Dead P-Zero’s
- Thread starter AudiNutta
- Start date
P-Zero
Thing is, if you go to Audi with any noise or rumble with the Michelin’s on you can guarantee they will dismiss any warranty and blame the non factory tyres. I don’t have any intentions of changing, just doing my damn best to stop it from happening.
MPS4’s are going to be the next best, if you’re happy to take a risk on traction.
How can you stop it from happening ?P-Zero
I don’t have any intentions of changing, just doing my damn best to stop it from happening.
MPS4’s are going to be the next best, if you’re happy to take a risk on traction.
I suppose 10-12000 miles out of the fronts isn’t to bad
No idea to be honest, whatever solves the footprint issue would be suspension components redesigned and swapped out. Chances of Audi doing that? Nil? Maybe the next RS3 won’t have this problem.
That’s the thing, the mileage really isn’t THAT bad all things considered but it’s really annoying to lose a tyre with well over 3mm tread on it, we could be stretching them closer to 15k.
Agree. 10k on fronts of 400bhp car not bad. Don’t Civic Type R’s only last 6k, admittedly not 4WD. @Ron240?
Indeed.....absolutely horrendous wear rate even when driven relatively gently.
At only 2400 miles my fronts were down to 5.5mm.
Callump01
Registered User
Yep, I have the TC issues with MPS4S on my square setup. It's way more overly active compared to how the Pirellis were, but admittedly this can be solved with just a press of the TC switch. Oddly enough the TC issues seemed to happen far more frequently when the tyres were brand new (or shortly after) compared to now where they're worn down a bit.
Shortly after having the MPS4S fitted, TC would flash and cut power whenever my foot was to the floor on a straight road. It doesn't do this so much anymore though but still activates far more frequently than the Pirellis ever did. I'm not mechanically minded enough to say why, but just reporting my experience.
Nowadays I just flick the TC off which is a compromise that I am happy with given the wear rate of the Pirelli's.
Hey stalker, that's my email
Grabbed it off FB I presume? They sent me it after I had them fitted which wasn't much help. Credit where it's due though, Michellin were extremely helpful when I reported back my issues to them.Yep, not a lot of kerb protection on these. Whilst it's slightly chunkier than the Pirellis, it doesn't stick out anywhere near as much.
Last edited:
So I'm back to buying perilli then :-(
At least they seem yo have gone down in price a bit
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
At least they seem yo have gone down in price a bit
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Yep, I have the TC issues with MPS4S on my square setup. It's way more overly active compared to how the Pirellis were, but admittedly this can be solved with just a press of the TC switch. Oddly enough the TC issues seemed to happen far more frequently when the tyres were brand new (or shortly after) compared to now where they're worn down a bit.
Shortly after having the MPS4S fitted, TC would flash and cut power whenever my foot was to the floor on a straight road. It doesn't do this so much anymore though but still activates far more frequently than the Pirellis ever did. I'm not mechanically minded enough to say why, but just reporting my experience.
Nowadays I just flick the TC off which is a compromise that I am happy with given the wear rate of the Pirelli's.
Hey stalker, that's my emailGrabbed it off FB I presume? They sent me it after I had them fitted which wasn't much help. Credit where it's due though, Michellin were extremely helpful when I reported back my issues to them.
Yep, not a lot of kerb protection on these. Whilst it's slightly chunkier than the Pirellis, it doesn't stick out anywhere near as much.
Grabbed it off FB I presume? They sent me it after I had them fitted which wasn't much help. Credit where it's due though, Michellin were extremely helpful when I reported back my issues to them.It’s from a thread yes, wasn’t aware it was you tho.
It used to be an advisory on Michelin’s own site but couldn’t find it when I needed to show someone.
I know someone who runs the staggered set up and has increased tyre pressures and has found they have less issues with them.
It is interesting that the noise cancelling foam doesn't seem to go right to the edge and almost looks like it stops where we have the big issue
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
For comparison I measured a MPSS I had as a spare vs the Pirelli set up
235 MPSS Left vs 235 Pirelli right
Same MPSS vs 255 Pirelli right
235 MPSS Left vs 235 Pirelli right
Same MPSS vs 255 Pirelli right
Rayner_1704
DAN
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2015
- Messages
- 629
- Reaction score
- 341
- Points
- 63
Tried near enough every premium tyre over the years, and I find that for grip and handling and launching nothing has beaten Yokohama AD08R
- Joined
- Apr 25, 2016
- Messages
- 3,321
- Reaction score
- 3,180
- Points
- 113
Are these good in the wet, too?
In fact, what is the best all weather tyre? I get that MPSS are widely regarded to be brilliant in the dry, but we have plenty of wet days in the UK!
Whst about the vredestein ultrac
Heard a lot of people say that are great in dry and wet and cheaper than other makes
Always like the tred pattern look as well. Reminds me of the old toyos
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Heard a lot of people say that are great in dry and wet and cheaper than other makes
Always like the tred pattern look as well. Reminds me of the old toyos
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Wouldn’t the other brands have the same issue as the Michelin’s?
