Bluetooth Retrofit

[aristides]

Hello fellas

Time for some questions.
I got my BT module delivered today and rushed to get it installed

First of all its a 8P0862335K model, didn`t know that when i ordered, i thought it was N. Some say that K have firmware problems, let`s hope they won`t appear in my car

First of all i installed it, coded it (i think correctly) made a call , microphone works everything ok

Thing is the contacts from my phone won`t download to the RNS-e (i believe its that the contacts are in Greek)

I also changed the wiring , thought it was a TEL NF + - problem, surprisingly it worked both ways. How could that be? I got TEL NF+ in pin 8 of the BT module and TEL NF- in 9

And one last thing
Check this photo end tell me how i should code the module, just to be sure i did everything ok.
I`m about to retrofit a MFSW tomorrow, so i would like to enable that already.




RNS-e coding : 0205755 (Got AUX also , set for MFSW too and used "Base plate diagnostic capable with Comfort Control)
Correct?

And one last edit:

Since i used the KL30 (+12V) from the RNS-e , doesn`t this mean that the supply of the voltage will be always on? What are the chances of me ending up with a flat battery?

 

[aristides]

Got some bunch of faults too, many of them intermittent , so cleared, but others keep popping up!

Wednesday,30,September,2009,13:56:18:21461
VCDS Version: Release 805.0
Data version: 20080730



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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72 77


VIN: WAUZZZ8P68A202573 Mileage: 27290km/16957miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 1010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Not registered 0011

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AG HW: 8P0 820 043 AG
Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0430
Revision: 285090 Serial number: 8P0820043AG
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

2 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:30:53

Freeze Frame:
ON

01301 - Control Module for Voice Recognition (J507)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:42:23

Freeze Frame:
ON


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K HW: 8P0 907 279 K
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2501
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000008458160
Coding: A58C0F01901410004F0000003600000000095E135C010002000000000000
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 66912

Part No: 8P1 955 119 E
Component: Wischer AU350 H02 0130
Coding: 00062736
Shop #: WSC 04030

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 L HW: 8P0 959 655 L
Component: Airbag 9.41 H01 4220
Revision: 91H01422 Serial number: 003CP003WSJ-
Coding: 0070612
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
Component: J0527 H36 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 92648

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 920 931 R HW: 8P0 920 931 R
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660
Revision: D0H22003 Serial number: 2244H003108040
Coding: 0004128
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 92648

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202
Revision: H16 Serial number: 2700K085310690
Coding: E9807F065002023102
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 66912

3 Faults Found:
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:12:02

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:12:02

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 200
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:15:14


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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 920 931 R HW: 8P0 920 931 R
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660
Revision: D0H22003 Serial number: AUX7Z0H4FNU0CO
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 L HW: 8P0 035 192 L
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H73 0660
Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7G0941168
Coding: 0205751
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 66912

2 Faults Found:
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 200
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:17:03

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:31:09


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.078 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 433 L
Component: KSG H11 0080
Coding: 1880202002187F0985054C8F0167
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 D HW: 8P4 035 382 D
Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH06 0180
Revision: 00005 Serial number: 30674802578299
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 L HW: 8P0 035 192 L
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H73 0660
Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7G0941168
Coding: 0205751
Shop #: WSC 04030 207 66912

2 Faults Found:
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 200
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:17:03

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:31:09


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Address 62: Door,Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012557

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E HW: 8P4 959 802 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000208
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012557

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 K HW: 8P0 862 335 K
Component: FSE_255x BT H26 0340
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005224342
Coding: 0011422
Shop #: WSC 06745 128 28888

5 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 22328 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.09.24
Time: 15:20:00

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 22328 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2008.09.24
Time: 15:32:32

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:44:24

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 200
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:21:29

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 27292 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.09.30
Time: 12:39:37


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The one that cant be erased is this:


00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)

 

[aristides]

Ok all solved now, MFSW is added everything works OK

Staz you can close/delete, feel free to go MAD!

 

[NHN]

lol, dear oh dear, lol

so what was the problem & admit if it was your faullt, lol

 

[aristides]

Well i actually have no idea, i guess the Power Faults appeared while i was trying to crimp the wires together, lol , thank got nothing burst into flames , lmao

Got the MFSW on today too, stupid MODE button does nothing than display my Phone Book , i thought it would do so much more!

