Hi! New member with a (I think) new question

Hi

I've been browsing this forum for a couple of weeks now since my wife ordered an 8Y S3, and thought I'd get involved.

Although It will be my wife's car, we basically share both of our cars and it's fair to say I'm more the enthusiast although she now takes more of an interest than I ever thought she would. She's currently in an 8V A3 Sport, but wants something 'nippier'. She's clearly been spoilt by her previous A1 (same power output but lighter and more nimble) and even more so by my M240i (which I can't recommend enough and doubt I'll ever sell).

Our order: S3 Sportback, Mythos Black, C&S, Pan Roof, Ambient Lighting, Matrix lights. I'm hoping that we've struck really lucky, and will have ordered too late for the software issues and early enough to keep the matrix headlights. Ordered end of Jan, given Build Week 17 which has now moved to 14 (although dealer doesn't seem 100% confident about this).

Anyway, much of the debate on here seems to be around the aesthetics - which are always going to be subjective. Personally, I prefer much of the 8Y look, but it's a shame that they've clearly skimped on a few materials. I also think it's a bit of very canny marketing to basically sell the Golf 8 at the same, if not higher, price than the S3 based on a few extra BHP which will be barely noticeable in daily driving (in fact if you watch enough reviews/comparisons you'll see that the S3 is a little more responsive at 'normal' speeds) - whilst equipping it with a pretty average interior and unintuitive infotainment. But each to their own.

I'm far more interested in how the cars drive and, on that note, I wonder if any of the current 8Y S3 owners can give a bit of insight into the effect changing the Quattro settings in Individual Mode has on the drive? I would assume that putting Quattro into Dynamic increases rear wheel bias etc, but would be good to get a view. Something I've heard in a few reviews (although the quality of most review is fairly poor in this regard) is that the 8Y handles a lot better than previous S3s and is more adjustable etc - so that's definitely good to hear.

Anyway - have enjoyed browsing and have already learned a lot from you guys (certain obnoxious 8V fanboys aside) - so looking forward to getting involved a bit.
 

Chris4410

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You don’t have to be a 8V fanboy to realise that’s the 8Y is a terrible looking car, you just need to have eyes.

It didn’t look great in the photos, but having experienced cars before that didn’t look great in photos but looked great in the metal I held my judgment. However I have seen many variants now, and if anything they look worse in the metal.

And I am not bias in the slightest to the 8V, I changed my S3 over 2 years ago.
 

Moots

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You don’t have to be a 8V fanboy to realise that’s the 8Y is a terrible looking car, you just need to have eyes.

It didn’t look great in the photos, but having experienced cars before that didn’t look great in photos but looked great in the metal I held my judgment. However I have seen many variants now, and if anything they look worse in the metal.

And I am not bias in the slightest to the 8V, I changed my S3 over 2 years ago.
But again, that’s only your opinion. Visuals are subjective, don’t try and push an opinion as if it is fact.
 
Exactly. I've no problem with anyone preferring the 8V. Definitely some things I prefer about it. But the 'my opinion is fact' thing is a bit sad. I've not seen an 8Y S3 in the flesh yet , so I'm still reserving full judgement. Like I say - as long as it drives better, that's the main thing. General consensus among the journos seems to be that steering, suspension etc are much improved.
 

auzzam_crd

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Exactly. I've no problem with anyone preferring the 8V. Definitely some things I prefer about it. But the 'my opinion is fact' thing is a bit sad. I've not seen an 8Y S3 in the flesh yet , so I'm still reserving full judgement. Like I say - as long as it drives better, that's the main thing. General consensus among the journos seems to be that steering, suspension etc are much improved.
It's really nice in the flesh! I wish my edition1 had 4 exhausts lol.

Spot on about the fact stuff, everyone is entitled to their opinions - you'll just get used to it lol... I asked the question on the live stream last week

"Why does the 8y get so much hate in the looks?"

The responses were fun!
 
It's really nice in the flesh! I wish my edition1 had 4 exhausts lol.

Spot on about the fact stuff, everyone is entitled to their opinions - you'll just get used to it lol... I asked the question on the live stream last week

"Why does the 8y get so much hate in the looks?"

The responses were fun!
Ha ha! I bet. I do keep an eye on your YT by the way - very helpful. Wonder whether your mate with the S3 has any views on the Quattro settings?
 

