Sportback Audi RS3 FL 500HP+ project

Kristijan Sabljar

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Final part arrived
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Kristijan Sabljar

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Finally manage to install WAGNER Competiton EVO 3 IC . It fits perfectly. Worse things is to remove bumper(find all screws). Removing stock ic, crash bar and temperature sensor. Than just screw Wagner and return bumper. Also stock bumper is modified and remove plastic behind licence plate .

STOCK

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WAGNER EVO 3 VS STOCK IC

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WAGNER inside

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I did vbox , IAT and Insoric

It was 17 celzius 98 mode

On stg1 i was getting 475-480Hp/580Nm and 7.9 100-200kmh

On stg1+ with just REVO intake i have meassured 485-488Hp/590nm so arround 10hp gain with just bolt on not tuned for it

On stg1+ with Revo intake and WAGENR we measured crazy 498Hp/608Nm!!!!!! 10-15hp gain with just IC bolt on

So without tuning fitting IC and Intake on my car i got 20-25Hp/30Nm!!!!!! and 7.5 sec 100-200kmh versus 7.9 on stg 1

ON STOCK IC on 17 celzius ambient, during pull 80-250kmh IAT goes from 38 celzius - 50 celzius

WAGNER EVO 3 on 17 celzius ambient, during pull 80-250kmh IAT goes from 24 celzius - 32 celzius !!!!!!!!!!

Car feels alive, consistent and IC works perfectly.

HERE are graphs

Revo 1+ , dp, intake VS Revo 1+ dp, intake , WAGNER

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HERE is graph stg1 VS ALL parts i have now



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Numbers from last night

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Next stop DSG map and proper STG2 :D

Stay tuned
 

betaone68

Registered User
The original intercooler has always been the weak point of the RS3. It is already in crisis with an original map.
With Stage 2 will it be necessary to remap DSG? Are more than 650 Nm of torque reached?
 

Toshers

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Is it just me thinking that either APR or Revo don't want to be the first to release the stage 2 map and publish their figures? :whistle2:

How long does development from stg1 to stg2 really take?
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Is it just me thinking that either APR or Revo don't want to be the first to release the stage 2 map and publish their figures? :whistle2:

How long does development from stg1 to stg2 really take?

Dont know , depends how good software u want. Revo took 1 year for stg1 and now we have fastest stg1 cars

Never seen stg1 doing 7.3 100-200kmh
Without IC and intake best was 7.6 again one of fastest on stg1
 

betaone68

Registered User
I am waiting for the arrival of the carbon intake kit.
I downloaded assembly instructions.
point 13 says :
"Fit the Revo carbon intake pipe and position so that the silicones at either end fit tightly against both the airbox and turbo inlet. Once you are happy with the positioning, tighten all (4) hose clamps to 3Nm "
ONLY 3Nm ?
Is it actually like this? I will have to buy a bicycle torque wrench.
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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I am waiting for the arrival of the carbon intake kit.
I downloaded assembly instructions.
point 13 says :
"Fit the Revo carbon intake pipe and position so that the silicones at either end fit tightly against both the airbox and turbo inlet. Once you are happy with the positioning, tighten all (4) hose clamps to 3Nm "
ONLY 3Nm ?
Is it actually like this? I will have to buy a bicycle torque wrench.
I did by feeling didnt measure 3nm
 

Callum66

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Sounds like the carbon tube is very fragile if the recommended torque setting is 3Nm.
 
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Hal Adams

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I am waiting for the arrival of the carbon intake kit.
tighten all (4) hose clamps to 3Nm "
ONLY 3Nm ?
Is it actually like this? I will have to buy a bicycle torque wrench.
For heavens sake! 3Nm is engineering for finger tight. Nothing to with fragility of the CF tube - silicone rubber forms a natural seal against CF. The clips are in reality there for surety. Unlikely you will be able to twist more than 3Nm from a hand screwdriver.
By stipulating the figure, Revo are countering these numbskulls who tighten hose clamps so much that the rubber is cut.
 

illingworth22

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Great thread from start to finish.... oh except a bit of whinging in the middle. I sent you a PM regarding the Stage 1 map for folks who have only got access to 95 RON petrol.
 

