I was in Audi dealership the other day querying about new S4 and the salesman said the rumour was that they were going to be diesel.
S5 and SQ5 would also change to diesel.
I was in Audi dealership the other day querying about new S4 and the salesman said the rumour was that they were going to be diesel.
S5 and SQ5 would also change to diesel.
That doesn't make any sense..
I would however like the v8 from the sq7 in say an a7
Currently waiting to see if they release it as not keen on 286bhp in stock form when the cls 400d has 340hp standard.
Also consumer demand for diesel has reduced quite a bit so surely Audi wouldn't replace the s4 with a diesel version.
What they could do which would be great is have a diesel equivalent the way the 340i competes with the 340d rather than replace the petrol version altogether.
Which dealer told you this?
Definitely.
That V8 Diesel could be such a good ubiquitous power plant.
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The only thing is that I would never believe a salesperson when it comes to future models as they have a hidden agenda. In other words they will want you to buy what they think they need to sell to you.
However found this https://www.eurekar.co.uk/articles/2018-03-12/new-audi-sq5-is-petrol---but-diesel-is-coming
Agreed, to replace the s4 & s5 with diesels would not be a good move. However diesels are more suited to the 'tractors' all manufacturers seem to think we want these day...Interesting to see whether it runs alongside the sq5 or replaces it.
I can't see that happening with the s5 or s4 though as they've always been petrol..
An a4 or a5 v6 tdi with 320bhp the way mine is currently set up would be a nice addition though
Agreed, to replace the s4 & s5 with diesels would not be a good move. However diesels are more suited to the 'tractors' all manufacturers seem to think we want these day...
It really depends on which diesels you mean.
The average 4 cylinder diesels fitted to most cars will be 'tractor' like in their nature. Even the vag ones which I've found have been more refined and smooth than the competition.
The 6 cylinders and above however are in a different league altogether.
My own experience of the v6 tdi has been that it's a remarkably smooth, wafty, effortlessly fast overtaking machine.
On idle it may sound diesel on the outside but on acceleration it actually makes quite a good sound and in the cabin it's super quiet.
So in terms of power and economy, especially if you do motorway miles, I think 6 cylinder diesels are almost a perfect balance.
LOL, I wasn't referring to the engines when I stated tractors ;-)It really depends on which diesels you mean.
The average 4 cylinder diesels fitted to most cars will be 'tractor' like in their nature. Even the vag ones which I've found have been more refined and smooth than the competition.
The 6 cylinders and above however are in a different league altogether.
My own experience of the v6 tdi has been that it's a remarkably smooth, wafty, effortlessly fast overtaking machine.
On idle it may sound diesel on the outside but on acceleration it actually makes quite a good sound and in the cabin it's super quiet.
So in terms of power and economy, especially if you do motorway miles, I think 6 cylinder diesels are almost a perfect balance.
I was in Audi dealership the other day querying about new S4 and the salesman said the rumour was that they were going to be diesel.
S5 and SQ5 would also change to diesel.
I thought you already had a diesel S4Sorry, that's absolutely BS.
I thought you already had a diesel S4
I was in Audi dealership the other day querying about new S4 and the salesman said the rumour was that they were going to be diesel.
S5 and SQ5 would also change to diesel.
But diesel fumes are literally poisoning kids in London or are you saying new diesels don't?Not according to some and a diesel revival has been forecast, if it hasn't commenced already. The feeling is that once buyers realise that current new diesels are, in fact, cleaner than petrol engines they'll start buying again. Sales are already begining to pick up. Unfortunately it seems that makers are having difficulties with petrol engines in SUV's meeting the emission targets. I know the simple answer to that one though ;-)
https://newmobility.news/2018/07/18/vw-group-record-sales-and-diesel-revival/
https://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/industry/opinion-why-we-should-buy-new-cleaner-ever-diesels
A diesel will never make a good sound as a Petrol it’s not even comparable. Stupid from Audi if this is true.It really depends on which diesels you mean.
The average 4 cylinder diesels fitted to most cars will be 'tractor' like in their nature. Even the vag ones which I've found have been more refined and smooth than the competition.
The 6 cylinders and above however are in a different league altogether.
My own experience of the v6 tdi has been that it's a remarkably smooth, wafty, effortlessly fast overtaking machine.
On idle it may sound diesel on the outside but on acceleration it actually makes quite a good sound and in the cabin it's super quiet.
So in terms of power and economy, especially if you do motorway miles, I think 6 cylinder diesels are almost a perfect balance.
I suggest you listen to the petrol engines with the new particulate filter they now have to have fitted, apparently it completely ruins the sound...
Yep...
A diesel will never make a good sound as a Petrol it’s not even comparable. Stupid from Audi if this is true.
Stirling AudiActually. Good shout from someone else earlier today.
Which dealership was it that told you? I ask because I know a guy on instagram that's been told the same. I said the same as I replied on here but if it's same franchise or dealer group, that would be interesting
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Actually the New M2 Competition sounds really good with the filter on Still Pops and Bangs a lot It’s just Audi Sound engineers Are a joke Listen to the Rs4/5 they sound Awful and The New R8 V10 Performance sounds so muted No pops and bangs at all. My next Car will for sure Be A Bmw M Or AMG model As Audi can’t seem to make good sounding cars Anymore Apart from the Rs3 but we haven’t even heard what that will sound like with that Petrol filter.I suggest you listen to the petrol engines with the new particulate filter they now have to have fitted, apparently it completely ruins the sound...
Actually the New M2 Competition sounds really good with the filter on Still Pops and Bangs a lot It’s just Audi Sound engineers Are a joke Listen to the Rs4/5 they sound Awful and The New R8 V10 Performance sounds so muted No pops and bangs at all. My next Car will for sure Be A Bmw M Or AMG model As Audi can’t seem to make good sounding cars Anymore Apart from the Rs3 but we haven’t even heard what that will sound like with that Petrol filter.
I wouldn't be surprised in we don't soon, any exhausts that involve cat/res/gpf removal will be MOT failures, if not already...
So, I have an update. I’m probably one of the few customers, possibly the only one, with an outstanding order for an S4 back placed when good lease deals were made available, for a week or so, at the beginning of April 2018. The ongoing wait has been / still is tortuous and there’s still no real clue as to when I’ll get my car. But it is price protected.
Update from the dealer is that there is still no clue on timing. HOWEVER, the S4 / S5 / SQ5 will be a bi-turbo diesel with around 10bhp more than the current V6 petrol, i.e. 364bhp or so (and obviously a LOT more torque). Have to say that doesn’t displease me, for a price protected lease deal. It’ll likely be quicker and definitely more economical. It’s ‘just’ a case of when?!
It’s all down to emissions and WLTP: they couldn’t get the petrol to a place where it needed to be.
Seems odd, I ordered an s4 in early June and collected early October on a 68 plateIt’s all down to emissions and WLTP: they couldn’t get the petrol to a place where it needed to be.
Are we still talking about the same diesel that there used to be here?
Plumes of soot, only good when racking up miles, pants for short journeys and you have top up with ad blue that is made with pigs pi55?
I don't get it.
And I won't even mention diesel gate which cost vag billions of quids in fines a few years back.....