectify the missing sub control on an ***-equipped car or a B&O one?

I hope it's the former rather than the latter, because if it is, there might be a light at the end of the tunnel that isn't a train coming the other way.

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Hey there! It's been over a year. Have you had a solution for subwoofer control in A_S_S Facelift yet ? I put some dynamat to my saloon's rear deck, however I missed my PFL vehicle's sound system .

Cheers.

 

[Khufu]

Hey there! It's been over a year. Have you had a solution for subwoofer control in A_S_S Facelift yet ? I put some dynamat to my saloon's rear deck, however I missed my PFL vehicle's sound system .

Cheers.

im sure they wont bother fixing it now, the new model is round the corner.... I would like it back too. Maybe some clever Russians will hack the firmware and get it working lol.

 

[Wezango]

I have a 2017 A3 with B&O. Today went to dealer, here in Ireland and they said that my chassis number is not included to this TSB. I wrote an email to Audi Ireland. Will see what they will reply. As I understand, it is a basic MMI update, right? Is there any other excuse to provide to a dealer, so they can update my MMI?
Right now, B&O sound quality is almost same as my previous Seat Leon with basic 8 speaker system. All this door rattle driving me nuts.

 

[mikemod]

I got mine enabled just before the warranty ran out, after a lot of persuasion.. asked on two previous occasions without success. (B&O)

The changes they made to mine were as follows

Address 47: Sound System (J525)

Old:
Part No SW: 81A 035 466 HW: 81A 035 466
Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0100
New:
Part No SW: 81A 035 466 B HW: 81A 035 466
Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0440

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)

Old:
Part No SW: 8V1 035 035 HW: 8V1 035 035
Component: MU-P-LND-EU 052 0679
New:
Part No SW: 8V1 035 035 D HW: 8V1 035 035
Component: MU-P-LND-EU 052 1168

I couldn't believe the difference in sound, now sounds like my sound system had been in a box and now it's out !!
Three years without the sub woofer, I nearly asked them for a refund on the option.

 

[Wezango]

I got mine enabled just before the warranty ran out, after a lot of persuasion.. asked on two previous occasions without success. (B&O)

The changes they made to mine were as follows

Address 47: Sound System (J525)

Old:
Part No SW: 81A 035 466 HW: 81A 035 466
Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0100
New:
Part No SW: 81A 035 466 B HW: 81A 035 466
Component: MIB2_amp_P_A3 H10 0440

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)

Old:
Part No SW: 8V1 035 035 HW: 8V1 035 035
Component: MU-P-LND-EU 052 0679
New:
Part No SW: 8V1 035 035 D HW: 8V1 035 035
Component: MU-P-LND-EU 052 1168

I couldn't believe the difference in sound, now sounds like my sound system had been in a box and now it's out !!
Three years without the sub woofer, I nearly asked them for a refund on the option.

Wait...So they literally changed some parts in your car, just to get the subwoofer control? So it’s not just a software update?

 

[mikemod]

No, those just show the new software version for each component, the hardware versions remain the same.

 

[Wezango]

No, those just show the new software version for each component, the hardware versions remain the same.

I guess thats because you had software version 0679 before the update, which can be updated to 1168. My unit has software version 0191, that seems like can be updated only to 0192, which do not add subwoofer control

 

[Wezango]

So I contacted Audi Ireland and they told me I can go to dealer and they will update my MMI. Now it's updated to version 0235 (0191 previously) and I finally have the subwoofer control.

 

[Smurf S3]

So just to confirm, the dealership should be able to check for a software update if I go and ask about this? I’m in the states.

 

[DJAlix]

For anyone looking to have these updates performed outside of a dealership I now have the official firmware in stock.

 

[Smurf S3]

For anyone looking to have these updates performed outside of a dealership I now have the official firmware in stock.

I’d love to. How do we do this?

 

[DJAlix]

So just to confirm, the dealership should be able to check for a software update if I go and ask about this? I’m in the states.

