gearbox oil change query

[AndyW!]

Hi all,

firstly my car is an Audi A6 C6 3.0tdi Le Mans Auto.

Just been on the phone to Teesside Audi, to ask them prices on haldex and gearbox oil changes.

After giving them the chassis number as they were unable to find car based on reg, I was informed that the haldex is a sealed for life unit, and that also goes for the gearbox as well.

As it was Audi and they know best, I tend to disbelieve them so thought I would ask the real experts on here.

Any advice appreciated.

 

[c3nturi0n]

are you having any notable issues with yours...? and what is the mileage on a car?

Personally if it is a Tiptronic [fitted to all Quattro's] I wouldn't touch it... M'tronic - different story.

 

[AndyW!]

No, there arent any noticable issues with mine. Was really just looking to get it done with a main service due shortly thats all.

Car has done 65k.

Not sure if it's a multi or tip tbh. Its got flappy paddles if that makes any difference?

Thanks for reply.

 

[c3nturi0n]

I think 3.0TDI's only came in 4x4 mode [Quattro] and Tiptronic is the gearbox they used on them [don't know the ZF's code from top of my head]. One way to check/validate is to start the car and move gear lever to the right [tiptronic mode] and see how many gears/number pop on the dash.

1..6 - Tiptronic
1..7 - M'tronic

 

[Johny2202]

3.0TDI is always quattro and with tiptronic if there is no issue ( juddering or hard shift) then there is no need think about oil change. And yes normally this oil is lifetime.

 

[AndyW!]

Thanks guys, sequential goes up to 6th gear so it must be tiptronic as you say.

The only slight niggle i have is when the car is first started as in cold. When put in gear, the engine note will change slightly and there may be a few minor knocks but i would expect this with an auto box.

 

[B5NUT]

I'm getting my box serviced by these guy at the end of the month, they are one of the best in the UK been quoted just over £300 that includes a full flush. http://www.mackie-transmission.com/

The problem is what Audi say is the life of the car from my understanding it's 7 years and 100K miles, even ZF recommend the fluid changed after 100K, I'm on 200K so it's well over due..

 

[RoyC]

Same discusion. http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/...6HP19A-tiptronic-gearbox-(A6-3-0-TDI-Quattro)

 

[AndyW!]

Thanks for replies guys. Isn't it wonderful when you cant even trust the trustworthy dealer who know everything...

 

[igor781]

I had gearbox oil change in tiptronic (ZF).I had dynamic oil done 12 liters Ravenol oil http://ravenol-shop.co.uk/epages/cc...c-49cf-a1cd-10964cbd24e3/Categories/4/7/77/80

Gearbox work now silky smooth ...

 

[Bbflex]

No oil is lifetime use, audi only state "lifetime" as once warranty is over the faster it destroys itself the better, they say the gearbox is none serviceable but they started having a few problems before warranty ran out so now mention a 40k change to basically keep it going during warranty period, you'll also find the same box being used in a different marque somewhere will have a service squedule and more than likely uses the exact same oil :?

I'm new to autos iv always previously hated them, but I drive a lot of miles and they have gotten better since the old 3-4 speed days, and the 8 doesn't come with a manual, iv done a bit of reading as mine has just past 100k and it also needs the update and new oil because of the hooting noise when accelerating hard from low rpm, so I'll be having mine changed and in the process I'll have the diffs done too as yet again no oil lasts forever.

One thing I did read when looking for gearbox specialist is that this scare mongrey of changing oil and knackering your gearbox is usually down to an already goosed TC and basically the floating bits of clutch material in the oil is what keeps the friction going, once changed you'll loose the added friction then it's just a matter of time before you loose drive, also if it was me I'd be looking for someone that does pressure flushing to make sure all the crud is blown out, iv even considered driving to Germany and having ZF service it themselves, heard the service is second to none.