1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Dismiss Notice

How long to warm up

paddy Jan 4, 2021

  1. paddy

    paddy Registered User

    6,818
    907
    113
    With temps around 5c i find i need to do about 8 miles to get the gauge up to 90c...Seems like quite a long way. Once at 90 it holds it spot on , traffic or Motorway. Until then the heater is useless, am i just getting old :)
     
  2. Avatar

    snack-media
    Advertisement


  3. Gazwould

    Gazwould Registered User

    7,807
    3,158
    113
    Sounds like thermostat , but what's your coolant capacity ?
     
  4. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    If it holding 90 I'd say it was and your old age, want my diesel? Takes an age haha, especially if not under load
     
    NHN likes this.
  5. ab1702

    ab1702 Registered User

    893
    263
    63
    If it’s getting to 90 and staying there then it’s just because of the cold temps. If the stat was no good then it wouldn’t get to 90 or it would be up and down.
     
    Sibmets likes this.
  6. den911

    den911 Registered User

    179
    13
    18
    -3 to +1 at the moment when i set off for work at 5.30am ,my first 6 miles is 30mph , the oil temp is at 62c when i hit the motorway on 6 miles then coolant temp hits 90c after a couple of miles on motorway and stays there..So aprox 8 miles for me (new thermostat housing last year)
     
  7. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    with an EGR delete it triples the time when on low load
     
    Jay Drury likes this.
  8. Daveyonthemove

    Daveyonthemove Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

    1,827
    624
    113
    Sounds about right to me. My temp only starts to move after about 1 mile of slow driving, and is rarely at 90 before 6 miles.
    That's with a brand new thermostat fitted at the end of summer and fresh coolant.
     
    paddy likes this.
  9. Gazwould

    Gazwould Registered User

    7,807
    3,158
    113

    That's what I absorbed and put up with for 6.5 years , then a new thermostat was put in and it gets to 90° like a rocket ( 1.9 tdi AVF ) reduced smoke opacity further .
     
    aqibi2000 likes this.
  10. SootySport

    SootySport Registered User

    4,229
    1,140
    113
    Same here with a 2.0 TSI. Luckily it’s the Mrs. that drives it every day to the coal face while I’m tucked up in a warm bed .
     
    paddy likes this.
  11. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    Will give it a pop this weekend, cheers.

    Been like this for 4 winters now
     
  12. Avatar

    snack-media
    Advertisement


  13. ch1z64

    ch1z64 C'mon you's bhoy's in Green Silver Supporter VCDS Map User

    4,203
    930
    113
    Today i sat in mine for at least 8mins ( idle ) before it got to 80% and 10mins to get to 90
     
  14. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    I get nice warm air after about 3 miles and engine fully warm at about 6.
     
  15. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    Just a reminder we care about oil temp reaching 90 not the coolant, observe the DIS
     
  16. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    Would do if I had that function
     
  17. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    Cheap obd2 scanner and free app
     
  18. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    Spot on! Takes about twice as long for the oil to get to 90, as the coolant does
     
  19. samisnake

    samisnake Registered User

    864
    382
    63
    thinking out loud, why would the oil temp be more important than the coolant temp?
    oil is multigrade, itll do its job whether its hot or cold. the coolant temp is an indicator of the temp of the block. colder coolant=cold engine=more friction as cold metal contracts and hot metal expands.
     
    ch1z64 likes this.
  20. S.

    S. Save the manuals

    2,333
    697
    113
    Lower the oil temperature - lower the viscosity meaning more fluid particle friction. Oil paricles will move slower and the lubrication won't be as efficient as it would be on working temperatures.
    But i doubt anyone is sitting on the rev limit all day long for this to cause premature component wear.
     
  21. nluk100

    nluk100 Registered User

    1,580
    334
    83
    Maybe not all day long but you'd be surprised at the amount of drivers who rag it straight from cold and wonder why their engine burns oil later in life.
     