One of the owners over here said that a dealer had advised that the Conti sport contact 6 were compatible with RS3. but I’m not sure what to beleive now as there seem to be so many differing experiences.
I do think that the traction control system on rs3 is poorly designed (read crap) and the main contributor to the problem. The rest is just exacerbated by environmental conditions.
One of the owners over here said that a dealer had advised that the Conti sport contact 6 were compatible with RS3. but I’m not sure what to beleive now as there seem to be so many differing experiences.
I do think that the traction control system on rs3 is poorly designed (read crap) and the main contributor to the problem. The rest is just exacerbated by environmental conditions.
I think it's the RO2 bit thsts important yo say it's for Audi quottro.
The conti does say it
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Rayner_1704
DAN
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2015
- Messages
- 629
- Reaction score
- 341
- Points
- 63
Rayner_1704
DAN
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2015
- Messages
- 629
- Reaction score
- 341
- Points
- 63
I have p zero that came as standard on my pfl car I’m not overly impressed with them in the wet....on my s3 I use Goodyear eagle f1 has anyone had them on there rs? As on the s3 I have never needed more tyre even with 600bhp
I had Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy 3’s on my PFL.
Slightly noisier than the Pirelli R01’s but did seem better when pushing on.
No traction light issue either.
The FL Pirelli’s are wearing well though so I may just order them again I think.
Especially as the Michelin’s aren’t suitable.
Rayner_1704
DAN
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2015
- Messages
- 629
- Reaction score
- 341
- Points
- 63
I really rate them especially as an all round tyreI had Goodyear Eagle F1 Assy 3’s on my PFL.
Slightly noisier than the Pirelli R01’s but did seem better when pushing on.
No traction light issue either.
The FL Pirelli’s are wearing well though so I may just order them again I think.
Especially as the Michelin’s aren’t suitable.
Just swapped out all the p zeros (ao spec) on my s3 with some pilot sport 4s tyres. And no issues with any tc kicking in at all. Maybe it’s an issue with fl rs3’s as I know a few people who had the Michelin’s on the pfl rs3 and had no issues.
Another note, the ao spec Pirelli’s didn’t have any acoustic foam inside the tyres. I was led to believe all ao, ro1,ro2 had this feature.
Another note, the ao spec Pirelli’s didn’t have any acoustic foam inside the tyres. I was led to believe all ao, ro1,ro2 had this feature.
Not just an RS3 issue ?... very similar wear points in this post. Pirelli Tyres in the A3 MBQ platform.
https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/scary-tyre-wear.380612/
https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/scary-tyre-wear.380612/
Now that’s worrying, that indicates it’s the whole A3 platform.
I’ve got my granddads A3 on the drive at the moment, I’m going to have a look how the tyres sit on the tarmac before I head to Audi. I can compare it to a 5 Series and a Golf also on the drive, see if I can see a pattern or if the A3’s are well out.
No issues with the Conti’s on the 8P RS3 although I did change to the MPSS people raved on about at the time, but only because the tyres were getting low on tread.
No issues with Pirelli PFL R01’s on 255/235 set up, replaced at 10k with 4mm tread left an even wear.
No issues with Pirelli FL R02’s on 255/235 set either.
The R02’s were checked when I had the wheels off weeks back and are worn evenly.
I do run them at the full load pressures.
My winter set up going on soon which again are Pirelli Sotto’s 235 all round and as the normal tyres they are wearing even.
No issues with Pirelli PFL R01’s on 255/235 set up, replaced at 10k with 4mm tread left an even wear.
No issues with Pirelli FL R02’s on 255/235 set either.
The R02’s were checked when I had the wheels off weeks back and are worn evenly.
I do run them at the full load pressures.
My winter set up going on soon which again are Pirelli Sotto’s 235 all round and as the normal tyres they are wearing even.
Same here PFL had R01 all round and FL has R02 front and back.
Only difference is the 235 didn’t have the NCS system of a foam piece inside and the rim protection on R02 is huge by comparison.
I bought the sotto zeros on your recommendation mate for my winter wheels. Great tyre in my opinion especially when pressing on in the snow we had in February/March up the motorway. Winter tyres are game changers for this car.
Stu+mel
Registered User
This seems to be a general Audi issue, A4’s too.... we all need to go to our dealers!
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2017
- Messages
- 402
- Reaction score
- 268
- Points
- 63
Seems to just be the fronts. My fronts have started to show excessive inside edge wear at 8k miles. Swapped them front to back to even wear out and now run 44front and 39rear tyre pressure.
Pics below for reference
Front top pic, rear bottom pic
Seems to just be the fronts. My fronts have started to show excessive inside edge wear at 8k miles. Swapped them front to back to even wear out and now run 44font and 39rear tyre pressure.
Pics below for reference
Front
//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/e2b53fe27c7edd941f0da7713d1a26d5.jpg
Rear
Saloon or hatchback for the tyre pressures
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
