I'm also wondering why I sold mine, I could of turned it into a monster, lol, but I have to say the A3 has pleasantly surprised me overall, really has.
You can always go back!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/910943.htm
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I'm also wondering why I sold mine, I could of turned it into a monster, lol, but I have to say the A3 has pleasantly surprised me overall, really has.
Thanks!
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I Really am let down & disappointed by the major lack of difference between the new A3 and the new S3. Audi lost the overall point when making the new shape imo of course.
Yes it does look stunning and yes it does have nice lines but Audi Sport appeal it does NOT have. The front end is really really nice, as is the back, although i think if they put the sportback rear end on the non sportback S3 it would be wayyyyy nicer, subtle differences make S Audi's all the more desirable. The same thing can't be said about the sides though. The lines are completely lost on the new shape, no flared arches, no agressive stance unless you are looking at the front.
The above is all that is stopping me from getting into a new S3. I'm waiting for Audi to realise that S means big fat bodies and nice lines again before i commit to buying another.
RS models are a little out of my league money wise which is why i'll wait till i am in a better position to even contemplate another car.
For me my MK1 - facelifted S3 is gonna stay a while!
I agree with most of that.
When I replaced my 8L with my new S3 I was gutted the arches weren't flared and thought the standard seats were a let down too.
BUT - to drive, 8L versus 8P is no contest.
Audi have a price they have to pitch........
Thanks!
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I Really am let down & disappointed by the major lack of difference between the new A3 and the new S3. Audi lost the overall point when making the new shape imo of course.
Yes it does look stunning and yes it does have nice lines but Audi Sport appeal it does NOT have. The front end is really really nice, as is the back, although i think if they put the sportback rear end on the non sportback S3 it would be wayyyyy nicer, subtle differences make S Audi's all the more desirable. The same thing can't be said about the sides though. The lines are completely lost on the new shape, no flared arches, no agressive stance unless you are looking at the front.
The above is all that is stopping me from getting into a new S3. I'm waiting for Audi to realise that S means big fat bodies and nice lines again before i commit to buying another.
RS models are a little out of my league money wise which is why i'll wait till i am in a better position to even contemplate another car.
For me my MK1 - facelifted S3 is gonna stay a while!
Well i would assume that the two would be fairly hand in hand. You get a nice set of perfomance parts and put a nice shaped body/chassis on it (in short). Those are fundamentals of building a sports orientated car are they not.??So in brief - you like the ways cars LOOK rather the way they DRIVE.
To be honest I can't think of anything less "Audi-Sport" than that.
If your S3 looked like a brick would you buy it only knowing how well it drove......think not!
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Fair point Mr.G. I wouldn't no - but that's what every Impreza/Evo driver does because they are into the thrill of driving and looks don't mean a thing to them.
On the other hand you have those who would buy a Beetle or a Hyundai Coupe just for its looks even though they drive like a dog's dinner.
I agree the 8L looks better than the 8P.
I think the 8P drives better than the 8L.
But for me (though I do acknowledge other opinions) the "sport" tag must refer to performance first and foremost which makes the 8P a car with more "Audi Sport appeal" than the 8L. Only IMO of course.
Cracking thread this.
But you imply the 8P S3 is ugly.
It's not ugly, but agree it doesn't stand out as much as it could verus an S-line for example.
But would I have preferred Audi invest in the tooling to flare the arches versus investing in the engine and suspension adn therefore the way it drives? Nope.
Would I have preferred the S3 to cost £29k v £27k in order to accomodate the flared arches too... hmmmm probably not too.
I like the look of the car, I like the way it drives. Would I let the fact it didn't have flared arches put me off buying it? no way.... it's a great car to throw down your favourite piece of road!
Had RS4's been avaialble at £30k when I bought mine, would I have let the V8 rule my decision... probably!
How many people with £55K burning a hole in their pocket would buy an S3 and tinker with it rather than buying an RS4?
