Estoril blue s3 8p sportback

[paddy]

That torque curve looks low for a stg2+. In standard form they put out 258ft-lb.

The power looks to come in at the end of the rev range.

Sam , the whole chart looks wrong, that cant be 325 WHP, that would be about 430 bhp ? and if its stg 2+ and only 325bhp then he has a problem ?

 

[miltybilty]

It had a visual health check and scanned for codes prior to having the map done , dip stick was replaced , dv stripped and rebuilt iv even replaced that for the newer item now .. the car definitely comes on strong at 4/4.5k also had timing chain,sump/pickup clean , runner flap delete, inlet valve cleans and full service including dsg oil and drivetrain oils so I believe the car should be spot on but as you say may be worth scanning over everything to double check everything is as should be
I am based in Middlewich it’s a good trip to r tech as I nearly booked in unicorn is a lot closer I believe

Would you care to post some videos of your car? ....

I'm interested to see what the exhaust sound is like with that RFD done.

Plus a blue car doing a flyby is always nice.



Cheers.

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[leshkin]

Sam , the whole chart looks wrong, that cant be 325 WHP, that would be about 430 bhp ? and if its stg 2+ and only 325bhp then he has a problem ?

That graph seems incredibly odd for STG2+, given the torque figure. Seems like a decent STG2 figure.

The graph does say that those are HP figures, so I don't think it's a STG2+ map... Or a badly calibrated dyno

 

[ElzLewis]

Would you care to post some videos of your car? ....

I'm interested to see what the exhaust sound is like with that RFD done.

Plus a blue car doing a flyby is always nice.



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I would love to but I am yet to be able to do it! I will try and figure it out aha! Thanks

That graph seems incredibly odd for STG2+, given the torque figure. Seems like a decent STG2 figure.

The graph does say that those are HP figures, so I don't think it's a STG2+ map... Or a badly calibrated dyno

I am also at a loss .. he told me it is displaying whp so the bhp figure would be around 370 according to the tuner but unsure what route to go next .. may book in at awesome gti to have a dyno run performed and go from there ? Not really sure what else to do .. had a play with a new ish a class Amg Mercedes and was fairly even and they are 360-380?

 

[leshkin]

I am also at a loss .. he told me it is displaying whp so the bhp figure would be around 370 according to the tuner but unsure what route to go next .. may book in at awesome gti to have a dyno run performed and go from there ? Not really sure what else to do .. had a play with a new ish a class Amg Mercedes and was fairly even and they are 360-380?

I would get it dyno'd elsewhere and that would give you a decent comparison. AwesomeGTI would be a good bet. If you can get Rick at Unicorn to dyno it for you, then that would also be a solid option as he is pretty particular about keeping it calibrated.

 

[paddy]

Agree with Lesh, first thing to do is get a second opinion if it bothers you but Dyno's are notorious for odd numbers and best to compare figures from same car same dyno, use it as a comparator rather than a set in stone performance bible..
Often a 2WD dyno will calculate 4WD cars but the figures for 4x4, Haldex 4WD and permanent 4WD vary hugely not to mention Auto/Manual and DSG as well. All these will give a different loss in the drive train.
I started to question my figures looking at yours, i have 251whp and 375 bhp corrected to 381bhp. so a large gap between whp and bhp however the thing goes like scalded cat and is struggling to put the power down even with ESP engaged. Glued to the tail of a 4.5ltr V8 maserati last week i was more than happy. Truth is with his 450bhp and i suspect quite a bit of extra weight , once you get to these figures you need big differences to make noticeable differences IMHO. wind resistance and drag/weight is your real enemy .
If you take a car that does a standing 1/4 mile in say 13 seconds say a manual S3 you would need to add about 10 rwhp to knock 1 tenth of that time. but a car doing a 10 second 1/4 mile would need 15whp to knock a tenth off its time.
What i am getting at is you could be 40whp down on the car in front but cross the line just .3 second behind him which you are going to say was pretty much a dead heat.

Starting to rabbit now so i will shut up

 

[ElzLewis]

Agree with Lesh, first thing to do is get a second opinion if it bothers you but Dyno's are notorious for odd numbers and best to compare figures from same car same dyno, use it as a comparator rather than a set in stone performance bible..
Often a 2WD dyno will calculate 4WD cars but the figures for 4x4, Haldex 4WD and permanent 4WD vary hugely not to mention Auto/Manual and DSG as well. All these will give a different loss in the drive train.
I started to question my figures looking at yours, i have 251whp and 375 bhp corrected to 381bhp. so a large gap between whp and bhp however the thing goes like scalded cat and is struggling to put the power down even with ESP engaged. Glued to the tail of a 4.5ltr V8 maserati last week i was more than happy. Truth is with his 450bhp and i suspect quite a bit of extra weight , once you get to these figures you need big differences to make noticeable differences IMHO. wind resistance and drag/weight is your real enemy .
If you take a car that does a standing 1/4 mile in say 13 seconds say a manual S3 you would need to add about 10 rwhp to knock 1 tenth of that time. but a car doing a 10 second 1/4 mile would need 15whp to knock a tenth off its time.
What i am getting at is you could be 40whp down on the car in front but cross the line just .3 second behind him which you are going to say was pretty much a dead heat.

