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Apologies I have not posted in a while but I have moved to BMW camp some time ago, which actually was suggested by members of this forum when I was in decision making process between my old A3 3.2 and BMW 330i . However I fell below should catch your attention.
I have been involved in project which started as simple research task but it has evolved a lot over last 2 years when we discovered a lot disturbing facts about car sales in UK. The aim of the project was to link information available on salvage sites with HPI data.
I don't want to bore you on how extremely damaged write-offs are sold with claims they had 'bumper damage' or cars which are sold with description of "no hidden history" while being unrecorded salvage.
The most worrying fact of all it is that many "officially" written-off cars, clearly sold with damage on salvage auctions, described as write-offs with stated category are MISSING from HPI register. The worst examples are few category B cars which we have found already, being still on the road and having valid MOT and Road Tax, yet still completely clear on HPI check, when they shouldn't.
I could bring many examples but please see one for your attention to start with:
Currently advertised and being HPI Clear:
https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search...ocus--manual-diesel-silver-hatchback-WV14XZZ/
Sold as Category C via copart.co.uk:
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/21850757
This is not isolated to single dealer, car make or location within UK. We got examples from all over the country.
When we approached DVLA recently asking to get in touch with owners of 50 example HPI Clear cars, who are most likely totally unaware of the situation and possibly were subject to fraud, we were refused any information due to data protection laws. We explained in detail the whole issue and heard big fat NO; when at the same time all those car parking companies have no problems getting owner details to issue penalties.
There is one car checking site which already has access to main salvage database and it helped few customers to get full refund on those HPI Clear cars from rouge traders but I am not here to advertise it. We are looking for more victims of this hole in the system where you can buy accident vehicle which is not officially recorded when it should be.
The database which was created has just over 1.5 million salvage auctions on record and you can check it completely FREE. No strings attached, and it will tell you if your car was ever at salvage auction. Records go only until 2015 as this is when data collection started so it is not perfect but we are sure there are thousands of cars out there with hidden history. If your car appears in database you will be provided with contact form to get in touch if you feel you are one of those unaware owners.
On positive hit the site below will tell you what were the details recorded on salvage site (year, make, model), when it was sold and what was the salvage category (Cat B/C/D/S/X or Unrecorded). Database holds more information about each vehicle but this will be released at later date.
You can check for hidden vehicle history for FREE. Please note this is not commercial project, doesn't require any payment or registration and it was created to help everyone:
https://www.salvagehistory.co.uk
We are currently working with mainstream TV channel and newspaper on bringing this information to general public. I hope you understand how serious this is and please share it where you can. I will be posting same information on few car forums I am member of and please hit me with any questions you may have.
Few more HPI Clear examples from eBay:
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/47318638, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123579240695
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/43404288, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264116136523
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/42371836, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323633683142
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/45417357, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132901220963
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/43974808, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132907550224
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/23996628, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352558696415
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/35565628, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132909515923
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/21241955, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153327919217
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/49505248, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264116136635
I have been involved in project which started as simple research task but it has evolved a lot over last 2 years when we discovered a lot disturbing facts about car sales in UK. The aim of the project was to link information available on salvage sites with HPI data.
I don't want to bore you on how extremely damaged write-offs are sold with claims they had 'bumper damage' or cars which are sold with description of "no hidden history" while being unrecorded salvage.
The most worrying fact of all it is that many "officially" written-off cars, clearly sold with damage on salvage auctions, described as write-offs with stated category are MISSING from HPI register. The worst examples are few category B cars which we have found already, being still on the road and having valid MOT and Road Tax, yet still completely clear on HPI check, when they shouldn't.
I could bring many examples but please see one for your attention to start with:
Currently advertised and being HPI Clear:
https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search...ocus--manual-diesel-silver-hatchback-WV14XZZ/
Sold as Category C via copart.co.uk:
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/21850757
This is not isolated to single dealer, car make or location within UK. We got examples from all over the country.
When we approached DVLA recently asking to get in touch with owners of 50 example HPI Clear cars, who are most likely totally unaware of the situation and possibly were subject to fraud, we were refused any information due to data protection laws. We explained in detail the whole issue and heard big fat NO; when at the same time all those car parking companies have no problems getting owner details to issue penalties.
There is one car checking site which already has access to main salvage database and it helped few customers to get full refund on those HPI Clear cars from rouge traders but I am not here to advertise it. We are looking for more victims of this hole in the system where you can buy accident vehicle which is not officially recorded when it should be.
The database which was created has just over 1.5 million salvage auctions on record and you can check it completely FREE. No strings attached, and it will tell you if your car was ever at salvage auction. Records go only until 2015 as this is when data collection started so it is not perfect but we are sure there are thousands of cars out there with hidden history. If your car appears in database you will be provided with contact form to get in touch if you feel you are one of those unaware owners.
On positive hit the site below will tell you what were the details recorded on salvage site (year, make, model), when it was sold and what was the salvage category (Cat B/C/D/S/X or Unrecorded). Database holds more information about each vehicle but this will be released at later date.
You can check for hidden vehicle history for FREE. Please note this is not commercial project, doesn't require any payment or registration and it was created to help everyone:
https://www.salvagehistory.co.uk
We are currently working with mainstream TV channel and newspaper on bringing this information to general public. I hope you understand how serious this is and please share it where you can. I will be posting same information on few car forums I am member of and please hit me with any questions you may have.
Few more HPI Clear examples from eBay:
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/47318638, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123579240695
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/43404288, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264116136523
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/42371836, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323633683142
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/45417357, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132901220963
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/43974808, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132907550224
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/23996628, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352558696415
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/35565628, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132909515923
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/21241955, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153327919217
https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/49505248, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264116136635