Dilemma - B9 S4 or B8 RS4

Robbe

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The dealer was able to reduce the Apr manually himself. Think I got below 5% and a decent final value. So their is room for negotiation.

I want them to just stick a new gearbox in it and give it back. Keep looking at other RS4s and not found one with the same spec or condition within my price range.
 

Thundercliffe81

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The dealer was able to reduce the Apr manually himself. Think I got below 5% and a decent final value. So their is room for negotiation.

I want them to just stick a new gearbox in it and give it back. Keep looking at other RS4s and not found one with the same spec or condition within my price range.

Well, it's absolutely ALL on them mate. You'll be back in one soon. Hopefully yours. They've lent you an S6 so they'll surely be wanting to resolve this soon.

Motonovo doesn't actually show a pcp rate. Just 'dealer arranged' and other mortgage backed options etc. But I didn't know Audi could drop used apr below 9.9? I've seen anything between 9.9 and 12.9.


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Robbe

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I went in with my own finance figures and asked them to match it and they did. Think some dealers are able to offer finance from other companies. In the end they get their money. Worth asking about other finance if available. Try moneysupermarket for car loans. Gives an idea of what is arouns.

They still have the S6 I have as available for sale at the dealer. So it's in thier best interest to get it resolved as I am putting more miles on the car.
 

DeanoC

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Well, it's absolutely ALL on them mate. You'll be back in one soon. Hopefully yours. They've lent you an S6 so they'll surely be wanting to resolve this soon.

Motonovo doesn't actually show a pcp rate. Just 'dealer arranged' and other mortgage backed options etc. But I didn't know Audi could drop used apr below 9.9? I've seen anything between 9.9 and 12.9.


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I had 3.4% audi approved used last year via blackhorse with 50% deposit

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RS4B8LYF

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I'm possibly selling mine, it's had full DRC replaced and now sunroof with cassette which means having had these issues sorted and balance of warranty till 2018 March it's a good buy, anyone interested?


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Thundercliffe81

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Off to Alexanders tomorrow to inquire about PCP buy out and APR. Ready for a slap in the face but worth it to drool some more over their stock


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DeanoC

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50% deposit. Exactly I aint that rich unfortunately.


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But it shows they will shop the market outside of audi finance if they want a sale. They might want the sale for many reasons - time of the month, can't shift the car, want your part ex for a customer.....

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Thundercliffe81

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But it shows they will shop the market outside of audi finance if they want a sale. They might want the sale for many reasons - time of the month, can't shift the car, want your part ex for a customer.....

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I stand corrected. Your point in principle is right. Shopping around for some ammo to take with me to that conversation haha.


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Thundercliffe81

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So. Popped along to Alexanders (couple of photos below) and as usual, excellent staff. Warm welcome etc. They buy people out of their PCP all the time but usually best at half way mark they said. Or even make some overpayments to get there sooner.

APR is dependent upon cars age more than miles on used PCP. Learned a few things. With protected PCP the customer is in a better place than they used to be with settlement etc. About 6-7% was their average. Still can't see details on motonovo website but as @DeanoC said, mainstream dealers, although less flexible, can indeed alter the APR quite a bit dependent on their motive.

Going to message dealer down south to tell him the plan/intent and see if it's worth exploring.

But, good to know there's a local option. It was a Sazuka Grey RS4 so not my colour but I dunno...it just looks so mean. So much more about it than my S4. Even though my interior is stunning.

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Robbe

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Well looks like tomorrow I will be placing an order for a new S4. After a lot of thinking and driving another RS4 and a new S4. I have gone for the S4 with a lot of options. Did help that my local dealer has done a very good deal for me. Only downside is having to wait until November for the car.
 

Keeperlit

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I've just bought a b9 S4 avant for the "family"....I have to say it is a phenomenal car to live with on a daily basis. It will never embarrass you in any company with 4.7 to 60 and the cabin is just such a pleasant place to be. It makes a fantastic sound, not snarling or brutal but purposeful and powerful. I absolutely love it, but then again I enjoy the understated Q car concept. I've owned everything from e46 m3 to a 911 and I've driven the awesome 4.2 b8 rs4. I totally agree it's a special car with that engine, but it really is showing its age and I guarantee you will feel every bit as special everytime to press that button in your b9 s4! Enjoy whatever you decide. Regards Leigh
 

Thundercliffe81

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I've just bought a b9 S4 avant for the "family"....I have to say it is a phenomenal car to live with on a daily basis. It will never embarrass you in any company with 4.7 to 60 and the cabin is just such a pleasant place to be. It makes a fantastic sound, not snarling or brutal but purposeful and powerful. I absolutely love it, but then again I enjoy the understated Q car concept. I've owned everything from e46 m3 to a 911 and I've driven the awesome 4.2 b8 rs4. I totally agree it's a special car with that engine, but it really is showing its age and I guarantee you will feel every bit as special everytime to press that button in your b9 s4! Enjoy whatever you decide. Regards Leigh

Great write up


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Robbe

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Have just sent a long letter to the dealer I got the RS4 from asking for a full refund as if I had never had the car. This includes full refund on the tax, car insurance and first finance payments. Hopefully they will respect my request. In the mean time I will be placing the order for the S4 tomorrow and then look for a bike to get me to work and back.
 

RS4B8LYF

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Who are you ordering the S4 through....the same dealer? Never show a your cards!


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Robbe

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Who are you ordering the S4 through....the same dealer? Never show a your cards!


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Hell no.... will never go near them. Getting the car from my local Audi which I trust and done a very good deal that I cannot refuse.
 

Thundercliffe81

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Here we are then. First thoughts? I think it looks awesome. Truly. For some reason, the V6 suits it better than the RS5 but still missing what we all wanted. I think, as a package though, this makes more sense than the RS5.

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Robbe

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It does look nice but starting at £70k!!! some nice options like the RS5 and will be silly mone. Thats a £25K jump from the S4 to just get 100PS or so more. Could probably modify a S4 to be better for less

Saying that if i won the lottery then i would probably get a fully loaded one.. :)
 

alFR

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I guess that's what you expect with a RS. Time to start saving (B10 or B11 would be out by the time I could afford one though, barring a lottery win).
 

Thundercliffe81

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It does look nice but starting at £70k!!! some nice options like the RS5 and will be silly mone. Thats a £25K jump from the S4 to just get 100PS or so more. Could probably modify a S4 to be better for less

Saying that if i won the lottery then i would probably get a fully loaded one.. :)

What?! £70k???? Is that official? Surely not.


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RS4B8LYF

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Over 100k fully specced. The S4 like all other sub-top performance cars that get modded across the board aren't fully equipped mechanically as the models we want them to be.....thus invalid warranties, over stressed parts and owners, this is my uneducated opinion though.....be warned!


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Thundercliffe81

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Over 100k fully specced. The S4 like all other sub-top performance cars that get modded across the board aren't fully equipped mechanically as the models we want them to be.....thus invalid warranties, over stressed parts and owners, this is my uneducated opinion though.....be warned!


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I wouldn't put that kind of cash into my S4 anyway. Even a remap. It can't be £70k though. The RS5 was always more than the 4?


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Thundercliffe81

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Just read that the sports diff is optional? Pistonheads review. Can't be? Audi are milking this generation of buyers.


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