Because some people are ignorant of the facts mate.But off topic here but why is the A3 constantly referred to as a posh Golf?
But off topic here but why is the A3 constantly referred to as a posh Golf?
It is not that the Golf is a budget A3?
guys i have a way of settling this.
Look at the s3 as a short athletic guy who has taken a course of steroids and being training hard. He is now lifting a lot more and competing with the big guys.
The rs4 is a big chap who perhaps doesnt train as much as he used to but is naturally big.
Both guys are similar in strength but the smaller guy (s3) is prone to injuries and perhaps needs more supplements where as the big buy isnt really pushing himself but has more in the bag.
guys i have a way of settling this.
Look at the s3 as a short athletic guy who has taken a course of steroids and being training hard. He is now lifting a lot more and competing with the big guys.
The rs4 is a big chap who perhaps doesnt train as much as he used to but is naturally big.
Both guys are similar in strength but the smaller guy (s3) is prone to injuries and perhaps needs more supplements where as the big buy isnt really pushing himself but has more in the bag.
Pah, the RS4 is just a posh Passat with a big engine.
skipped thru most of this thread haha i do have a life!...anyways what about if.....you spend 5k tuning the RS4....now that would be awesome!!!!! besides, u can make any car go faster by throwing big money at it! but out the box....RS4 wins hands down IMO
I think you should all sell you S3's and RS4's and just get a diesel! then everyones happy!
skipped thru most of this thread haha i do have a life!...anyways what about if.....you spend 5k tuning the RS4....now that would be awesome!!!!! besides, u can make any car go faster by throwing big money at it! but out the box....RS4 wins hands down IMO
skipped thru most of this thread haha i do have a life!...anyways what about if.....you spend 5k tuning the RS4....now that would be awesome!!!!! besides, u can make any car go faster by throwing big money at it! but out the box....RS4 wins hands down IMO
Nice figures from a MK5. Not 4WD though so whats the point in bringing that into the equation???
LOL @ the pic of AUTOGLYM "the perfect finish" omg have they seen their products on a car?
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Nice figures from a MK5. Not 4WD though so whats the point in bringing that into the equation???
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Ooh...
JonnyC in controversial post shocker!!
Why not?
The general theme of the thread has been to highlight how how an S3 can `challenge`an RS4 with some mild tuning.
So why not bring some balance to the thread by pointing out that `lesser` cars can challenge an 8P S3 with some mild tuning in the same way?
Paul
Well considering at that event the 2wd GTi Ed30 with 360-370bhp was crossing the line 10mph faster than a 440bhp 4WD S3 everyday of the week it kind of puts in to context the 'real world' perforamce of a lot of these cars!
This thread started because an RS4 feels slower than an S3, why isn't the concept that a Golf can make both cars feel slow significant?
I find this thread an interesting one...
That said, if I had an RS4 in my drive I wouldnt lose a lot of sleep knowing that I could be challanged by an S3 or Golf (or whatever) on the way to work in the morning.........
Uhm as i just said, the power delivery is totally different, loosing traction in 1st with that sort of power throught the front wheels will obviously make the MK5 feel very quick as it's the experience of the noise, movement and once the car gains traction no doubt lurches forward..........etc etc
I'm saying that the S3 and RS4 are both 4WD so therefore have very similar ways of putting down the power and therefore feel very similar, the original post saying "Just driven an RS4..... Bit slow arn't they?".
I may add the owner of the thread has an Ibis White S3 Sportback - 365bhp - 350lb/ft Comparing his own "tuned" i might add, car, to that RS4 he'd driven.
I see no relevance to a MK5 GTI here. But thats my opinion on the matter doesn't mean i'm right. Most threads here on AS go off topic more than once so adding a FWD into the mix is fine. Carry on, bothers me not. I'm not interested at all in the MK5 GTI or i'd be posting on the VW forums and not on AS.
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Do you all still buy MAX POWER?
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