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Climate control update

S3AMJ Oct 24, 2018

  1. S3AMJ

    S3AMJ OEM+ Team Brilliant Black Audi S3

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    Evening All,

    So as most of us are undergoing interior updates for our cars, the RNS-E, Multifunction Steering Wheels and alike. There is one thing I’d like to change, the climate control. Now mine isn’t in bad condition at all for a soul black one. But I’ve search around all the Audi car models and this is the closest I could find to a match, size wise and connectings.

    This is the current one we find in the facelift S3 8L’s with heated seats

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    Take note of it’s size and connections, 4 block connectors with several pins and a 2 pin connector which I’ll assume is its power.

    Now below is from an Audi A6 C6

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    Looks the business, nice small chrome accents and to top this off you can replace the RNS-E dial knobs for the same style! To make it match and look like a 3G MMI RNS-E.

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    Same number of connections but obviously a different style block, some re-pinning and I think that would work.

    Any thoughts?

    Ash








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    Would be awesome if it can be made to work. Will be checking daily for updates


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  5. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow... Staff Member Moderator Audi S3

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    Not sure how the dual zoning would work... I assume that the cars its from have extra flaps and motors to be able to control temps each side... I doubt the 8L will have that although I guess it maybe possible to wire just 'half' of it and have the other half for show...

    Only other potential issue is comms... later cars being canbus and the 8L being k-line... dunno what issues might arise from that as the aircon unit takes data from sensors dotted about the car which would most likely be k-line...

    Be interesting though if it does actually work... best of british ;)

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  6. S3AMJ

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    We are determined to make the interior of our cars Frankenstein’s. A4 RNS-E, S3 8P gear knob, A5 multifunction steering wheel, S3 8V airbag, TT foot pedals and possibly A6 climate controls haha!

    I’m going to buy one after a bit more research, match up wiring diagrams and see how it measures up.

    PT you make some good points on the Canbus side of things, weather it’ll actually turn the heated seats on as well too. I don’t remember seeing anything in VCDS either for any coding or adaptions for a climate control module.


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  7. S3AMJ

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    Excuse the quality of the pictures, I’m having to use what’s available to me on the internet. But from studying the connections closely and counting the number of pins... they are a 100% like for like! The only connector that differs between the two is the S3 8L has a 2 pin power connector and the A6 C6 has a 3 pin power connector. Even the size of the connectors look the same, who knows.... could be plug and play, very much doubt it though.

    S3 8L - Red / Black
    A6 C6 - Red / Black / Yellow - Green (earth)

    [​IMG]Audi S3 8L connectors
    [​IMG]Audi A6 C6 connectors


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  8. S3AMJ

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    Hi all, I’ve gone ahead and bought an A6 C6 climate control can someone kindly give me the measurements of the S3 8L climate control please?

    Length across the top and bottom and height from the centre? I can’t get the measurements until I go to where my car is stored for another week or 2

    Muchas gracias


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    Looked at my spares...

    Double DIN unit:
    227mm wide top edge, 208mm wide bottom edge, 79mm tall

    Single DIN unit:
    231mm top edge, 225mm bottom edge, 86mm tall

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  10. S3AMJ

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    Thanks PT, ok so I’ve measure the unit and I’ve got.

    Top length - 240mm
    Bottom length - 230mm
    Height from centre - 85mm

    Obviously lots of trimming involved on the sides and the bottom just like the A4 RNS-E. For the double dinn it’s going to be very tight on the bottom two buttons for the vent direction. Some of the chrome trim at the bottom will need to be trimmed and rounded at the edges to match.

    If you have a single dinn then it’ll be less to trim and easier to fit.

    Before I start trimming I’ll wire it all in and see if it communicates properly, functions, etc.

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    Does look nice though!


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  11. hydro s3

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    You looking to of load any of them spare ones?
     
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  13. Daniel M

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    Was going to ask the same thing as they look great.
     
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  14. <tuffty/>

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    Not at this time mate soz

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  15. hydro s3

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    No prob tuffty. You know what they say "if you don't as you don't get"
     
  16. S3AMJ

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    Right.... well, this is going very slowly because I can’t even remove the existing climate control. I’ve tried everything, searched everywhere and everyone is saying, press down the top clips and pull it out?! I’m sorry but that’s just not right. This thing is not budging at all.


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  17. warren9022

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    Sounds right to me, my climate has come out using that method every time I’ve had it out. Does take a very forceful pull though.
     
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  18. S3AMJ

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    It’s the bottom mate, it’s literally not wanting to come out to the point the whole center console wants to come out while I’m pulling from the back of it.


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  19. warren9022

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    There’s 2 clips on the bottom as well but no way of getting to them hence the forceful pull to get it out, a lot of people break the bottom clips getting it out as it’s that tight!!
     
  20. S3AMJ

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    Yeah I read about them bottom 2 but everyone makes out it just pulls out haha, it most definitely doesn’t. I’ll keep trying.....


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  22. Ashy>>

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    I had to remove my head unit first then "Yank the F*@K" out of it
     
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  23. S3AMJ

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    I’ve already done that haha, getting my hands down behind it and pulling like hell.... top two clips are free! Just not letting go at the bottom, the whole dash is moving as I’m pulling


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  24. Ashy>>

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    give it some more ugga duggas
     
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  25. S3AMJ

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    Ok managed to do it, just slid a trim removal tool underneath and came out nice and easy! Right let’s see about this wiring next


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  26. S3AMJ

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    Ok I’m sorry gents but it would appear not to work, there is a humming sound coming from the heater blower, nothing turns on nor lights up. I’ll perhaps keep hold of it and maybe at a later stage when I can actually get my hands on some proper wiring diagrams for both the S3 and A6 climate control modules it’s a no show


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  27. Ashy>>

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    thats gutting as it looks a nice piece of kit too
     
  28. S3AMJ

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    Yes very disappointed, I’ll revisit this once I’ve done a few other things.... I’ll post up any of my findings


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