Correct, but them knowing how to check is another question

 

[DJAlix]

I’d love to. How do we do this?

Unfortunately you are in the USA so I cannot assist

 

[Smurf S3]

Unfortunately you are in the USA so I cannot assist

awwww mannnn. Why is that?

 

[DJAlix]

awwww mannnn. Why is that?

Google says London is approx 4484 from the USA. My official VW Group Service Tool cable is approx 1.5meters so won't reach

USA firmware will also be different the EU, often with different version numbers also.

 

[Smurf S3]

Google says London is approx 4484 from the USA. My official VW Group Service Tool cable is approx 1.5meters so won't reach

USA firmware will also be different the EU, often with different version numbers also.

ok. Is there any way to download an update and do it myself?

 

[DJAlix]

ok. Is there any way to download an update and do it myself?

There are unofficial sources around the internet but using one outside of the official update procedure would void any warranty you have. I would also be very wary of downloading something like this from the internet as :

1) updates need to be completed while your vehicle is connected to a power maintainer.
2) if downloaded firmware contains any corrupted data there is a danger that you might brick your media unit.

Point 2 is important as your media unit does more than just play music, it controls many functions in your car as are not cheap to replace.

 

[Smurf S3]

There are unofficial sources around the internet but using one outside of the official update procedure would void any warranty you have. I would also be very wary of downloading something like this from the internet as :

1) updates need to be completed while your vehicle is connected to a power maintainer.
2) if downloaded firmware contains any corrupted data there is a danger that you might brick your media unit.

Point 2 is important as your media unit does more than just play music, it controls many functions in your car as are not cheap to replace.

got it. Thanks for the help. I was hoping the subwoofer control was a simple as some VCDS coding.

 

[DJAlix]

got it. Thanks for the help. I was hoping the subwoofer control was a simple as some VCDS coding.

Unfortunately not. VCDS is of almost no use even if you are retrofitting the Audi Sound System let alone trying to add a subwoofer control. I would speak to your local dealership / specialist and have them find the related TPI document and this will tell them the steps needed.

 

[Mikeyd1]

Unfortunately not. VCDS is of almost no use even if you are retrofitting the Audi Sound System let alone trying to add a subwoofer control. I would speak to your local dealership / specialist and have them find the related TPI document and this will tell them the steps needed.

Hi sorry to jump in but I’m happy to upay if u can do this for me. Where abouts in London are u based.the sub u wouldn’t know it’s even there. Thanks

 

[DJAlix]

Hi sorry to jump in but I’m happy to upay if u can do this for me. Where abouts in London are u based.the sub u wouldn’t know it’s even there. Thanks

I am based in Muswell hill, north London. Send me a pm, I will finally have time to reply to messages from tomorrow

 

[Mikeyd1]

I am based in Muswell hill, north London. Send me a pm, I will finally have time to reply to messages from tomorrow

I did send a couple of pms to ya already but not sure if u got them or not,

 

[DJAlix]

I did send a couple of pms to ya already but not sure if u got them or not,

Will be replying to messages most of the day tomorrow

 

[Mikeyd1]

Will be replying to messages most of the day tomorrow

Nice one there a few things I’m interested in The pm I sent you is subject front sensors,

 

[MarttiMat]

So just to confirm, the dealership should be able to check for a software update if I go and ask about this? I’m in the states.

My 2017 S3 had the missing sub woofer control when I picked it up. A year later and they finally had the software update for it (MIB2 high with Nav). It was flashed under warranty. You should have no issues getting it done stateside as long as you are in warranty and mention there is a software update for it. Outside of warranty they will charge you labor to perform the update.

 

[Smurf S3]

My 2017 S3 had the missing sub woofer control when I picked it up. A year later and they finally had the software update for it (MIB2 high with Nav). It was flashed under warranty. You should have no issues getting it done stateside as long as you are in warranty and mention there is a software update for it. Outside of warranty they will charge you labor to perform the update.

Great. THank you