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Mirror Link your phone onto your MMI????

holmefield Jul 11, 2017

  1. holmefield

    holmefield Active Member

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    Right folks im interested in doing this mirror link thing thats been done loads over on Audizine, the thread starter is below, but with it been an American site i was wondering if anybody in the uk has done it?

    If yes did you use a similar setup to whats listed below?

    Im on Android Galaxy S7, so just need slightly different wiring to make it work.

    Heres the tread and whats needed...cheers


    **UPDATED**
    Thanks everyone for feedback to this post, I have updated these instructions to reflect the suggestions below and the requests for additional clarification.

    Instructions: External Video Input to MMI Screen/Phone Mirroring

    With a few simple parts, you can plug and play your phone (or even iPad, Roku, Apple TV) to mirror on the dash MMI screen. I installed this on my B8.5 S5, and the results are great. There will be lots of cables/wires/adapters involved, but it is an easy job and will cost you less than $200 and only a few minutes to install. I wrote this for mirroring my iPhone 6S, but it will work with any phone that has a video out adapter. Since the folks at Apple are greedy-planned-obsolescence-proprietary-cord scumbags, the Apple Lightning-to-HDMI adapter will cost $50, where those lucky to have a Droid phone will only need to spend half of that amount.


    Car: B8.5 S5 (manual FTMFW!)
    MMI Version: 3G+ w/Nav
    Difficulty: 0.5 beer (0 beers being easy, 12 beers being a full day job)
    Time: Less than 1 play-through of the song In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
    Cost: $150 - $200 depending on iPhone vs. Droid.
    Why: I mostly use it to run Waze through the MMI screen when I drive long trips. Praise Jebus for Waze.
    What it will do: Mirror your phone screen to the MMI screen. Do not attempt to stream Fast & Furious to your screen, your Audi will self destruct.
    What it won’t do: Allow you to listen to FM/Sirius/Jukebox/SD card music in your Audi while the video is mirroring. This kit ports the video AND sound to your car, so for music you have to also run music off your phone. Which is fine by me since I usually stream internet radio in the car (recommend Radioparadise.com) or MP3s on the phone (recommend Porcupine Tree).

    ** Before you start: You will need to have enabled the Video-in-motion (VIM) feature on your Audi through a VAG-Com. It is an easy hack, and there are lots of FAQs/resources online about how to do it. You just need to have the Ross Tech VAG-Com cable/software , or find a friendly Audi owner who will do it for you (I enjoy helping local VW/Audi people hack their cars with my VAG-Com).


    What you'll need:
    Audi AMI RCA Cable Adapter (I bought OEM since some people had compatibility issues with the knockoff ebay/Amazon cables): LINK $80 (thanks Pierre at West Palm Beach Audi!)
    [​IMG]

    RCA-to-HDMI Adapter: AMAZON $34
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    3 RCA Male-to-Male Adapter: AMAZON $7
    [​IMG]

    Apple iPhone to HMDI out adapter: LINK $49 (if you have a droid phone, you will be able to pick up a much cheaper droid version of this part)
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    Short HDMI Cable: Short HDMI Cable: AMAZON $7
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    Dual Port Power Outlet: AMAZON $13
    NOTE: You need to have 2 charging cables; 1 mini USB to charge the RCA-to-HDMI converter (required for converter to work), and another that plugs into the iPhone lighting to HDMI adapter (optional, but recommended since you will want the phone to charge while mirroring). With both of those, the phone will charge while you mirror the screen.
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    iPhone Lightning Extension Cable (Optional): AMAZON $33
    (be careful, cheaper generic ones will NOT work, I've tried)
    [​IMG]



    Here's a quick summary of the installation:


    Here are all the wires you need laid out:
    (note: I am not showing the Lightning extension cable that I have running through the roof of the glove box down into the ashtray for a seamless & clean install)

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    Instruction Steps:

    1. In your glove box, install the Audi AMI/MMI RCA adapter.

    2. Plug the 3 RCA wires into the RCA-to-HDMI adapter (you'll need 3 of the RCA male-to-male adapters). Make sure the RCA-to-HDMI adapter switch is set to NTSC.

