Ok so it’s time to start the game of tennis with the dealer that is buying a new car, put it off too long and missed out on the 9.25 or whatever you want to call it so am stuck with the touch screen. My MY17 had a few boxes ticked and now find myself having to spec a Vorsprung to get the options I want - the first quote came as a bit of a shock but I’ve calmed down now and am thinking logically again. Anyhow, my question relates to the 35 and 40 diesels. Currently I have a 190 and love it, unfortunately to go with the same again it now only comes as a Quattro which I’ve never felt I’ve needed grip wise. It has another gearbox to service/weighs 100kg more and is barely 0.5 second quicker to 60 than mine not to mention dearer to tax. The 163 is marginally down on torque but it sits sort of half way between mine and the new 40 I guess, gets similar economy to mine and is 2k cheaper. So let me hear your thoughts on what side of this fence you would be on - if you’ve gone from a 190 to a 163 I’d love to hear your feedback, dealer only had a 30 demonstrator so couldn’t test one.