Chris4410

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Exactly. I've no problem with anyone preferring the 8V. Definitely some things I prefer about it. But the 'my opinion is fact' thing is a bit sad. I've not seen an 8Y S3 in the flesh yet , so I'm still reserving full judgement. Like I say - as long as it drives better, that's the main thing. General consensus among the journos seems to be that steering, suspension etc are much improved.
So am I right in thinking you spent £40k+ on a car you haven't even seen in the metal, let alone driven?

If that's the case, that's madness.
 

Santiago

Registered User
So am I right in thinking you spent £40k+ on a car you haven't even seen in the metal, let alone driven?
If that's the case, that's madness.

It's no big deal, and certainly not "mad". Why you feel compelled to add an insult/slur to each of your comments/questions I'm not quite sure.

If you want to be "first in" with a new model, then there won't be any cars around to view or test drive anyway. Sure, you could wait 6 months for the demo cars to arrive, but some people don't want to do that, especially with all the "covid uncertainty" around. Anyway, their choice. For example, the vast majority of the people currently taking delivery of their mk 8 Golf R's won't have done either, but many will have owned or at least driven the previous model, so they know pretty much what to expect. Same for the S3. It's always 'evolution' with VAG cars, so there is no way the new one is going to drive completely differently. The irony is, of course, that you wouldn't have been able to do a test drive over the last 3 months, even if the dealer had a demo car in stock. As for 'seen', if you watch a few 20-minute YT videos you get a pretty good idea of what it looks like. Unless you are buying a new car on the basis of a few photos (which nobody does), you are really not taking that much of a risk. However, if it comes and you really don't like it (for whatever reason) then you can always reject it. Not the end of the world.
 

Chris4410

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It's no big deal, and certainly not "mad". Why you feel compelled to add an insult/slur to each of your comments/questions I'm not quite sure.

If you want to be "first in" with a new model, then there won't be any cars around to view or test drive anyway. Sure, you could wait 6 months for the demo cars to arrive, but some people don't want to do that, especially with all the "covid uncertainty" around. Anyway, their choice. For example, the vast majority of the people currently taking delivery of their mk 8 Golf R's won't have done either, but many will have owned or at least driven the previous model, so they know pretty much what to expect. Same for the S3. It's always 'evolution' with VAG cars, so there is no way the new one is going to drive completely differently. The irony is, of course, that you wouldn't have been able to do a test drive over the last 3 months, even if the dealer had a demo car in stock. As for 'seen', if you watch a few 20-minute YT videos you get a pretty good idea of what it looks like. Unless you are buying a new car on the basis of a few photos (which nobody does), you are really not taking that much of a risk. However, if it comes and you really don't like it (for whatever reason) then you can always reject it. Not the end of the world.

If you take it as a slur/insult I can’t help that, it is not intended as such, it’s a genuine thought behind someone spending what is a lot of money on something they have only read about and seen in photos, I honestly don’t get that.

You say they will have experience of the previous product, that doesn’t tell you what the new one will be like.

For example I’m sure that you currently live in a house, a new house is still a house but I’m sure that you wouldn’t buy one without viewing it in person.
 
If you take it as a slur/insult I can’t help that, it is not intended as such, it’s a genuine thought behind someone spending what is a lot of money on something they have only read about and seen in photos, I honestly don’t get that.

You say they will have experience of the previous product, that doesn’t tell you what the new one will be like.

For example I’m sure that you currently live in a house, a new house is still a house but I’m sure that you wouldn’t buy one without viewing it in person.
I did! Build off plan. 1st house on a new estate even before the show house was built. Same with this car. Bought without seeing one in the flesh and certainly no test drive.
If you have enough information around you (thanks to YT and the likes of Auzzam), you can then make a informed decision. Yes there is still an air of uncertainly until you ‘try the goods’ but like Del Boy said ‘he who dares Rodney’.
 
I bought my used Macan S last November unseen and undriven, apart from seeing a few photos, however, I had test driven a 2.0 litre Macan after the 1st lockdown was lifted, so I had a good idea of how the the car drove. I also had the Porsche dealers agreement that I could get a full refund should I decide not to go ahead with the purchase, for whatever reason, when I collected the car.