D0C

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Hi Kristijan, is Revo stage 2 still not available and are you currently running the beta file? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

They told me originally that it would be September but 2019 is rapidly approaching!
 

Slowracer

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I notice on dyno charts of tuned cars, Revo and others, that power and torque is slightly down on stock until about 2500 rpm ( I guess when the turbo starts wind up). Is that noticeable under normal driving conditions, does it feel a little lazier of the line.?
 

D0C

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I notice on dyno charts of tuned cars, Revo and others, that power and torque is slightly down on stock until about 2500 rpm ( I guess when the turbo starts wind up). Is that noticeable under normal driving conditions, does it feel a little lazier of the line.?
I have Revo. I think the standard car is a bit laggy low down and it's similar with the tune. But obviously when the boost does come in, it is quite a bit harder.
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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I notice on dyno charts of tuned cars, Revo and others, that power and torque is slightly down on stock until about 2500 rpm ( I guess when the turbo starts wind up). Is that noticeable under normal driving conditions, does it feel a little lazier of the line.?

I have Revo. I think the standard car is a bit laggy low down and it's similar with the tune. But obviously when the boost does come in, it is quite a bit harder.

Yes car has stock big turbo (odnt forget 510-550Hp potential it has to be big) thats why laggy until 4000 but after revs like crazy especially tuned :D

Stage 2 should be ready in month or two , allready in few cars ;)
 

Slowracer

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Yes car has stock big turbo (odnt forget 510-550Hp potential it has to be big) thats why laggy until 4000 but after revs like crazy especially tuned :D

Stage 2 should be ready in month or two , allready in few cars ;)

If you think this car is laggy stock you should try an amg a45 :)

My question was more to do with difference in power and torque below 4K. Many of the dyno graphs I’ve seen for tuned cars show tuned torque/power curves slightly down on stock up to 2.5-3k. I notice the same in my a45. On the road you’d notice that it wasn’t quite as sharp just in that initial jump of the lights.

Some have suggested that getting a pedal box will sharpen it up of the mark but I’m not a fan of pedal boxes.

I’m planning to get a Revo tune after my first service in Feb so just doing my research in the meantime.
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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If you think this car is laggy stock you should try an amg a45 :)

My question was more to do with difference in power and torque below 4K. Many of the dyno graphs I’ve seen for tuned cars show tuned torque/power curves slightly down on stock up to 2.5-3k. I notice the same in my a45. On the road you’d notice that it wasn’t quite as sharp just in that initial jump of the lights.

Some have suggested that getting a pedal box will sharpen it up of the mark but I’m not a fan of pedal boxes.

I’m planning to get a Revo tune after my first service in Feb so just doing my research in the meantime.

It's not like that I had hybrid on my mk7 R RS3 is much better just u feel it's big turbo and needs revs
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Cold air, 8 celzius Got me Fastest stg1 CaR on 100 fuel. I have Wagner Intercooler, dp , IE intake

100-200 Kmh (62-125mph) 7.1sec
7.2 consistet
502hp/630nm

Soon stage 2 update and 6.xxx
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Kristijan Sabljar

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Something new :D

Stock discs cracked after 10000 mile so i went for upgrade

380mm Revo (Alcon) brakes. Looks amazing , i really love color and its weight saving.

Stock Discs 13,2KG
Stock caliper 6,4 KG
Revo 380mm 10.4 KG
Revo caliper 3.34 KG

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Piece of sh....

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Ultra happy , braking is superb .
Now i will paint rear ones i put Castrol SRF braking oil

Also instaled IE carbon intake(got super cheap price for demo tests)
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Thanks to FRESH mods UK for fast delivery and awesome feedback for black badges

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Final numbers on 7 celzius

0-60mph 3.0 sec
0-100mph 6.6 sec
62-125mph 7.1 sec
60-130Mph 8,3 sec
1/4 10.9 sec with 1.86 60 FT need better tires now when its cold :D



Now only i wait Revo stage 2 and we go deeeep
 
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