    3. Plug the short HDMI cable into the RCA-to-HDMI adapter, and plug the other end of the HDMI cable into the Apple iPhone Lightning-to-HDMI adapter.

    4. Plug the Apple Lightning-to-HDMI adapter into your iPhone, or what I did was install a Lightning extension cable, so you can then run the extension cable behind the glove box and down into the center console. I have my cable coming up into my ashtray so I can leave my phone there to charge while I use the adapters.

    5. Once you have it all plugged in and powered, go into the Settings menu (while in Media), and scroll down for the options to switch the input to NTSC (vs. PAL) and 16:9 aspect ratio. In my experience, the phone mirror function would not work when I used PAL and the screen would be compressed if you chose 4:3 ratio.

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    Here are the wires installed in the glove box:

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    If successful, you should now see this new menu option in the Media Source menu:

    [​IMG]


    Here is the phone mirroring Waze:

    [​IMG]


    Here is the phone mirroring the web:

    [​IMG]

    You can still make and receive calls as if the phone was directly connected to the MMI via the AMI Phone cable or as if the phone was connected via Bluetooth:
    [​IMG]

    One part of the install you can't see here is the iPhone cable I have running up through the roof of the glove box, under the center console and into the ashtray. Next step is for me to install a power source in the glove box so I do not have to run the 2 charging cables and dual power outlet into the ashtray power outlet. I'll get to that in the near future.

    Additional notes:
    - This setup requires that both sound and video be utilized from your phone, which means that you can't listen to XM while mirroring your phone. For me, I run Waze while also streaming music off my iPhone at the same time.
    - You can substitute other devices for the iPhone; such as a Droid phone, Roku (it's been done), Apple TV (it's been done!), iPad, etc

    Now you can impress friends/cops/lovers with your car that has Waze built in to the infotainment center.

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...nal-Video-Input-to-MMI-Screen-Phone-Mirroring
     
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  3. holmefield

    holmefield Active Member

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    Just bumping this up....

    I've also read that you can do this wireless using a wifi hub in your car????
     
  4. KUHESH THIRUNATHAN

    KUHESH THIRUNATHAN New Member

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    Hi

    I'm Kuhesh, I have an A5 Sline 2014 model. is that possible to get this set done on my car?
     
  5. olivaman30

    olivaman30 New Member

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    I'm using a Galaxy S9 and going wireless. I cut out the HDMI cable by using a Screen Beam mini 2. So using an OEM AMI-RCA adapter (4F0051510AA), an HDMI to RCA Converter and plugging a Screen Beam mini 2 into that I can cast my screen to the MMI screen.

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  6. olivaman30

    olivaman30 New Member

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    Some have said this works as long as you are have the 3G+ installed with NAV

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  7. Nathan Wolfe

    Nathan Wolfe New Member

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    So I’ve bought all the correct cables and hooked them up as directed. I only get a black screen with no video or audio. I’ve gone everything very well and no idea why I can’t get a mirror image on my MMI screen. I have a 14 A6 Quattro TDI using an iPhone X to link up to it.
     
  8. holmefield

    holmefield Active Member

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    I gave up to it as I couldnt get it to work..
     
  9. Nathan Wolfe

    Nathan Wolfe New Member

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    ? Soo I’m confused. Aren’t you the one who wrote this entire thread? And you never got it to work? Looks like it’s working in pictures you provided at the end. I invested a lot of money on these cords, I was expecting this to work based on this highly detailed thread stating that this is how it’s done.
     
  10. olivaman30

    olivaman30 New Member

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    There was another guy named Longwolf on the audizine forum who was the original author of the post with the pictures.
    On a side note, if you do not know anyone with a VAGcom and your local Audi dealer won't turn on VIM (video in motion) for you and if you want to Shell out another$100 or so you can buy yourself the OBDeleven device. This device let's you plug into your OBD2 Port and if you own an Android phone you can connect to it and make some modifications to your vehicle, like turning on VIM. Be advised some people have said you don't need to buy the pro version unless you need extra coding. If so, you can purchase it through the Google app store. Also, to make modifications requires credits and you will need to purchase at least 90 to turn on VIM.