I think that this is the way that many people have bought cars, both new and used, during this CV crisis so, personally I don’t think anyone purchasing a car this way is mad....but each to their own opinion
 

Chris4410

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I bought my used Macan S last November unseen and undriven, apart from seeing a few photos, however, I had test driven a 2.0 litre Macan after the 1st lockdown was lifted, so I had a good idea of how the the car drove. I also had the Porsche dealers agreement that I could get a full refund should I decide not to go ahead with the purchase, for whatever reason, when I collected the car.

I think that this is the way that many people have bought cars, both new and used, during this CV crisis so, personally I don’t think anyone purchasing a car this way is mad....but each to their own opinion

Completely different situation, I'm sure you had seen many Macans on the road and you say you had driven one.
 
It's an interesting point actually, and I don't think I'm mad. The reality is that we're just rolling PCP deals anyway, so whether we stay with what we got, switch cars or switch brands there's going to be a reasonably similar monthly outgoing. Switching brands is often more costly as you miss out on either equity built up or loyalty discounts for returning customers.

Right now is a really bad time for viewing and testing cars, but a really good time financially to try to get a deal on a new car. Brexit means prices are going to go up, but COVID has interrupted sales and production to the point that showrooms are desperate for sales. BMW are contacting customers proactively to encourage interest in new vehicles with lower interest rates, Audi has well publicised deal just gone live for a couple of months' free payments or something and we got a far better discount on our S3 order than I'd anticipated (we enquired on prices more out of interest than expectation of buying initially).

So the reality is it's a calculated risk, with a good value deal and the likely worst case scenario of a car we're not over the moon with for a couple of years. Because, as has been pointed out, we can reject if it's not fit for purpose.

As I've also pointed out, I'm far more interested in how the car drives than how it looks anyway - and test drives just aren't happening at the moment so there's no way around that. I'd not usually buy a car without test driving, but these are the times we're in. I've watched every review and read every article I can find, and just about everyone agrees that it's the best ever S3 to drive - that'll do for me but, as ever, each to their own.
 

KXL

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Like most here and probably due to pandemic lockdown, I have only seen the A3 in youtube reviews but never once in the flesh for a good 3 months since I've placed and order for one, and those reviews online and youtube are always biased towards the 'top of range' S-line or Advance (in Europe) with all the bells and whistles, but of course they need to sell them! Those Stylish matrix lights are quite stunning. However mine would be the Sport trim (so no fancy lights), there was a good lease on it, so why not, it would be my first Audi. My previous cars in my opnion were all 'more stylish' exterior wise especially if compared with the A3 Sport trim UK. But of course style is subjective. I mean the A3 maybe the most premium of the lot of cars I would have owned (The Volvo V40 comes close), but Sport trim still have halogen rear lights. My first car ever without LED rear lights. Really Audi? But still I liked the look of the interior, (why wouldn't I coming from the dinosaur that is the V40) and could not resist ticking the option that gave me the B&O soundsystem. Besides, most of the time I would be sitting inside the car and it's pretty decent with technology, which I hope would mostly work. I did not have high hopes for it, look wise externally, but then the other day I saw a A3 40TFSIe in Sport trim and same colour. I did have a close up look at it. It looked better in the flesh than in pictures. Then again sometimes expectation can be a good thing, as I've never owned a 8V before. Of course my opinion may change once I get the car and it constantly throws a technology tantrum at me, that would be a different story. But I hope not.
 

Santiago

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As I've also pointed out, I'm far more interested in how the car drives than how it looks anyway - and test drives just aren't happening at the moment so there's no way around that. I'd not usually buy a car without test driving, but these are the times we're in. I've watched every review and read every article I can find, and just about everyone agrees that it's the best ever S3 to drive - that'll do for me but, as ever, each to their own.
I don't think that there is any question that the new S3 will be being better to drive, but perhaps not by that much. Same engine and gearbox, so more mechanic tweaks than anything, with a big focus on cabin tech. As far as your question about the 'quattro' setting in Individual drive mode is concerned, is this the same thing as "drive system"? I have only seen one YT review where this was even discussed, and even then it was glossed over. Audi and VW always seem to be very secretive about what these different settings actually do, other than to say vague things like "use comfort for a softer ride, etc". In some cars (inc the S3) you can immediately feel changes to the steering weight and ride if you change the main drive select setting from one extreme to another (e.g. comfort to dynamic) but as for "drive system" in Individual? Also, unless you have adaptive dampers (only in the Vorsprung?) there won't be such a wide range of suspension settings. It would be interesting to hear what the S3 owners manual has to say about the drive system/quattro setting, but I am guessing not very much.
 