NHN whats the deal with the TEL NF cables? Why did the module work both ways?


Got a new annoying thing now though, when the wheel is in the straight(?) position and i turn it slightly right it makes a sound like : ktack. Dunno really what`s about, have to get it checked!

 

[NHN]

Mode button is rather pathetic huh, lol

Yeah if crimping on/off then there would be some faults.

When you fitted the wheel I guess you centered it with the marks in the steering column spline & the wheel, there should be notches in each to line up & also when you did the steering wheel you did it whilst wheels staright & didnt move the slip ring at all?? I have a feeling maybe your slip ring is the noise, where does the noise come from, behind the steering wheel or from outside whilst turning?

The slip ring has to be in a certain position when removing old wheel & fitting new, if its one turn out then you can have issues & actually loose all steering wheel functions interms of mfsw & airbag given it is the loom ribbon from wheel to the steering module & this can if not in correct state rip the ribbon out of position when turning full locks

NF wires should be connected as marked/as elsa shows so pass, lol.

 

[aristides]

Well about the TEL NF , since the module works in order, i guess they are correctly connected , lol

Yeah i didnt move the Slip Ring at all, the noise is coming from behind the SW , so yeah could be the rings fault.

Had some issues when i retrofitted Cruise (actually AUDI did) and the plastic was rubbing against the wheel.
After changing the wheel with the new MF one, everything stopped rubbing, lol, but this click noise continued.

 

[NHN]

Does it click at a certain point & everytime say turning left at 9pm, nail it down to when & position then inspect it at that position, I personally believe you left the spline socket inside, lmfao, nah I reckon you havnt put the trim on properly & its catching mate, remove & check it as sounds simple enough to fix, try putting wheel on without the trims & see if does then, then you have your answer.

 

[aristides]

No no the trim is in place, if you check from the side, you can see that there is enough space between the trim and the SW.

I does it every time i turn the wheel in a specific way thats what worries me.
It did the noise even without the trim, as i had it without for quite some time now

I`ll try to make a video just to make things clear. Give me a sec!

 

[NHN]

It is either the slip ring ribbon making the noise or trim/plastic getting caught, it cant be much else mate, try removing wheel & moving the slip ring round to left/right, remembering number of turns/position was in (thats important, very)

Ribbon has loads of grease around it in slip ring to keep it loose & not noisy, sometimes it does this though but goes away after a bit of driving as I had aswell.

 

[aristides]

Ok video was a total failure, my phone picks up all sort of noises, can`t be really helpfull.

I`ll drive by the dealer to ask them to take a look at my slip ring, if its faulty ill replace it

 

[NHN]

I wouldnt do that just yet, check ur work again, then make sure you plead ignorance & get it under warranty, if its something you missed then better to sort it now or you'll get a large bill as they would spot u had that retrod to car obviously as they only have to check ur car spec list

 

[aristides]

No worries there N. all the people working at the Dealership are good friends, so i do half the job and when i need their help they do the rest

That`s why im going, so we can put everything under warranty!

Remember the Armrest lid? Warrant-ied

 

[aristides]

Guys (N. especially, lol) is there a way to turn the volume down of old grinch talking to me when i`m trying to call a number via Steering Wheel?
She`s actually pretty scary and VERY loud!

I`m not talking about Navigation or SDS commands, my only problem is the 3rd lady talking to me when i`m using the BT via the steering wheel!

 

[NHN]

& our survey says, press the button & say help, whilst she's speaking to you, turn the volume down to lower her voice, then press the button & hold to cancel then test it again see if lowered.

 

[aristides]

Some say its the phone`s fault, i tried lowering the volume while the chime was on, or while she said "The number is being dialed" and nothing happened.

Could this be related to the TEL NF + and - pins?
Still got my doubts about how i connected them


Edit: What you suggest N. isn`t actually turning down the volume of the SDS commands? This level is actually OK, my only problem is when i`m trying to make a call from the steering wheel.

When i use SDS to make a call, she talks to me calm and nicely It only happens when i use the MODE button, scroll through my contacts and press the button to make the call

Then all hell brakes loose!

 

[NHN]

Go into Sound & then select Volume Settings & there's a few options in there for Guidance & SDS

 

[aristides]

Well yeah N. those are all OK.

My problem is with the lady talking to me when i`m trying to dial via Steering Wheel + BT Chime

These get pretty loud