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  11. Nathan Wolfe

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    I have already activated video in motion. And I have personal VCDS. Also Im iPhone so the OBDeleven is useless to me.
     
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  13. holmefield

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    I copied the thread, from another forum, i got it working just about but was in black and white and very hit and miss, and Samsung S7 doesnt support rSap i think its called.

    So it wasnt going to work for me, i now Have A7 with Tech pack High and have tryed getting it working using the Ami cable and also trying a chrome cast and again had very little luck.

    I spent about £60 and hours trying to figure it out but after two different cars ( A5 and A7 ) and still not getting it working anywhere near reliably i gave up to it..

    If anybody knows how to get it working with an samsung S7 reliably and able to either cast or mirror link my phone to display im all ears
     
  14. olivaman30

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    Hopefully you find this helpful. I will just post the pictures up. Pretty straightforward.
    Buy genuine Audi ami/rca adapter. Buy screenbeam mini 2. Buy 3 male to male rca coupler adapters. Buy HDMI to rca converter, I chose the ViewHD because I didn't want to go cheap because I wanted the best quality and wanted to make sure this would work. Plus the AMI adapter into the plug. Put the couplers onto the rca cables. Plus the RCA cables into the ViewHD converter. Plug the screenbeam into the HDMI port of the converter. Plug in the USB power cords. Hit media on your console and select source as external video input. Turn on your device's smart view or screen mirror option and you should be off and running. I can't make this any simpler. I included the picture of the OBDeleven device to remind you that you do need VIM (Video in motion) turned on in your settings. I can't answer any questions because this is pretty much it.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  15. RAF_S7

    RAF_S7 Well-Known Member Team V8 Gold Supporter Team Sepang Audi S7 A7 Owner Group Black Edition

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    See my post here.

    Not Mirror Link, but interesting development....

    I’m still learning how much can be done :racer:
     
  16. olivaman30

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    Yeah, you're on that 2017 4G. I'm still driving my 2014 A6 with 3G. I've only tried the voice commands for the built in NAV to enter directions as I do have the wifi enabled in the car. This was also prior to mirroring my phone to the MMI.

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  17. RAF_S7

    RAF_S7 Well-Known Member Team V8 Gold Supporter Team Sepang Audi S7 A7 Owner Group Black Edition

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    I’m in a late 2015, 2016MY S7 so I don’t have CarPlay.

    I had voice control on my 2014 A7 (MMI 3G High) but there was no mobile voice integration around then, only voice control for MMI actions.

    What happens with your phone Bluetooth connected, and you long press the speak button on the steering wheel? (Without mirroring enabled) Do you get any voice control over your connected device?
     
  18. olivaman30

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    When I long press the talk button nothing happens. I'm also running Pie on my Galaxy S9. It does not turn on Android connect automatically when the Bluetooth syncs. Sorry pressing the talk button will allow me to do the standard speech for navigation and such.

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  19. RAF_S7

    RAF_S7 Well-Known Member Team V8 Gold Supporter Team Sepang Audi S7 A7 Owner Group Black Edition

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    Have you downloaded the Android Auto onto your phone?
     
  20. MrA7Asim

    MrA7Asim New Member

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    Hey I am just new, and even i just bought all the the wires and original Apple lightning Lead, and tried all the settings with PAL/NTFS and screen settings
    16:9 format, i cant either get picture ore video on my A7 , 2010 model, with Iphone 7.

    Is it that the RCA adapter cable should be original also maybe??? I have unlocked the vim, i can see video while i am driving.

    Really also someone help, how come it dont work on A7....
     
  21. MrA7Asim

    MrA7Asim New Member

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    Hey I am just new, and even i just bought all the the wires and original Apple lightning Lead, and tried all the settings with PAL/NTFS and screen settings 16:9 format, i cant either get picture ore video on my A7 , 2010 model, with Iphone 7.