Chris4410

Registered User
It's an interesting point actually, and I don't think I'm mad. The reality is that we're just rolling PCP deals anyway, so whether we stay with what we got, switch cars or switch brands there's going to be a reasonably similar monthly outgoing. Switching brands is often more costly as you miss out on either equity built up or loyalty discounts for returning customers.

Right now is a really bad time for viewing and testing cars, but a really good time financially to try to get a deal on a new car. Brexit means prices are going to go up, but COVID has interrupted sales and production to the point that showrooms are desperate for sales. BMW are contacting customers proactively to encourage interest in new vehicles with lower interest rates, Audi has well publicised deal just gone live for a couple of months' free payments or something and we got a far better discount on our S3 order than I'd anticipated (we enquired on prices more out of interest than expectation of buying initially).

So the reality is it's a calculated risk, with a good value deal and the likely worst case scenario of a car we're not over the moon with for a couple of years. Because, as has been pointed out, we can reject if it's not fit for purpose.

As I've also pointed out, I'm far more interested in how the car drives than how it looks anyway - and test drives just aren't happening at the moment so there's no way around that. I'd not usually buy a car without test driving, but these are the times we're in. I've watched every review and read every article I can find, and just about everyone agrees that it's the best ever S3 to drive - that'll do for me but, as ever, each to their own.
I have actually seen the opposite, I know a few people in sales for BMW and Audi.

Both dealerships have experienced their highest selling weeks ever over the past month, my friend who works for BMW was highlighting that at this time of year they would on average sell about 50 cars per week but at the moment it's 65. A few weeks ago they sold 99 cars in one week.

As for returning to the same brand to achieve some sort of loyalty bonus, even as an Audi owner with a history of buying 3 brand new cars from my dealer they were unable/unwilling to provide a better deal than Mercedes, BMW or VW.
 
I have actually seen the opposite, I know a few people in sales for BMW and Audi.

Both dealerships have experienced their highest selling weeks ever over the past month, my friend who works for BMW was highlighting that at this time of year they would on average sell about 50 cars per week but at the moment it's 65. A few weeks ago they sold 99 cars in one week.

As for returning to the same brand to achieve some sort of loyalty bonus, even as an Audi owner with a history of buying 3 brand new cars from my dealer they were unable/unwilling to provide a better deal than Mercedes, BMW or VW.
I hate to state the obvious, but high selling over the past month is exactly what you would expect to see given the promotions they've been running to re-invigorate sales. Re BMW - they're offering 2.9%APR and mailing, emailing and telephoning all customers. They don't do that because they were selling lots - but they are now reaping the rewards.
 
I don't think that there is any question that the new S3 will be being better to drive, but perhaps not by that much. Same engine and gearbox, so more mechanic tweaks than anything, with a big focus on cabin tech. As far as your question about the 'quattro' setting in Individual drive mode is concerned, is this the same thing as "drive system"? I have only seen one YT review where this was even discussed, and even then it was glossed over. Audi and VW always seem to be very secretive about what these different settings actually do, other than to say vague things like "use comfort for a softer ride, etc". In some cars (inc the S3) you can immediately feel changes to the steering weight and ride if you change the main drive select setting from one extreme to another (e.g. comfort to dynamic) but as for "drive system" in Individual? Also, unless you have adaptive dampers (only in the Vorsprung?) there won't be such a wide range of suspension settings. It would be interesting to hear what the S3 owners manual has to say about the drive system/quattro setting, but I am guessing not very much.
From the reviews I've seen, both Joe Achilles and a bloke called Volkswizard have made some specific comments about what the car's like to drive. Joe mentioned a much better Quattro/Haldex system and an excellent passive suspension setup. Volkswizard was mainly moaning about some of the interior quality in the Audi compared with a BMW M135i, but commented that he was able to get oversteer rather than the usual Audi understeer which ties in with Joe's comments about the much improved Quattro.

