Folding mirrors retrofit

Potterswheel

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Hello
Just to make it clear what I am asking, has anyone tried this type of switch in an 8V?
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To my mind the only thing that's missing is the position for 'off' and I don't think you need that anyway, unless I am missing something??
IS the O position 'auto'
If this works there will be no need to change the armrest along with all the disturbance that will cause.
 

AlS3BE

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Hello
Just to make it clear what I am asking, has anyone tried this type of switch in an 8V?
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To my mind the only thing that's missing is the position for 'off' and I don't think you need that anyway, unless I am missing something??
IS the O position 'auto'
If this works there will be no need to change the armrest along with all the disturbance that will cause.

That won’t work as on the 8v the symbols are on the armrest trim not the switch and there’s no holes for those symbols to poke through.
Don’t think that switch is the same shape either. Will confirm later with the bits I have in my garage.
 

Potterswheel

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That won’t work as on the 8v the symbols are on the armrest trim not the switch and there’s no holes for those symbols to poke through.
Don’t think that switch is the same shape either. Will confirm later with the bits I have in my garage.
Hi thanks for the input - on my car a 2017 8V S3 saloon the holes are definitely in the armrest and there is a 'mask' which goes in-between the switch and the arm rest with the symbols on them, there are different masks, I have even considered adding the extra holes which also would save swapping out the armrest, (but leave an extra 'blank' hole)
This raises another question - The backlighting for the symbols is inside the switch, does anyone know what the difference in part code is between a switch with red led backlighting for the symbols is and a switch with white backlighting behind the symbols is? or is the backlighting all white and it's the mask colour which changes?
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The symbols are in a mask This is mine
 
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AlS3BE

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Hi thanks for the input - on my car a 2017 8V S3 saloon the holes are definitely in the armrest and there is a 'mask' which goes in-between the switch and the arm rest with the symbols on them, there are different masks, I have even considered adding the extra holes which also would save swapping out the armrest, (but leave an extra 'blank' hole)
This raises another question - The backlighting for the symbols is inside the switch, does anyone know what the difference in part code is between a switch with red led backlighting for the symbols is and a switch with white backlighting behind the symbols is? or is the backlighting all white and it's the mask colour which changes?
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The symbols are in a mask This is mine

These are the part numbers for my 18 s3 sport back, not sure if they are the same as saloon.
8v0959565n switch with white backlighting
8v4959522b armrest trim with holes for the lighting from the switch.
If I remember right it was about £50-60 for the 2 delivered from Crewe Audi on here.
 

Potterswheel

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Great @AlS3BE thanks for looking, glad to see we are now singing off the same sheet.
There seem to be so many part N°'s for the same switch, weird
I have asked Tom at Crewe Audi for a price today but didn't have the N°'s, for that price it's not worth messing about with, in fact I think they want more second hand!!!

Yes I thought they were, this one says it is red:-
 
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AlS3BE

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Great @AlS3BE thanks for looking, glad to see we are now singing off the same sheet.
There seem to be so many part N°'s for the same switch, weird
I have asked Tom at Crewe Audi for a price today but didn't have the N°'s, for that price it's not worth messing about with, in fact I think they want more second hand!!!

Yes I thought they were, this one says it is red:-

£58 for a used one !!
Definitely didn’t pay that much, remember switch and trim was pretty cheap, trim might have been something like £15-20 so the new switch is like £25-30. total was around £400 for 2 mirrors without caps, switch and trim. All brand new. Luckily didn’t need mirror modules as some have as thats another couple of hundred quid.
Maybe exchange rates have changed since brexit and everything is more expensive.
 

Potterswheel

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£58 for a used one !!
Definitely didn’t pay that much, remember switch and trim was pretty cheap, trim might have been something like £15-20 so the new switch is like £25-30. total was around £400 for 2 mirrors without caps, switch and trim. All brand new. Luckily didn’t need mirror modules as some have as thats another couple of hundred quid.
Maybe exchange rates have changed since brexit and everything is more expensive.
When you say "switch and trim" do you mean the mask which fits around the switch or the complete arm rest? and did you have much fun changing the armrest
 

AlS3BE

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When you say "switch and trim" do you mean the mask which fits around the switch or the complete arm rest? and did you have much fun changing the armrest

Armrest trim on the door card. I’ve not fitted the trim yet, didn’t have the right tools at the time so just put the switch in. The symbols are wrong but the switch fits in place. Will get round to it hopefully next week now the kids are back at school.
 

Potterswheel

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Right, so the armrest is called the trim? so you have the new switch under the existing armrest like I was suggesting?
 

AlS3BE

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Right, so the armrest is called the trim? so you have the new switch under the existing armrest like I was suggesting?

Think the armrest trim piece is officially called the bezel from Audi. Nothing like trying to confuse folk ordering parts.
Will have a look at the boxes in the garage next time I’m in there.
 

Potterswheel

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I have just placed my order with Crewe Audi for the following Items:-
8V0959565n switch with white backlighting £40.00
8V4959522b switch trim/grab handle £20.00
switch mask which I don't yet have the part N° for £4.50
There are charlatans charging more than this on ebay for second hand rubbish which they have mauled off a scrap/stolen car and they don't understand what they are selling, lesson learned here .................... I can do without the hassle
 

Smurf S3

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Did this swap today. Took like 2 hours to do the drivers side and about 20 minutes to do the other lol. Took me a minute to notice the cable wrapped behind the channel for the window (DUH)
To anyone asking about the armrest trim removal : you need to remove the t15 torx screws. There are also a few spots that are melted plastic that are holding it together. If you pull hard enough they will snap off. Or you could be smart and heat them up. Either way it doesnt affect how secure the arm is.
 

Potterswheel

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I did my folding mirrors last week, couple of things I found out which may help others and add to the accumulated knowledge :-
Firstly I used a dent 'sucker' to remove the glass, cost £3.00 and removed the glass a treat, without risking breaking the £40.00 + glass.
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Secondly, I used a piece of cable attached to the old mirror connector and 'pulled it in' to the inside of thedoor when removing the old mirror, I simply attached the new connector to this cable and pulled it round the window track when installing the new mirror the cable had to follow the correct route then, all that was left then was to replace the two 'fir trees' and job was a good un.
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orange cable attached to old connector inside the door, cable routing

I removed the round plastic welded fixings with an 8mm spot weld removal drill and then replaced each one with spare self tappers previously swapped from inside the arch liners by drilling a 3mm hole in the center of each 'post' and then screwing in the 'big head' screws, this made a good job of fixing the arm rest back in place. I cut the 'flap fixing off with a small disk in a Dremmel and rewelded it with a soldering iron,. You do wonder why Audi fixed it in place with mixed fixings and did not either use all plastic welds or all screws, weird! Perhaps made in one place (country) and assembled in another.
 

Smurf S3

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Only thing I haven’t gotten to work is the mmi menu. The mirrors fold in on lock and unfold when starting the car. The switch works as well.
perhaps something is done differently in VCDS in my 2017.
I feel like I scored on these used mirrors. Going from heated manual fold to heated land auto dimming power folding. The glass price for these is astronomical.
 

Potterswheel

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Ever wondered what was inside a door ECU??
door ecu inside.jpg

lots going on in there, this was a standard ECU that was bundled with my power fold mirrors, fortunately my existing ones were fine as this one had been butchered out of the car!!!!!! there wern't enough pins for the N° of cables in the mirror plugs and I doubt that the right software (firmware) is loaded.
nice ornament though!!! I always think PCB's look like small cities.
I am still tidying up after a busy few weeks!!
 
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