Sportback Just changed from rs5 to rs3...

[ricje]

Here it is 38k on clock?!?

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[andyt99]

Obvious question is obvious...

 

[D0C]

Indeed! How do they compare?

 

[deanshaw24]

They don't really compare with each other, different types of car. I think the rs5 looks meaner and has more road presence. It's about the only engine that sounds better than the 5 cylinder. But it's also more of a cruiser. The rs3 would be a better daily driver and point to point car. I never find myself giving the rs5 full beans everywhere, whereas the rs3 I would. I have an rs5 at the moment and am looking at maybe changing to the rs3 saloon. So would be interested to hear your thoughts also.

 

[Terminator x]

Full beans in the RS3? Brave man

TX.

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[ricje]

I'm going to say the rs5 definitely looks better. Miss the slick look on my drive. And rs5 had way more toys! Advanced key, pano roof, high def display (did not get the tech pack). And the v8 scream (at the top end) is a great thing.

But the rs3 is a whole new animal. Having considered (and driven a few) the mk1 rs3 and rejected it. This thing with the sports exhaust and mag ride is fantastic... it sounds brilliant (fake over run on downshift included). And it's noticeably quicker than the rs5 as well. No doubt of that.

Driving this full pelt all the time (and a big wallet- not costing me less on fuel)? You will need some balls. The rs5 takes more time to get in its stride. This thing is very different...


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[D0C]

I'm going to say the rs5 definitely looks better. Miss the slick look on my drive. And rs5 had way more toys! Advanced key, pano roof, high def display (did not get the tech pack). And the v8 scream (at the top end) is a great thing.

But the rs3 is a whole new animal. Having considered the mk1 rs3 and rejected it. This thing with the sports exhaust and mag ride is fantastic... it sounds brilliant (fake over run on downshift included). And it's noticeably quicker than the rs5 as well. No doubt of that.

Driving this full pelt all the time (and a big wallet- not costing me less on fuel)? You will need some balls. The rs5 takes more time to get in its stride. This thing is very different...


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Interesting you say the RS3 is noticeably quicker than the RS5. I've never been in an RS5 but would have thought they were on a par.

 

[ricje]

Interesting you say the RS3 is noticeably quicker than the RS5. I've never been in an RS5 but would have thought they were on a par.

Have not reason to say otherwise. But if you launch a rs3 8V. It's noticeably quicker... My experience from owning both. That's all.

And I loved that rs5.. and still do. Wish rs3 was the same colour but was about a good deal....


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[deanshaw24]

Interesting you say the RS3 is noticeably quicker than the RS5. I've never been in an RS5 but would have thought they were on a par.

I have an s3 with 400bhp which I should imagine is slightly quicker than an rs3, the rs5 is the same speed as it, (it doesn't feel a quick as there's no turbo). There's a junction near me and about 300 yards up the road there's a signpost. I did a test with both cars and they both got to the exact same speed.

 

[andyt99]

There's a junction near me and about 300 yards up the road there's a signpost. I did a test with both cars and they both got to the exact same speed.

That doesn't mean they got there in the same time though?

 

[AudiNutta]

That doesn't mean they got there in the same time though?

Same speed at the same point will be the same time, if one car accelerated faster than it would be going quicker by the time it reached the sign.

 

[Terminator x]

The RS5 would get battered if the OP uses LC from zero. Mine got to 60 in 3.6s at Rockingham, standard car.

TX.

 

[andyt99]

Same speed at the same point will be the same time, if one car accelerated faster than it would be going quicker by the time it reached the sign.

I don't think that's true, it depends on the acceleration curve of the car, though it'll be very similar of course.

Imagine two cars with identical 0-60 of 10 seconds. One car has a linear acceleration and the other has much more acceleration to start with but tails off between 50mph and 60mph. The average speed that the second car does in the 10 seconds will be greater than the average speed of the first car, so it will reach the same 60mph in the same time, but further down the road.

In fact, for an extreme example, imagine two cars with identical 0-60mph of 10 seconds. One car reaches 50mph after 2 seconds but takes the remaining 8 seconds to crack 60mph. The second car has opposite behaviour, it takes 8 seconds to reach 10mph, then the boost kicks in and whoosh, it's doing 60mph 2 seconds later.

So the first car does at least 50mph for 8 seconds before reaching 60mph after another 2 seconds.
The second car is doing less than 10mph for 8 seconds before reaching 60mph after another 2 seconds.

Clearly the first car would be much further down the road when it hits 60mph.

 

[baltimorecaesar]

Same speed at the same point will be the same time, if one car accelerated faster than it would be going quicker by the time it reached the sign.

This is not true. Comparing 1/4 mile times for example, you will see there are vastly different mph's which is the recorded speed at the 1/4 mile marker compared to the same exact E.T. (elapsed time) between two different vehicles.

 

[Splathead]

Same speed at the same point will be the same time, if one car accelerated faster than it would be going quicker by the time it reached the sign.

Tsk! Electrical Engineers!

 

[deanshaw24]

Either way they are very simalar in speed, if the s3 got there quicker then the rs5 would soon be passing and Vice Versa.

 

[AudiNutta]

Tsk! Electrical Engineers!

Lmao!! Seemed common sense to me when I thought earlier, for a car to be doing the identical speed at the same marker then if they were side by side both cars would be at that point doing the same speed at the same time? I'd have thought it would all average out over distance.

 

[deanshaw24]

Lmao!! Seemed common sense to me when I thought earlier, for a car to be doing the identical speed at the same marker then if they were side by side both cars would be at that point doing the same speed at the same time? I'd have thought it would all average out over distance.

In therory they could arrive a different times, in real world terms though this will be absolutely minimal. Less than a tenth.

 

[RGBARGEE]

Yawn.... my RS3 is pretty quick!

 

[Evotion]

Thanks.. just wasted 10 minutes trying to get my head round complex acceleration, time and distance calculations.

Basically, the first car would have ended up a LOT further down the road than the second car.