Engine Oil For 8V RS3

nikolai briton

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I have been looking on several sites regarding oil I am just looking to buy some to keep as a top up but I am getting conflicting views! what are you guys using and recommending??
 

josedebardi

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Audi top mine up for free as and when. Never asked what they put in.


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nikolai briton

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Audi top mine up for free as and when. Never asked what they put in.


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really? I may need to ask them for this service! will check my dipstick now because I have a feeling my car has drunk a lot of it since I got it from new just hit 1000 miles with it
 

josedebardi

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really? I may need to ask them for this service! will check my dipstick now because I have a feeling my car has drunk a lot of it since I got it from new just hit 1000 miles with it

They've always done it for my last 3 cars. It appeared to just be a standard thing they mention during handover.


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Gazwould

Registered User
Me too , we've had enough of them , it's not rocket science .

504.00 507.00 is high quality because it's a LongLife oil and feeds 99% of VAG engines .

If you want something even higher quality and your pockets are deeper and you need it because , yours..

Uses oil

Is used in a hot country

Is subject to regular long prelonged periods of full throttle on the Autobahn or race track

Is Stage 2+ and you want or have been recommended for the extra protection

Then choose an Ester racing oil by

Red Line
Motul 300V
Fuchs Titan Race Pro S
Gulf Competition
and Millers Nanodrive CFS .
 

terminator x

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This is is correct stuff as left in my boot.

TX.
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AudiNutta

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Regardless of what Audi put in the boot, they use Quantam oils out of a jack.

I have to query the service on my 1.4TFSi next week, the manual recommends 0W-30 and that's what was in the car when delivered but Audi have invoiced the service that was done yesterday as 5W-30.
 

RYes3

Registered User
Mine came with 5w 40. Having had an 8P RS3 prior to the 8V, this confused me, the 8P always used 5w 30.

I called my dealer to query this and he told me that the system shows that 5w 40 is the right oil to use in an RS3. I wanted this clarifying and he logged a ticket with Audi direct, I'm still waiting to hear back.
 

RYes3

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This:

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RYes3

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Oh God not again....

That's a medium quality oil !

hence my questioning it... My concern at this moment is that my dealer are telling me that this is the correct oil. Still no word from Audi UK.

Out of interest, what makes it medium quality? the 5w 40 or the 502?
 

Gazwould

Registered User
502.00 but some are just 502.00 505.00 but Quantum Platinum will be better cause it's 502.00 505.01 but not as good as 504.00.
 

superkarl

MAN OF STEEL
Then choose an Ester racing oil by

Red Line
Motul 300V
Fuchs Titan Race Pro S
Gulf Competition
and Millers Nanodrive CFS .

This.

Simply stating the viscosity and synthetic/Semi synthetic is not enough a classification for oils.

High performance engines = ester based.

The dealers ARE giving you correct oil, but they aren't giving you the BEST oil.
 

RYes3

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Just spoken to the dealer, will be dropping off for an oil change, can't say fairer than that I suppose.
 

Gazwould

Registered User
This.

Simply stating the viscosity and synthetic/Semi synthetic is not enough a classification for oils.

High performance engines = ester based.

The dealers ARE giving you correct oil, but they aren't giving you the BEST oil.


As with everything a bit of marketing going on , even fully synthetic isn't fully synthetic cause group 3 oil basestock is a severely hydrocracked mineral oil .

With anything saying its Ester based which is top group 5 it certainly won't be just group 5 but a combination of 4 and 5 or 3, 4 and 5 and the percentage of 5 is usually 10 - 20 % .

I think 3 , 4 and 5 is better as it combines the different qualities of each group .

Which is interesting as a piece albeit a single piece of evidence from a German lab says 504.00 507.00 is 3 , 4 and 5 .

I wonder what percentage the Ester is !

I don't think all 504.00 507.00 are 3 , 4 and 5 and I don't know what brand was tested , VW's own Quantum ?
 