    Is it that the RCA adapter cable should be original also maybe??? I have unlocked the vim, i can see video while i am driving.

    Really also someone help, how come it dont work on A7....

    I actually followed this guys video:



    Could really good if someone can see what the problem is that I cant get mirror Iphone on my A7..

    Thanks in advance
     
  22. MrA7Asim

    MrA7Asim New Member

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    FINALLY IT WORKS ON A7 2012, same way like this, it was my USB to the adapter which did not work. So great now:)
     
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  23. Howardfly

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    Hello

    In order to use the cast dongle the screenbeam mini 2 does the car have to have a sim card a internet connection installed in it to work?
     
  24. olivaman30

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    In answer to your question. No wifi is needed in the vehicle. It works like a Chromecast. It will be detectable by your phone.

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  25. Howardfly

    Howardfly New Member

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    Thanks buddy, just trying to find some alternatives to yours as im in the uk abit hard
     
  26. Howardfly

    Howardfly New Member

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    As my A3 doesnt have a sim card slot so justed wanted to ask if i can still use a casting dongle to do what you did oliva but from what you said i can
     
  27. Howardfly

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    @olivaman

    Is there anything I need to do to the MMI system in the car itself or will this just work straight away and display the phone's display after connecting everything up

    Thanks
     
  28. olivaman30

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    If everything is done correctly you should see the screen beam image first when you switch to external video source. The biggest thing is to make sure you were able to activate video in motion whether it be through VCDS, VAGCom or ODBeleven. Nothing to be done to the MMI. Just follow the above images in this thread. I'm not sure what kind of drastic differences there are in the UK. I will say one thing. My screen beam came with an HDMI extender. Do not use it. For some reason the integrity of the signal is lost and I only received a blue screen when switching to external video when using the extender.

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  29. Howardfly

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    With the OB eleven do I need a pro subscription to unlock the vim as im looking at the dongle u plug in and use their phone app to unlock it.thanks
     
  30. olivaman30

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    If you are using the OBDeleven you will need the Pro version as that is the one that will enable you to change basic settings. The normal and pro version are the same device, just a difference in activation license.

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  31. pstonge

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    This is an awesome set up. Waiting for my ScreenBeam to arrive tomorrow. Was wondering one thing. Are you able to still charge your phone with this set up.? I only have two USB ports on my car charger adapter and one is in use for the SB and the other for the VGA adapter. Thanks.
     
  32. olivaman30

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    I only have 2 USB ports as well. I actually had to add another cigarette lighter adapter to the rear outlet and run a wire up to charge the phone. I ordered a twin socket to put both adapters in the center console then.

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  34. pstonge

    pstonge New Member

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    Great idea. Do you know if they sell a good cigarette lighter adapter with 3 USB ports?
     
  35. pstonge

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    Just read the specs for ScreenBeam. It does not work with iOS. Any way to get it to work? Any other similar device that does play well with Apple? Thanks.
     
  36. szkodnik

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    I checked the whole subject, I have one question before I do anything ... my Audi a4 b8 2010 and there is no navigation only symphony audio system. is there a chance to connect it ???
     
  37. Kondax

    Kondax Well-Known Member Team Glacier Gold Supporter Audi S4 Black Edition

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    For what it's worth, if anybody has an iPhone and their car is equipped with Carplay you can mirror your screen onto the car for about $6 (if your phone is jailbroken / you're able to jailbreak it).
     
  38. szkodnik

    szkodnik New Member

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    you can write something more about it. what I have to buy and how to connect ???

    Thanks
     
  39. Howardfly

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    After mirroring the device would it be possible loading the android auto app on the smartphone and using the mmi wheel to navigate through the menu?
     
  40. Howardfly

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    Basically after mirroring are you able to navigate using the audi interface wheel through the android auto app or is this not possible, your just using the mirror to see the phone screen and not able to intervene.

    Like this
     

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