Instrument cluster

[chunky79]

Has anyone changed or had their instrument cluster (speedo) changed on their b6 S4 or A4?
Mine is faulty (S4) and i was wondering how easy it is to change.

Cheers
Dunc

 

[alipaton]

yeah mate i had mine changed about a year ago no probs changing it .was a bit of a pain codeing it to the car though.quite a pricey part if i remember right about £480 depending whether you have the colour dis or not.
So if you're handy with the old vag com it shouldn't be to bad.

Ali

 

[kite]

They can be repaired.
BBA reman or clusterrepairs.......

 

[BahnStormer77]

hopefully one of the sparky's will pip up soon, but I think a repair is easier than a replace - quite a bit of extra coding that needs doing if it's a new cluster...

 

[no_idea]

Has anyone changed or had their instrument cluster (speedo) changed on their b6 S4 or A4?
Mine is faulty (S4) and i was wondering how easy it is to change.

Cheers
Dunc

Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.

 

[chunky79]

hopefully one of the sparky's will pip up soon, but I think a repair is easier than a replace - quite a bit of extra coding that needs doing if it's a new cluster...

I've been told that if it gets repaired theres a chance it could fail again pretty quickly.

 

[chunky79]

yeah mate i had mine changed about a year ago no probs changing it .was a bit of a pain codeing it to the car though.quite a pricey part if i remember right about £480 depending whether you have the colour dis or not.
So if you're handy with the old vag com it shouldn't be to bad.

Ali

Can you remember what had to be removed to get it out?
£530 i've been told by wolvo Audi.
I have vag-com but only used it to diagnose this fault. Should make it's money back with this fault though

 

[chunky79]

Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.

Just sent him a pm.
Cheers

 

[alipaton]

don't think it's a big job taking it out just a couple of screws above the stearing colum behind the rubber gaiter.Then a couple of big multi plugs.But as said the coding was a bit tricky

 

[gadgesxi]

Send a pm to shark_90. I am sure he appears on here sometimes or he is definitely on tyresmoke.net. He will be able to advise and help you out.

YES YES YES!! shark_90 sorted me out! excellent guy, cant recommend him enough!!

I saved about 700, yes 700 quid using him instead of audi! For a cluster change including sorting all the imobiliser stuff out. Just buy a used cluster off ebay and he does the rest.

 

[chunky79]

I have been in touch with him and he has been really helpful, the problem i have is finding a used cluster. Can't find any cars in scrap yards close to me.
I've found a company in Dorset (autotek) who can repair or sell 2nd hand unit's but have been warned off them.

Dunc

 

[gadgesxi]

None on ebay?

 

[BILKO1]

I have been in touch with him and he has been really helpful, the problem i have is finding a used cluster. Can't find any cars in scrap yards close to me.
I've found a company in Dorset (autotek) who can repair or sell 2nd hand unit's but have been warned off them.

Dunc

Don't touch Autotek with a barge pole mate they are absolutely useless. I used them a couple of times for faulty ecu's, came back as they went faulty in the end i started using BBA reman never had a problem with them yet.

 

[BILKO1]

Theres one in the states if youre desparate. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-A...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

[chunky79]

I've seen the one in the states but it's £185 and i think it could be a bit of a risk. it's a shame i've not got a B5, seen plenty of those for around £40.
Cheers for the link though.
I'm getting a bit sweaty now cause the m.o.t is due soon and i think they will fail the car if the light comes on.

Dunc

 

[shark_90]

Which error light are you getting Dunc?

 

[chunky79]

I get the air bag light come on after 10 mins.
Will post the fault codes up in a minute

 

[chunky79]

Tuesday,20,October,2009,19:54:05:42335
VCDS Version: Release 908.1
Data version: 20091018


Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8EX4A123688 Mileage: 121240km/75335miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 HW: 8E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V 0040
Coding: 0011711
Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 06435

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1319
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63251

1 Fault Found:
01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
35-00 - -

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0517
Coding: 00011
Shop #: WSC 63251

1 Fault Found:
01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
35-00 - -

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 3002
Coding: 0010602
Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000

2 Faults Found:
00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 S
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
Coding: 01012
Shop #: WSC 63251

1 Fault Found:
01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
35-00 - -

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 920 980 L
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36
Coding: 01400
Shop #: WSC 00198

Part No: 23688
Component: AUZ6Z0C0157838
23688 AUZ6Z0C0157838

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
Part No: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0704
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BC
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 1311
Coding: 07115
Shop #: WSC 63251

Part No: 8E2959802B
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003

Part No: 8E2959801B
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003

Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0004

Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0004

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63251

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 M
Component: symphony II NP2 0400
Coding: 01200
Shop #: WSC 65536

No fault code found.

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[shark_90]

Ah I see, things just getting their knickers in a twist because of the immobiliser playing up.

I know it's not ideal but what about putting a normal A4 cluster in just as a stop gap until you can find an S4 one?

 

[chunky79]

The car still runs ok. The only way i know it has a fault is the air bag light coming on and it also seem's that the 2nd position for the display (mil,av mil,time of driving) has stopped working.
Would still like it done A.S.A.P

Dunc

 

[chunky79]

Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for £36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
Thanks again Ben for a superb job :thumbsup:

Dunc

edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)

 

[shark_90]

Yeah Audi did manage to sort the car out in the end, 2nd melted coil pack in as many days but this time it took a 20A fuse out with it too! Audi Assist turned up with a new coil and Dan left with a few extra bhp and a smile on his face I'll pass on your regards.

It was nice to meet you and your S4 is lurrvely.

 

[chasdrury]

Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for £36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
Thanks again Ben for a superb job :thumbsup:

Dunc

edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)

So it was you who outbidded me!

The hunt continues!

 

[chunky79]

There are others out there. I didn't want to pay too much for a USA cluster just in case it didn't work but anything under £250 is a good buy now i think.
You can buy my old cluster off me if you want and try and get it repaired, that way your motor won't be off the road??

 

[dan_the_v8man]

Well it looks like i have had the bargain of the century. Managed to bag me a new cluster for a USA s4 (only difference is it says unleaded fuel only in the gauge and there is no 90o in the temp gauge) for £36 delivered!!!! Ebay rules for once.
Anyway, popped up to see Ben aka shark_90 in mansfield today and he fixed the car within 30 mins. He replaced the cluster and reprogrammed it and all works good.
I would highly recommend him to anyone who needs anything doing to the electrics on thier car.
Thanks again Ben for a superb job :thumbsup:

Dunc

edit (forgot to say nice to meet the other 2 guy's there aswell and hope audi sorted your car, soory but i have forgotten your names)

As Ben said, they got it going thanks Its back in the Dealers today having the steering sorted and the other coil packs changed.

Ended up buying an S4 cluster myself so its off to see Ben when I get the car back. £140. Im praying its got a colour DIS

 

[chasdrury]

There are others out there. I didn't want to pay too much for a USA cluster just in case it didn't work but anything under £250 is a good buy now i think.
You can buy my old cluster off me if you want and try and get it repaired, that way your motor won't be off the road??

I'm only joking! I'll find one - the car works, I want to upgrade from red DIS to colour cluster, that's all I want it for!

Chas

 

[BahnStormer77]

chas - yours a petrol / diesel?

 

[chasdrury]

chas - yours a petrol / diesel?

It's a petrol, manual... S4 cluster would be fine, the only issue being the slightly different redline start, but other than that, perfect..

Chas