XPOWER

Registered User
My car has just covered 2,000 miles so I thought it was time to check the oil.
It was down but above min level so I put 400ml in which brought it just below max.
Audi didn't supply me with Castrol but Mobil 1.


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Has Volkswagen changed its recommended brand to Mobil 1?
 

Gazwould

Registered User
It doesn't matter, it's who can supply what at an attractive cost .

Shell Helix Ultra Professional
Mobil 1 ESP
Quantum LongLife III
Castrol Edge

All approved 504.00 507.00 .
 

RYes3

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For free? My oil change is £300+.

TX.

Yeah, they supplied the wrong oil for the car and some has been added so it's the least they can do as far as I'm concerned.
 

prt57

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Easiest way to stop any confusion is for you to supply the oil you want putting in your car.
I took my son's Golf 7 R in for a service at the local VW garage and asked for VW spec 504 oil to be used. When I saw the invoice I noticed that VW spec 502 has been used.
During the booking in process, I asked which brand of oil was used in their garage and the service receptionist said Honda!! I asked him to check and he came back saying Shell 504 spec which I would have been happy with.
I complained to the service manager who said they had used the correct oil for an annual service in spite of me asking for longlife.
He would not budge when I asked for it to be changed to what I asked for.
First thing when I got home was to order from ECP and change the oil myself.
The net result is that neither of our VW cars goes there for any work so the pedant lost our custom.
So last week my S3 8P at stage 2+ went to Audi with 5 litres of Millers Nanodrive in the boot. Our TT will go with Castrol Edge and so any concern is eliminated.

Many years ago, my Dad who was a very keen DIY mechanic told me "The best oil is the cheapest"
To start with, I could not understand this as he always bought Castrol which was expensive. When I asked him to explain, he completed the sentence fully.
"The best oil is the cheapest in the long run".
He never had any bearing type problems in his cars.
 

prt57

Registered User
It wasn't an Indie, it was the local VW garage.
Unsure about the exact specification but it was not what I asked for.
I also have a Golf GTI 1.8T bought new in 1998. I have always had fully synthetic long life oil installed and been happy to pay the difference if asked. It has been remapped for 35,000 miles and now at 107,000 miles it runs very sweetly with virtually no oil usage.

What p****s me off is that we all have an interest in our cars on here whereas it is rare to find someone who works at the main dealer with the same interest from my experience.
At my local Audi garage recently, I have had conversations with 2 people who work there. Both said words to the effect that they are not interested in cars and it is only a job!
 

Acer

Registered User
Here in Australia I can confirm Audi dealers use Castrol Edge Professional 5W-30 as per Teminator X's post above in the RS3 engines. I checked with service manager after taking delivery of my RS3 a few months ago & this is what they showed me & recommended. Off course other brands may offer oils with similar attributes.

Cheers,

Michael
 

D0C

Registered User
Having a debate with a friend who says I should get my car serviced by an independent and that it won't affect resale. I appreciate you don't lose your warranty these days by going independent, but personally when I'm buying a car I want to see that it has a full main dealer service history.

Thoughts anyone?
 

terminator x

Registered User
I'd expect a car to have main dealer servicing for first 3 years. Perhaps I'm old school though ;)

TX.

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Callum66

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How good is your main dealer?
 

Callum66

Registered User
As you have guessed, that was my point. A lot of main dealers provide a mediocre service with little attention to detail and poor value for money. I understand what you're getting at but, for me, a FSH from a good independent or specialist would be of greater interest.
 

festuc

Registered User
If you want to choose motul wich one do you think it's better? The two meets 504.00

Motul 8100 X-clean+ 5W-30
Motul Specific 504 00 507 00 5W-30
 

76MC

Registered User
I spoke with a trusted chap in parts at the local VW dealer. I asked the same question about oil grades, it would appear that the 5w/30 oil is used in Long Life Servicing and then the 5w/40 is used when fixed/annual servicing is chosen.
 

festuc

Registered User
After searching a little bit, it seems that the Motul 8100 X-clean+ 5W-30 is a very good one because of the low sulfated ash of 0.61% weight (ASTM D874).
 
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