Starting to rabbit now so i will shut up

Mine doesn’t struggle to put the power down the esp light will flash up if I’m really pressing on in the lower gears I think I definitely need to get it on a 4wd dyno.. also my car is DSG if that makes any difference ?? Just bugs me I’m not fussed about numbers but if people are saying my car is down on power that isn’t ideal .. for instance my brother has a 17 plate s3 which is standard and he does agree mine is alot more aggressive and quicker but 70hp more I’m not sure!
Thanks for all the help everyone ..

 

[ElzLewis]

I would get it dyno'd elsewhere and that would give you a decent comparison. AwesomeGTI would be a good bet. If you can get Rick at Unicorn to dyno it for you, then that would also be a solid option as he is pretty particular about keeping it calibrated.

Will contact both companies and see which one can fit me in first I guess aha! Itching to find out I’m guessing running on a 2wd dyno shouldn’t affect the figure as it’s still only measuring 2 wheels. Thanks!

 

[samuelh_888]

Will contact both companies and see which one can fit me in first I guess aha! Itching to find out I’m guessing running on a 2wd dyno shouldn’t affect the figure as it’s still only measuring 2 wheels. Thanks!

Are you measuring power at 2 wheels or are you measuring engine output via some form of logging?

 

[ElzLewis]

Are you measuring power at 2 wheels or are you measuring engine output via some form of logging?

Done on a 2wd dyno he said to me the results are in WHP as he couldn’t do a coast down run due to it being an automatic car and having no clutch?? Unsure if that makes any sense aha!

 

[ElzLewis]

Small update on this.. I am now booked in at Awesome GTI next Friday so if I post the graph on here can people help me out ?
Thanks!

 

[ElzLewis]

Got the Coilovers/wheels installed and 4 wheel alignment done this week
To say I’m happy is an understatement

Off to awesome on Friday morning for the rolling road so will see how my map is acting and what figures she pulls and report back!
Thanks

 

[miltybilty]

Looks stunner ....

How does it ride with those 19's ??

Bit stiffer than stock with the coils?

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[ElzLewis]

Only drove it as far as work today but feels so much tighter and sure footed but as you say the ride is firmer but no means uncomfortable I’d say it’s better than standard but then again iv always had coilovers on my cars

Looks stunner ....

How does it ride with those 19's ??

Bit stiffer than stock with the coils?

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[samuelh_888]

Looks great @ElzLewis!

 

[tcardio]

Great looking whip! Those wheels give me OCD anxiety!

 

[ElzLewis]

Looks great @ElzLewis!

Thanks man! And thanks for the advice these ride great

Great looking whip! Those wheels give me OCD anxiety!

Thanks! But why aha

 

[Niffty9]

Those are the nicest aftermarket wheels I've seen on this shape s3.

It looks track ready, calls out for a spot of racing colour on the tyres like the old P-zero red logo or continental yellow.

 

[ElzLewis]

They weren’t actually my first choice of wheel but I believe I like these more than the original idea anyway! Aha and unfortunately I don’t think falken on the side would look good .. maybe in a few months when I get some new tyres aha!

Those are the nicest aftermarket wheels I've seen on this shape s3.

It looks track ready, calls out for a spot of racing colour on the tyres like the old P-zero red logo or continental yellow.

 

[Daveyonthemove]

I like the alloys, they suit it but I think the red centre cap looks out of place.
There is no other red on the car, so they don't tie in with a colour scheme. Just my personal opinion, but as I said, the wheels look nice.

 

[ElzLewis]

I like the alloys, they suit it but I think the red centre cap looks out of place.
There is no other red on the car, so they don't tie in with a colour scheme. Just my personal opinion, but as I said, the wheels look nice.

Maybe it doesn’t come across that way in photos but the rear lights are bright red so are the S3 badges I think it works quite well but I do also have the original grey ones from the other picture so I will be trying them on also .. then again thought about getting the callipers done red
Cheers

 

[miltybilty]

Maybe it doesn’t come across that way in photos but the rear lights are bright red so are the S3 badges I think it works quite well but I do also have the original grey ones from the other picture so I will be trying them on also .. then again thought about getting the callipers done red
Cheers

The red looks great ....
Maybe try red tinting on the fogs .... Although it may be illegal.
I think red accents on that blue looks quite nice.

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[Niffty9]

Small update on this.. I am now booked in at Awesome GTI next Friday so if I post the graph on here can people help me out ?
Thanks!

Sooo.. I'm waiting on the edge of my seat

 

[ElzLewis]

Sooo.. I'm waiting on the edge of my seat

So am I!
Car has a fuelling issue that I wasn’t aware about ( dead injector or dodger fuel sensor and is currently in the garage being investigated

 

[samuelh_888]

So am I!
Car has a fuelling issue that I wasn’t aware about ( dead injector or dodger fuel sensor and is currently in the garage being investigated

Any update Eliot?

