Sportback Audi RS3 FL 500HP+ project

Kristijan Sabljar

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Hi guys,
I come from Golf 7 R with Revo stage 3 kit and 480hp/550Nm

My name is Kristijan and i got my car 2 days ago

It is Nardo gray with:
- Matrix
-B&O
-S seats red stich
-Autofold mirrors
-Audi Sport exhaust
-Black optic pack and mirrors
-Virtual cockpit

I am main Revo distributer for Croatia so car will be full development packcage :)

Plan is :
Stage 1 and take all measurements
Stage 2 ( Revo carbon intake, Downpipe)
 
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FBF01

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Are you over on the VWROC forum too? Sure I’ve seen all your stuff on there. Lapiz three door was it not? Be following this thread for sure, that build was cracking
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Are you over on the VWROC forum too? Sure I’ve seen all your stuff on there. Lapiz three door was it not? Be following this thread for sure, that build was cracking

Yes i am :) Golf was top and fast but RS3 is upgraded version of 7 R , its better in curves ( i was also shocked)
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Any 60-100mph numbers ?


So a stock rs3 is as quick as a stage 2 s3/golf r. Can’t imagine how quick it’d be once tuned.

500bhp should do 60-100mph in about 4 secs then ?

Mine Golf 7 R with 480hp had 4 sec 60-100mph so RS3 good stage 2 shold be 3.8xx or something :D
 

random101

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500hp should be a breeze!

It's a highly capable car! Best bet is to get a FMIC, HPFP. Downpipes are good stock ones aren't overly restrictive.

From all my research the GTX Gen 2 turbo's leave all the TTE, Iroz turbos for dead.
That's the way I'll be heading :)
 

Leo-RS

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500hp should be a breeze!

It's a highly capable car! Best bet is to get a FMIC, HPFP. Downpipes are good stock ones aren't overly restrictive.

From all my research the GTX Gen 2 turbo's leave all the TTE, Iroz turbos for dead.
That's the way I'll be heading :)

No need for HPFP on the facelift cars.
 

A.ShawnS3

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Ed_rx7

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So your trying to say stock the car has 445hp at the Fly/Engine? So 50 hp more than stock figures?
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Something new

Bilstein B16 arrived and i flashed Revo stage 1 BETA file

Its crazy fast

More numbers and videos soon

Also we took Worthersee trip along with our friends TTRS from WERK 2 and TK engineerin RS3 also REVO beta
It was good climbing on ALPS

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D0C

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Something new

Bilstein B16 arrived and i flashed Revo stage 1 BETA file

Its crazy fast

More numbers and videos soon

Also we took Worthersee trip along with our friends TTRS from WERK 2 and TK engineerin RS3 also REVO beta
It was good climbing on ALPS

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Looking forward to seeing your Vbox times with the Revo flash.
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Audi RS3 Revo stage 1 beta nearly done.
0-100kmh 3.38 sec
0-60mph 3.2 sec
0-100mph 7.2 sec
100-200kmh 7.8 sec
1/4mile 11.08 sec

All times are corrected. Stock weight 1/2 fuel 98 19" rims
19 celzius

These days will do power measurment and drag event is in saturday so waiting result :)
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Kristijan Sabljar

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Kristijan, buy your self a Dragy so we can compare exact times please.
That would be good.
This is exact time, dragy is not good becouse u can do downhill and dragy will showe time which is invalid without correcrion which u only can do on racelogic. So draggy is just show off tool , only if u use on straight road , but seen lots of posts slope -0.6-0.80 etc that is way off accurate. My car is doing 7.3 on vbox slope -0.85 which is with correction 7.89 . Huge difference so yes all guys need to buy vbox and do correction to be accurate :D
 

Leo-RS

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This is exact time, dragy is not good becouse u can do downhill and dragy will showe time which is invalid without correcrion which u only can do on racelogic. So draggy is just show off tool , only if u use on straight road , but seen lots of posts slope -0.6-0.80 etc that is way off accurate. My car is doing 7.3 on vbox slope -0.85 which is with correction 7.89 . Huge difference so yes all guys need to buy vbox and do correction to be accurate :D

Racelogic do not endorse a correction tool though?

In addition, the whole concept of running on a 0% gradient is absolutely ridiculous as there are zero roads on planet earth that will have a perfect 0 gradient on them (What would happen with rain water?)

The 1% slope limitation of the Dragy is a very narrow window and infact does not make anywhere near the difference that you state it will, a 1% downwards gradient is tiny. Even on what looks to be a straight bit of tarmac, you can fall foul of a negative 1% gradient, it's certainly not clear to the naked eye.

I remember doing a test a while back of a launch down a 7% gradient on the 0-100mph and the time changed by 3/10 from what it was on the flat. 7% is huge, it's a very noticeable downward slope. 1% limitation is not noticeable in the slightest.

Dragy have done well to adopt the 1% limitation as it either passes or it fails, too many people were launching downhills, taking a picture of their pbox display and passing it off as accurate. In addition to cheating by selecting 1 foot rollout to skew the figures along with launching down hills, the figures some people were posting were comical.

You've posted a picture of your pbox display but haven't posted anything else to back it up, like start height and end height etc? When posting a picture of my pbox display, I would always plot my chart in vbox tools with the height charts selected (1) Proves 1ft rollout selection (2) Plotted with height start and finish. (3) Make the calculation for gradient yourself.

What you get from Dragy is everyone working within the same very tight boundaries, unlike the pbox where people just take pictures of their displays and no other info about gradient and 1ft is provided.

I have both the Vbox (Pbox) and the Dragy. This verification tool you talk of (vbox verify? DB scanner?) is not racelogic endorsed or backed, who is to say that this tool itself is accurate?