    S. and den911 like this.
  22. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    Some people just have no mechanical sympathy at all
     
    S. likes this.
  23. den911

    den911 Registered User

    179
    13
    18
    Spot on, i am under 2000rpm until i hit min 62c oil temp,always look after your engine and it will look after you ..This i do not because i am not 21 any more i have always done it more so on my diesels ..
     
  24. S.

    S. Save the manuals

    2,333
    697
    113
    I know. I guess that's why nowdays engines have soft limiters in neutral and engine component protections that holds the power down before engine is up to 60-70 deg (if i got that right).
    Back to the OT i guess it's right there at about 15-20km of drive in colder weather to get it to temperature - but it's not steady. I guess it's new thermostats soon.
     
  25. ch1z64

    ch1z64 C'mon you's bhoy's in Green Silver Supporter VCDS Map User

    4,203
    930
    113
    A bit off topic but not miles away how can i see coolant temp on my Dis, or am i just being a bit daft as all i see is a snowflake icon and temp which i am assuming is outside temp . Any help muchly appreicated ,
     
  26. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    Any one on here from a cold climate with an oil pressure gauge?

    Can you record us a video of cold start showing the oil pressure gauge when the oil is cold, so we can see how significantly the oil pressure changes compared to when the oil temperature reaches 90 degree.

    With oil temperature increase the oil viscosity decreases == better flow between the bearing surfaces
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
  27. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    Do you mean oil temp?
     
    aqibi2000 likes this.
  28. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    Can’t delete this posted by mistake
     
  29. ch1z64

    ch1z64 C'mon you's bhoy's in Green Silver Supporter VCDS Map User

    4,203
    930
    113
    I can see the oil temp rise on the gauge but in post 13 member mentions coolant ( my understanding is he means u can see thst on Dis )
     
  30. Daveyonthemove

    Daveyonthemove Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

    1,827
    624
    113
    Coolant temp is the permanent dial on the dash next to the fuel gauge. It's indicated by the needle and starts at 60c on the left with 90c in the middle (where you want yours to sit at) and 120c on the right.
    Oil temp is hidden in DIS menu.
     
  31. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    pretty sure gauge is water.
     
  32. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    this is only on the FL (white dash) cars right?
     
  33. Avatar

    snack-media
    Advertisement


  34. ch1z64

    ch1z64 C'mon you's bhoy's in Green Silver Supporter VCDS Map User

    4,203
    930
    113
    Cheers ears just so i knew what waa what . Bulbs working great mate good shout
     
    Daveyonthemove likes this.
  35. ch1z64

    ch1z64 C'mon you's bhoy's in Green Silver Supporter VCDS Map User

    4,203
    930
    113
    Cheers ears aa i have FL
     
  36. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Registered User

    1,045
    179
    63
    I have Oil temp with red cluster (DIS)
     
  37. Daveyonthemove

    Daveyonthemove Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

    1,827
    624
    113
    Mine is 2006 S3, so one of the early ones.
     
  38. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    Where is it? I’ve never seen it.
     
  39. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    You need to go through the menu with the buttons on the end of the stalk

    I had it on my Pre FL red dials and now my FL wite ones
     
  40. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    I know how to use it. I just don’t have oil temp. I was wondering if it had to be enabled with vcds.
     
    LEE69 likes this.
  41. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    No idea sorry, mine was already there.
     
  42. LEE69

    LEE69 07 170 DSG

    2,885
    542
    113
    Could try this

    http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagComDIS.html


    Enabling Lap Timer on MY2010+

    *Oil temperature will be enabled as well:
    [17 - Instruments]
    [Coding - 07] -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 1 Bit 3 change from 0 to 1
    Or Check the box for "Lap Timer active" if available.
     
  43. abmat

    abmat Active Member VCDS Map User

    980
    218
    43
    cheers. I’ll give that a go. I did it on my a6 but never looked on the A3.
     

Share This Page

Do Not Sell My Personal Information