Pics to follow Hello again whilst i was trolling around eBay for bits for my Park assist retrofit i found a set of wing mirrors on there and figured "im gonna be doing the front end again soon anyway" so i bought them only to find that they're auto dimming and folding RESULT!. Anyway i took a break from swapping out steering racks, abs units and brake lines etc so had my mate spray the caps, fitted the mirrors along with new door control units (though didn't actually need them ah well) ran a few wires through each A piller fitted the switch after waiting for the trims to come off back order. After wiring it all up i found that they didn't fold on the remote which is a massive oversight in my opinion but anyway i did some searching and sent a few messages with no replies. I found a German wiring diagram in another post and got myself the famous "361 relay" and wired it as close to the diagram as possible bypassing the door ecu and wiring direct hence ecu not really needed as i could have ran a wire for the indicator, never mind they're in now. After finding the live and earth to the mirrors was the wrong way around ie lock fold out unlock fold in and swapping them it worked on the remote but not the switch as the motors weren't connected to it anymore. I also found i'd put the signal wire onto the lock/unlock signal and not the safe wire so my lock button would fold them in DOH!!!! This was bugging the f"£k out of me for a while and one night i thought "sod it can't be bothered to think about it now" and whist relaxing with tut xbox it hit me SWITCHING RELAYS. I found that when the signal wire on the 361 relay goes open circuit the mirrors fold in and when wire is put to earth they fold out. So as i stupidly wired the signal wire to the wrong wire i came up with a circuit based on ignition live (15) that would fix my mistake and also restore the use of the switch in the door card using two 395 or 646 relays and modifying the mirror switch using some conductive tape, glue, and some wire. the circuit, when the keys out the lock/unlock signal controls the mirrors going via one of the relays for eg relay 1 is in its closed position. when the ignition is switched on relay 1 fed by terminal 15 switches and diverts the signal from the door lock sends it through into relay 2 and passes through it in its closed position to earth keeping the mirrors folded out so i can use the lock button if i like and they stay out. Lastly i needed the mirror switch to supply an earth for relay 2 so it would switch the signal from earth to open circuit. I took the mirror switch apart and found the bottom right part of the round contact needed covering for protection as i didn't want to short the switch out. I want to say at this point that this is only a temp solution i'll revisit this eventually and come up with something more hard wearing. What i needed was something to provide a coating on top of the pcb so i could lay two contacts on top and as the switch has a soft spring inside it would cut through it so i carefully put 2 small dabs of Q-Bond over the contacts then spread it over the right side giving plenty of time to dry and testing with a meter for a circuit finding none. Then i got some sticky back foil tape that we're using on a Touran recall atm carefully cut two pieces long enough to go to each contact and down the side of the switch then fitting them rebuilding the switch attaching two wires to the tape one cutting into to pin 2 (earth) and one running down to the wire waiting in the a pillar and connecting the other side to relay 2 earth. ALL that done tested and remote mirrors, lock button doesnt fold the mirrors when ignitions on and the switch folds the mirrors in also just to add i find they work better this way as there was a delay in moving the switch to the mirrors moving and now its obviously as soon as you move the switch they go. i'll be posting more later but wanted to get this done now i'll probably be moving the signal to the safe wire tomorrow if i can find the energy to go looking for it i'll modify the diagram acordingly. Hope this helps someone and hopefully people can put the information to good use.