Sorry but what Dragy have done is very welcome to the car tuning community, they've bettered the vbox(pbox) in every segment and brought it into the 21st century. The Pbox unit itself, its functions, its displays etc belong in the 00's. Dragy = welcome to 2018.
 

Kristijan Sabljar

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Racelogic do not endorse a correction tool though?

In addition, the whole concept of running on a 0% gradient is absolutely ridiculous as there are zero roads on planet earth that will have a perfect 0 gradient on them (What would happen with rain water?)

The 1% slope limitation of the Dragy is a very narrow window and infact does not make anywhere near the difference that you state it will, a 1% downwards gradient is tiny. Even on what looks to be a straight bit of tarmac, you can fall foul of a negative 1% gradient, it's certainly not clear to the naked eye.

I remember doing a test a while back of a launch down a 7% gradient on the 0-100mph and the time changed by 3/10 from what it was on the flat. 7% is huge, it's a very noticeable downward slope. 1% limitation is not noticeable in the slightest.

Dragy have done well to adopt the 1% limitation as it either passes or it fails, too many people were launching downhills, taking a picture of their pbox display and passing it off as accurate. In addition to cheating by selecting 1 foot rollout to skew the figures.

You've posted a picture of your pbox display but haven't posted anything else to back it up, like start height and end height etc? I would always plot my chart in vbox tools (1) Proves 1ft rollout selection (2) Plotted with height start and finish. (3) Make the calculation for gradient.

What you get from Dragy is everyone working within the same very tight boundaries, unlike the pbox where people just take pictures of their displays.

I have both the Vbox (Pbox) and the Dragy. This verification tool you talk of (vbox verify? DB scanner?) is not racelogic endorsed or backed, who is to say that this tool itself is accurate?
I have db scaner and yes all times corrected . Will post tomorrow . Dragy on slope is not accurate 0.8 slope is 0.3 diff on my car . 7.8 and 7.5 not same. Dont play on card draggy better than vbox with dnbscanner becouse its just taking nonsense where u have satelite and road configuration
 

Leo-RS

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I have db scaner and yes all times corrected . Will post tomorrow . Dragy on slope is not accurate 0.8 slope is 0.3 diff on my car . 7.8 and 7.5 not same. Dont play on card draggy better than vbox with dnbscanner becouse its just taking nonsense where u have satelite and road configuration

But I have both units and have thoroughly tested this, you clearly have not. Show me where DB scanner is endorsed by Racelogic, it's a programme with no substance, the same with vbox verify. Where have they come from?

And absolute nonsense about gradients under 1%. I can show you a graph on Dragy that I took this morning on 1 section of road with a 0.4% negative slope and then doing the identical run in the opposite direction so it showed a 0.4% positive gradient and the run with the positive gradient was 1/100 of a second quicker. The difference in the times nothing to do with gradient, most probably to do with slightly better grip, less ignition pull, better airflow etc.
 
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H4RDYRS3

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Did you get a screen shot of the 1/4 mile time mate ?, also what was terminal speed and 60ft time ?
I like dragy because in the screen shots you can see everything including up or down hill slope.
 

Leo-RS

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And as someone that's full of information surely you should know better than to post a picture of your pbox display? This should be backed up by providing the Racelogic endorsed (Performance tools) graphs to display start and end height.

You yourself are preaching about accuracy but yet you are positing pictures of only pbox screen that can clearly be heavily manipulated?

Sure, running on a downward slope should always give you a quicker figure than running on an uphill but at 1%, the differences really are negligible. In addition, when comparing within dragy you can see if someone is running at -0.99% gradient and "qualifying" and you can see if someone is running up a 2% gradient. Infact, if both posters post identical times, it then comes down to a gradient comparison which then decides what car is placed in front of the other.

If you want a truly accurate unit then Racelogic need to up their game and carry out a 0% correction live on the unit. DB scanner and Vbox verify are 3rd party applications and their substance and accuracy are completely unknown.

We are saying uphill and downhill but I challenge anyone if they can positively identify a 1% incline or a 1% decline in height. For all intents and purposes the roads look flat between -1 and 0 and 0 +1 gradients.
 
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Leo-RS

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Here is an example where a positive “uphill” gradient is quicker than the same stretch “downhill”

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Here’s another one of it working the other way where the “downhill” is quicker

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So in the case above we have went from 0.45% uphill to 0.55% downhill, a change of a whole 1% between the 2 runs and yet the difference is 3/100 of a second. That is over 201m (1/8 of a mile)

Figures from a stock car.

As I said, 1% gradient limitation from Dragy is minuscule. Evidence as above. Those charts above are far more meaningful than a picture of a vbox display.

Listen, I'm a vbox (pbox) fan, it's been the industry standard for the last 2 decades but times have moved on. I do have both units. You shouldn't dismiss the Dragy because you don't understand it or your opinion is based on hearsay or the fact because its cheaper it cant be as good. You should only dismiss the Dragy if you have both units and test them side by side and find the Dragy is inaccurate, then I would say fair enough. That wont happen though as the Dragy is just as accurate as the vbox, independently tested. It's the online element,the leaderboard, the functionality, and most importantly its cost that make the Dragy a great buy.

The only issue is that nothing is fool proof. You could potentially mount the Dragy to a Yamaha R1 and pretend its inside your Ford Focus ST and post incredible figures in the leaderboard and cheat it so to speak but the same could be said for any vbox chart too. There's always an element of scepticism put into figures you see posted online. Only sure way is to post a good old fashioned drag strip time slip and backing video (or proof that it was your own car that run it)

I apologise, this is your thread and I shouldn't have jumped on it but thought I should post with my opinion on the Dragy having used both extensively.

Thread back to you and I look forward to your updates.
 
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