You're right - Audi and BMW are very strangely vague about what the drive modes do specifically. Before I bought my M240i, I found very detailed info on BMW forums, but haven't seen much similar on Audi forums - hence asking whether any owners on here have a view. Hopefully it won't be too long before I get to play around and find out for myself!
 

Chris4410

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I hate to state the obvious, but high selling over the past month is exactly what you would expect to see given the promotions they've been running to re-invigorate sales. Re BMW - they're offering 2.9%APR and mailing, emailing and telephoning all customers. They don't do that because they were selling lots - but they are now reaping the rewards.
These high selling numbers have been occurring since last summer, and Audi haven't reduced Apr rates and again they are having record sales figures for months and months.

Those with the money, have had little else to spend their money on for the past 12 months so they are clearly spending it on cars.

The consequence of course is that what would have been a couple of years worth of sales has been condensed into quite a short time frame, it will be interesting to see what sales look like later in the year, and early next year when other things open up and people have many other places to spend their money again.
 
These high selling numbers have been occurring since last summer, and Audi haven't reduced Apr rates and again they are having record sales figures for months and months.

Those with the money, have had little else to spend their money on for the past 12 months so they are clearly spending it on cars.

The consequence of course is that what would have been a couple of years worth of sales has been condensed into quite a short time frame, it will be interesting to see what sales look like later in the year, and early next year when other things open up and people have many other places to spend their money again.
 

Frizzley

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With Drive select the most noticeable difference for cars with Automatic transmissions is the modified shift patterns and throttle response. Other changes are dependent the cars spec with the different modes also altering steering, suspension, diff, exhaust note and air con settings and typically tightening up the car as you move from comfort through to dynamic.

From personal experience however some of these are more noticeable than others and vary significantly between different models:

Wifes Q3 - mostly use dynamic mode as it removes its tendency to lag when pulling away from junctions and at rounabouts etc. Dont notice much difference in the suspension or steering though.

TTRS - moving between comfort and dynamic noticeably changed its characteristics - in comfort mode it felt quick, in dynamic it felt and was very very quick .

The changes between the different modes are most evident on my S5 where you can also feel noticeable differences to the weight of the steering and firmness of the suspension. Dynamic mode is fun for everyday use but on a long motorway drive eco mode makes for a very comfortable journeys and still have plenty of power on tap when needed
 

Chris4410

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Really interesting, myself and a friend are looking to change cars at the moment and anything we look at mainly BMW, Porsche or Audi the cars are sold
 
Really interesting, myself and a friend are looking to change cars at the moment and anything we look at mainly BMW, Porsche or Audi the cars are sold
I think this is a result of a halt in production when COVID first struck, at least partially. There are also likely to be some ordering/shipping delays because of Brexit, but I'm not sure how much of a part that is playing at the moment. That, and the recent aggressive marketing and promotions/discounts, means demand is currently higher than supply - so there will many places short on stock and growing order queues. Which is probably why we were able to get such a good discount of a factory build when usually the best/only discounts (especially with Audi) are only available on cars in stock.
 
With Drive select the most noticeable difference for cars with Automatic transmissions is the modified shift patterns and throttle response. Other changes are dependent the cars spec with the different modes also altering steering, suspension, diff, exhaust note and air con settings and typically tightening up the car as you move from comfort through to dynamic.

From personal experience however some of these are more noticeable than others and vary significantly between different models:

Wifes Q3 - mostly use dynamic mode as it removes its tendency to lag when pulling away from junctions and at rounabouts etc. Dont notice much difference in the suspension or steering though.

TTRS - moving between comfort and dynamic noticeably changed its characteristics - in comfort mode it felt quick, in dynamic it felt and was very very quick .

The changes between the different modes are most evident on my S5 where you can also feel noticeable differences to the weight of the steering and firmness of the suspension. Dynamic mode is fun for everyday use but on a long motorway drive eco mode makes for a very comfortable journeys and still have plenty of power on tap when needed
Sounds like your TTRS is pretty similar to my M240i when it comes to drive modes, which makes sense. Think I've got a pretty good idea of what to expect in terms of throttle map, transmission response, engine/exhaust tone (with fake 5 pot noise apparently in Dynamic) and steering weight, but really intrigued by the Quattro settings. Not had 4wd since a 405 estate many years back and, as you'd expect, that was pretty one dimensional!
 