 

[ElzLewis]

Any update Eliot?

Well, I had my injectors cleaned, new metal baskets fitted to them and timing back in tolerance apparently only pulls 3 degrees of timing right before the redline? I am told this is within tolerance (awesome Gti) whereas with the bad injectors it was pulling 12 degrees as soon as the pedal was touched never noticed a massive difference in performance/fuel economy it just felt a lot smoother which I guess is a bonus .. the tuner and I need to log the car again now it has been used for a few weeks and just check it’s still ok then I can look at dyno runs again!
Apparently the sensors and fuel pressure was all ok even though it stated a fault of fuel pressure sensor and it running lean which I’m lead to believe is down to the incorrect spray pattern and the old plastic failing on the injectors ?
Thanks!

 

[nluk100]

Who's doing your mapping as there is a big difference between the specialist 2.0l tfsi tuners and some of the other generic tuners that can map all cars when you go past stage 1?

 

[leshkin]

Sounds like a result there! Good thing you caught this in time as faulty injectors have been known to make engines run too lean and go bang.

 

[ElzLewis]

Who's doing your mapping as there is a big difference between the specialist 2.0l tfsi tuners and some of the other generic tuners that can map all cars when you go past stage 1?

Local place to me who I have used before with no ill effects .. mapped my old 1.8t which ran fine and he tuned his brothers with hybrid and gt30 turbo amongst others so fairly confident with the map but I know Rtech are the go to for maps

Sounds like a result there! Good thing you caught this in time as faulty injectors have been known to make engines run too lean and go bang.

Yes luckily the fault codes only appeared 6-7 days before the rolling road so hopefully I hadn’t been running around with dodgey ones for too long but who knows! And upon inspection of the plugs and other things everything seemed fine until injectors were removed and the injector place presumed they were high mileage 2nd hand hobbies when my car has only covered 52k which he believes is down to crap supermarket fuels?

 

[ElzLewis]

I must say I do enjoy this car more and more .. the only thing spoiling it is long journeys and massive droning from the exhaust
stuck what other little bits I can do to improve the looks..
Also contemplating a brake upgrade along the line of TTS discs and decent pads or just go the 345mm discs and pads
What do people recommend ?
Thanks

 

[tcardio]

consider a . VIBRANT resonator after the cat to get rid of drone if you have a straight pipe only to rear box

 

[ElzLewis]

consider a . VIBRANT resonator after the cat to get rid of drone if you have a straight pipe only to rear box

Thanks! I will have a look into this but I have no cat and it has a small box just before the rear beam then another small box acting as a back box but the drone at around 2.5k revs in 6th is dreadful!
Cheers

 

[miltybilty]

Thanks! I will have a look into this but I have no cat and it has a small box just before the rear beam then another small box acting as a back box but the drone at around 2.5k revs in 6th is dreadful!
Cheers

Stock catback?
If not, what brand?
If I keep my A3 I'm gonna run catless with just a vibrant highflow #1972 resonator .... Should be good but maybe a tad loud.

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[ElzLewis]

Stock catback?
If not, what brand?
If I keep my A3 I'm gonna run catless with just a vibrant highflow #1972 resonator .... Should be good but maybe a tad loud.

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It’s a full stainless turbo back exhaust made by infinity before I purchased it obviously so I had a small backbox fitted which whilst it helped tone it down the drone is still very apparent

 

[miltybilty]

It’s a full stainless turbo back exhaust made by infinity before I purchased it obviously so I had a small backbox fitted which whilst it helped tone it down the drone is still very apparent

Cool.
Are they both box type mufflers?
You could swap the forward box for a vibrant bottle style res or vibrant ultra-quiet.

They'll both tone down the drone ....
Amazon has some great reviews on both.

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[Daveyonthemove]

I was looking at Vibrant and did ask a member on here for some more info, but they never responded so I left it.
In the end I had the centre muffler removed and replaced with a straight through pipe. It's given the exhaust a bit more noise but the back box stops it droning, which is exactly what I was looking for. Doesn't look like you have that option with your set up.

 

[miltybilty]

Cool.
Are they both box type mufflers?
You could swap the forward box for a vibrant bottle style res or vibrant ultra-quiet.

They'll both tone down the drone ....
Amazon has some great reviews on both.

Amazon product

Amazon product"&dpPl=1&dpID=312mynVifCL&ref=plSrch

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Links won't work.

Try try again.

Edit: damnit .... links won't work.

On Amazon look up vibrant 1974 and vibrant 1142

Both 3" resonators of various quietness.



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[Daveyonthemove]

For some reason, links to Amazon don't work on this forum.

 

[ElzLewis]

Thanks for the replies and will look into those boxes And this is how my exhaust system looks the first picture is the small box added later on to tone things down slightly!

 

[Daveyonthemove]

Where are the ridges on your diffuser?