Hi , For those who put their pedal bikes in the car, I was just wondering how you go about doing it while leaving enough room for other stuff like tents, storage boxes, sleeping bags, quilts, pillows, etc ?? I've taken my xxl hybrid out in my Allroad on camping holidays, and when it's in the car, there's not room for anything else. I put the back seats down, take the front and rear wheels off, turn the handlebars 90 degree's, then lay the bike in the back and put the wheels on top. That takes up nearly all the load space . Anyone managed to find a way to sit a bike upright when its in the car ?? Before anyone asks.......I won't put it on a cycle rack on the back or on the roof, because the way I drive, it wouldn't stay on there very long !! And there's the obvious security issue.