Moots

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Sounds like your TTRS is pretty similar to my M240i when it comes to drive modes, which makes sense. Think I've got a pretty good idea of what to expect in terms of throttle map, transmission response, engine/exhaust tone (with fake 5 pot noise apparently in Dynamic) and steering weight, but really intrigued by the Quattro settings. Not had 4wd since a 405 estate many years back and, as you'd expect, that was pretty one dimensional!
Ive not actually looked at the individual settings on my S3 yet, i just stick it in dynamic and leave it at that got me thinking now, will go have a play when the wife gets home and she takes over looking after the toddler!
 
Ive not actually looked at the individual settings on my S3 yet, i just stick it in dynamic and leave it at that got me thinking now, will go have a play when the wife gets home and she takes over looking after the toddler!
Excellent. Will be interested to see how you get on!
 

Frizzley

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My S5 has the optional sports diff and you can change the settings on that but apart from that not aware of an options to adjust the Quattro settings In any of the different modes including the individual one. What were you hoping to be able to do
 
My S5 has the optional sports diff and you can change the settings on that but apart from that not aware of an options to adjust the Quattro settings In any of the different modes including the individual one. What were you hoping to be able to do
You definitely can on the S3 - seen it in screen grabs. Same on the 8V too I believe. I honestly don't know what I'm hoping to do until I get a feel for what difference it makes. I just find it quite interesting really. In theory, I guess I like the idea of configuring an individual mode that sits nicely between Comfort and Dynamic for slightly more peppy daily driving. For example: Drivetrain and Quattro in Dynamic; steering and engine noise in Comfort. May well turn out not to be worth the bother, but only time will tell I guess and I'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to this stuff.
 

Moots

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Just found this thread on the topic re the 8V (I think RS3 in this case). Seems to confirm my thinking that it's about improving the rear wheel bias, with some wording from a user manual etc. https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/individual-drive-mode-quattro-configuration.371004/
Had a quick look, couldn’t see any settings related to Quattro in the individual settings, was driving at the time though. Need to check properly when parked up, there were only 3 settings in individual mode, but could be that some of them are hidden whilst in motion.
 
Had a quick look, couldn’t see any settings related to Quattro in the individual settings, was driving at the time though. Need to check properly when parked up, there were only 3 settings in individual mode, but could be that some of them are hidden whilst in motion.
On the 8V (might be facelift or S-Tronic - I don't remember it on my 8V manuals but was on my 8V S-Tronic) you could play around with Quattro settings in individual - Not on the 8Y though - I usually have engine noise and engine dynamic but steering in Auto
 

KXL

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Ive not actually looked at the individual settings on my S3 yet, i just stick it in dynamic and leave it at that got me thinking now, will go have a play when the wife gets home and she takes over looking after the toddler!
Eg "'Honey would you be long....' 'Not at all, going to the supermarket'" and then car leaves with the usual DSG farts on upshifts and cackles on the overun :wink:
 

Moots

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Eg "'Honey would you be long....' 'Not at all, going to the supermarket'" and then car leaves with the usual DSG farts on upshifts and cackles on the overun :wink:
Bingo just heading to Morrison’s, via the bypass and some windy back roads
 
On the 8V (might be facelift or S-Tronic - I don't remember it on my 8V manuals but was on my 8V S-Tronic) you could play around with Quattro settings in individual - Not on the 8Y though - I usually have engine noise and engine dynamic but steering in Auto
Ah, that's interesting and a bit of a shame if so. Have definitely seen or read something saying otherwise, but there are a lot of errors in these reviews.
 

Santiago

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Ah, that's interesting and a bit of a shame if so. Have definitely seen or read something saying otherwise, but there are a lot of errors in these reviews.
Rory Reid did a review of the new S3 in Sept last year and there were 4 things you could change under 'Individual' drive select:
Drive system, Suspension, Steering, Engine sound.
 

Frizzley

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Rory Reid did a review of the new S3 in Sept last year and there were 4 things you could change under 'Individual' drive select:
Drive system, Suspension, Steering, Engine sound.

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Santiago

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Ok, so the "Quattro with sport differential" individual setting is only present on the RS?
 
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