Audi S3 to VW Golf R - Am I a joke to you?

[Chris4410]

Have to agree with you, and yes, a real shame about the loss of 3 door on many models, but seems they weren’t very popular.

I miss the 3 door option as well, apparently less than 5% of sales of A3/S3 were 3 doors. It essentially made it financially unviable for Audi to continue building them.

I imagine it was something similar for other manufacturers with 3 door models.

 

[NevMan]

This has just been posted on R forum.

“According to coast to coast cars the starting price is £39270 on R 2.0 Tsi 320. Already offering 10% off ( £35310 )“

So starting price is higher than S3 but more chance of discount.

I am sure. Always discount more on the golfs, and no surprise the residual tends to also be lower

 

[Bigjase88]

I miss the 3 door option as well, apparently less than 5% of sales of A3/S3 were 3 doors. It essentially made it financially unviable for Audi to continue building them.

I imagine it was something similar for other manufacturers with 3 door models.

3 doors looked good on the early hatchbacks, but as with each generation the cars grew in size the 3 door started to look daft, the doors became humongous to fit the body and the 5 door sportback actually started to look the nicer car, the crossover was the 8V, the 8V sportback is a much nicer looking car than the 3 door

 

[TYb]

3 doors looked good on the early hatchbacks, but as with each generation the cars grew in size the 3 door started to look daft, the doors became humongous to fit the body and the 5 door sportback actually started to look the nicer car, the crossover was the 8V, the 8V sportback is a much nicer looking car than the 3 door

I had a 3dr 8V, I think it looked great but the doors were huge, made parking a nightmare at times, especially with how deep the doors were.

 

[Kayobong]

3 doors looked good on the early hatchbacks, but as with each generation the cars grew in size the 3 door started to look daft, the doors became humongous to fit the body and the 5 door sportback actually started to look the nicer car, the crossover was the 8V, the 8V sportback is a much nicer looking car than the 3 door

I preferred the 3dr 8V to be honest


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[RGBARGEE]

Its a hatchback and all of them are bland looking too my eyes ....Golf 8 interior has far more high gloss plastic than the A3 has .....golf's normally are more expensive on a pcp due to having lower residuals than a A3

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Absolutely right mate. VW residuals are still a little suspect for some reason. Why are VW Audi screwing up their dashboard design?

Audi have definitely lost the plot these days so maybe a VW will become more exclusive if that’s what folks want?

 

[Snake Pliskin]

I am sure. Always discount more on the golfs, and no surprise the residual tends to also be lower

Also ... if you get the right deal on a heavily discounted purchase price, you can afford to take a proportionate hit on the residual.

 

[Chris4410]

Absolutely right mate. VW residuals are still a little suspect for some reason. Why are VW Audi screwing up their dashboard design?

Audi have definitely lost the plot these days so maybe a VW will become more exclusive if that’s what folks want?

Not always, my TCR is over £100 per month cheaper on PCP compared to what my S3 PCP was.

Probably quite a lot to do with the apr rate being 3 times lower than Audi's, and that I was able to obtain a significant discount

 

[NevMan]

Also ... if you get the right deal on a heavily discounted purchase price, you can afford to take a proportionate hit on the residual.

That is very true

 

[Snake Pliskin]

Not always, my TCR is over £100 per month cheaper on PCP compared to what my S3 PCP was.

Probably quite a lot to do with the apr rate being 3 times lower than Audi's, and that I was able to obtain a significant discount

The TCR is also a low build / rare / desirable car and should hold its value well.

You enjoying the TCR then mate - I really rate the Golf GTI and in TCR form it does look a great car / package

 

[Kayobong]

The TCR is also a low build / rare / desirable car and should hold its value well.

You enjoying the TCR then mate - I really rate the Golf GTI and in TCR form it does look a great car / package

Have to agree the TCR is a stunner, I do have a soft spot for Golf GTI's. I'd love a Clubsport or a TCR one day.

 

[Chris4410]

The TCR is also a low build / rare / desirable car and should hold its value well.

You enjoying the TCR then mate - I really rate the Golf GTI and in TCR form it does look a great car / package

I am indeed mate, very pleased with the balance of usability, performance and fun. Plus it has all the technology I like, for what it cost its a very good package. Spec for spec it cost me about 10k less than my S3 did, sure it was 4 wheel drive and had some better internal plastic here and there, but it wasn't 10k of a difference.

If fact the only thing that was truly better in the S3 was the sound system, its really hard to beat the B&O.

 

[Darlo]

Golf R and clubsport now on VW Configurator.... confirming is fooking expensive and jumps into £40k+ bracket extremely quickly

 

[K96]

I just specced up a new Golf R on the configuration and loaded it with all the options I would like. Came up to £53k (without any discount) pricey.

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[TYb]

I just specced up a new Golf R on the configuration and loaded it with all the options I would like. Came up to £53k (without any discount) pricey.

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Flipping heck, that’s bonkers money

 

[Chris4410]

At that price, makes you wonder what the starting price of the RS3 will be.

 

[T-1000]

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[Sparks43]

Flipping heck, that’s bonkers money

That's madness - I'm so surprised that the Golf has 10 horsepower more than the S3 and is more expensive - I'm surprised Audi (VAG) let that happen

I know it's popular but £50K for a Golf!!

 

[Darlo]

The golf was popular in the MK7 guise, but didn’t have much in way of competitors.

Now there a quite a few 300ish bhp 4wd hot hatches.

DTD the deal are already giving 11% discount I think but still too expensive for a Golf.

 

[Kayobong]

That's madness - I'm so surprised that the Golf has 10 horsepower more than the S3 and is more expensive - I'm surprised Audi (VAG) let that happen

I know it's popular but £50K for a Golf!!

Just had a go myself, it's crazy. £49k with only 4 options selected.

 

[NevMan]

At that price, makes you wonder what the starting price of the RS3 will be.

I reckon RS3 will hit £60k without too
Much effort

 

[wizzywig27]

Configurator doesn't work for me

 

[T-1000]

I reckon RS3 will hit £60k without too
Much effort

Scary.


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[RGBARGEE]

I reckon RS3 will hit £60k without too
Much effort

And we all know why that is !

 

[pburv]

Seems that ^^^ '' And we all know why that is! '' ^^^ is NOT the main reason prices are going up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automak...ise-significantly-comply-co2-emissions-limits
@RGBARGEE We have left the EU...Get over it.

 

[RGBARGEE]

Seems that ^^^ '' And we all know why that is! '' ^^^ is NOT the main reason prices are going up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automak...ise-significantly-comply-co2-emissions-limits
@RGBARGEE We have left the EU...Get over it.

Never. Lies and cheating never succeeds for long. €1.40 2015 €1.10 2020.. there are clearly other factor but dealing in fact an over 25% devaluation of the £U.K. exchange rates is pretty much £40k to £50k. Sadly a further 10% is on the cards and importers are anticipating this in their pricing. Note Audi price promise for now. Audi TTS 2015 £40k 2020 £ c£50k sad times for German car lovers.

 

[pburv]

Never. Lies and cheating never succeeds for long. €1.40 2015 €1.10 2020.. there are clearly other factor but dealing in fact an over 25% devaluation of the £U.K. exchange rates is pretty much £40k to £50k. Sadly a further 10% is on the cards and importers are anticipating this in their pricing. Note Audi price promise for now. Audi TTS 2015 £40k 2020 £ c£50k sad times for German car lovers.

Saying '' a further 10%' is on the cards '' is not fact until it or if it happens.

 

[Chris4410]

If that's the future pricing, sales will fall dramatically.

A very small percentage of the UK will have £50k to spend on a car, even the lesser models will suffer as again a lot of folks will not be paying +£30k for an A3

 

[RGBARGEE]

 

[pburv]

Just marketing taking advantage of the situation. Still not fact till it happens.

 

[Chris.D]

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I can’t tell if you’ve quoted this source as tongue in cheek or you’re being serious?..

 

[RGBARGEE]

Just marketing taking advantage of the situation. Still not fact till it happens.

The Increase in prices 2015 to 2020 is FACT..

 

[pburv]

As is increases with everything the World over.
Not saying anything more on the matter.

 

[NevMan]

Seems that ^^^ '' And we all know why that is! '' ^^^ is NOT the main reason prices are going up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automak...ise-significantly-comply-co2-emissions-limits
@RGBARGEE We have left the EU...Get over it.

Hear hear mate

 

[NevMan]

Why don’t these political spouts/rants/moans get banned? Tiresome tbh

 

[txosbi]

RGBARGEE, give it a rest on brexit. You are so boring with your rants.

 

[RGBARGEE]

RGBARGEE, give it a rest on brexit. You are so boring with your rants.

I think you will find I didn’t start it this evening. I didn’t even mention the B word!! Economists and politicians are directly linked. Arguably Brexit crosses all political views! burying heads in the sand is no way forward and there is genuine concern about car prices. I for one want to continue to enjoy EU cars without the price hikes.

 

[pburv]

Hear hear mate

I tend to stay out of things when it looks like it would start trouble on the forum but listening to the 'guff' he comes out with constantly on the same subject really winds me up. I'm sorry now I responded.. He's like a stuck record.

 

[pburv]

Why don’t these political spouts/rants/moans get banned? Tiresome tbh

I apologize mate for starting that small rant by him. I assure you I won't do that again. lol

 

[RGBARGEE]

I tend to stay out of things when it looks like it would start trouble on the forum but listening to the 'guff' he comes out with constantly on the same subject really winds me up. I'm sorry now I responded.. He's like a stuck record.

Is that an apology?