Audi rs3 8v v box times

S3_Sanni

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I know this question may have been answered before.. Been reading around, some say pfl stock rs3 has done 0-60 3.6 secs, some say stage 1 is doing it in 3.5 secs.

Does anyone have any tests of 0-60 with or without v box times?

Would be interesting to know...

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D0C

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I know Revo clocked 3.7s standard and 3.5s with stage 1. It was 60-100mph where it really told.
 

S3_Sanni

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I know Revo clocked 3.7s standard and 3.5s with stage 1. It was 60-100mph where it really told.
I think last i checked.. 100-200kph was like 8.5 sec that's impressive!

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terminator x

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I do have a clip but on WhatsApp and can't work out how to download it. Taken by someone else.

TX.

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S3_Sanni

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I do have a clip but on WhatsApp and can't work out how to download it. Taken by someone else.

TX.

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Usually all whatsapp media saves into your gallery..
Do you have a 60-120 time?

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terminator x

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It was only an eighth mile not a quarter, got to 95 ish though over 200m. Didn't quite get to 100mph.

TX.

Edit - 7.899s at 200m.

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S3_Sanni

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It was only an eighth mile not a quarter, got to 95 ish though over 200m. Didn't quite get to 100mph.

TX.

Edit - 7.899s at 200m.

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I Should have been abit more clear lol i meant in general do you have a time of 60-120mph.. My many videos on YouTube

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As a matter of interest, what was the little truck beside you?
I have an ongoing project in getting 300bhp out of a little Skoda pick up, but I think the truck beside you was larger. Interested to know if you can remember...
 

Leo-RS

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You would really need a vbox time to verify the 0-60 time. At events such as GTI international etc, they can't reliably record 0-60's. Still though, Doc posted something last week where they tested a PFL at 3.6 0-60 in the press so that's the evidence you need there.

Not sure what the PFL's do tuned, 3.2-3.3 perhaps?

Facelift probably will be around the same 3.6, maybe 3.5. Down in these nether regions, every tenth is hard to shave off as you are battling physics. Too much power off launch will just slip and wheelspin the tyres but I'd imagine 3.0-3.2 will be achievable. 2.9 will probably need warm sticky tarmac and light and sticky wheels.

I'll get the vbox in mine soon for facelift figures.
 

terminator x

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It was all properly timed Leo, there were 100's of cars running all day long. Speed trap at the end etc.

TX.

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D0C

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I know @Shaunee has been modifying his PFL with some great results, but even he was struggling for traction at the drag strips. Even so, I seem to recall his stage 2 doing 3.3s despite the traction issues. Big difference beyond 60mph, however.
 

Shaunee

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There's so much **** out on the net you REALLY need to be careful what you judge/use as data.

VBOX is amazingly accurate but data MUST BE corrected for slope (unless the road is extremely flat) for accuracy.

At 450bhp my Stage 2 RS3 8V could repeatedly achieve a VBOX corrected time of 3.2s 0-60mph (that's with 1ft rollout on).
 

D0C

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There's so much **** out on the net you REALLY need to be careful what you judge/use as data.

VBOX is amazingly accurate but data MUST BE corrected for slope (unless the road is extremely flat) for accuracy.

At 450bhp my Stage 2 RS3 8V could repeatedly achieve a VBOX corrected time of 3.2s 0-60mph (that's with 1ft rollout on).
Have you still got your car and is/was it reliable with the mods?
 

Shaunee

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I think last i checked.. 100-200kph was like 8.5 sec that's impressive!

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Yeah... off a cliff maybe!!! :haha:

I have a few log files from Stage 1 REVO tunes and they are no where near that time. More like a corrected time of 9.8s.

My car achieved 8.9s 100-200kmh (at the drag strip). I'm not aware anyone has beaten that..... and for the state of tune, fuel, full weight etc that I had when at Stage 2, no one has beaten my quarter times down Santa Pod either (11.55s). The ******** stops when the flag drops.
 

Leo-RS

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There's so much **** out on the net you REALLY need to be careful what you judge/use as data.

VBOX is amazingly accurate but data MUST BE corrected for slope (unless the road is extremely flat) for accuracy.

At 450bhp my Stage 2 RS3 8V could repeatedly achieve a VBOX corrected time of 3.2s 0-60mph (that's with 1ft rollout on).

Shakes head in disbelief considering your opening rant. You were doing well up until the last few words in brackets.

You cannot reliably measure 0-60 with 1 foot rollout switched on. It's an impossibility. It should NOT be used for 0-xxx any measurements. It's function is solely to mimic the use on a dragstrip.
 

Shaunee

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Shakes head in disbelief considering your opening rant. You were doing well up until the last few words in brackets.

You cannot reliably measure 0-60 with 1 foot rollout switched on. It's an impossibility. It should NOT be used for 0-xxx any measurements. It's function is solely to mimic the use on a dragstrip.

Perhaps you should tell every car magazine that and nearly every other tester out there that use the 1ft rollout feature.

1ft rollout IS accurate...... if it wasn't then my drag slips and vbox runs wouldn't match (as they do).

Care to explain to me technically why 1ft rollout on these VBOX's isn't accurate for anything other than drag times.

I ALWAYS state whether my times are with 1ft rollout or not, so it's not that I ever hide anything.
 

Leo-RS

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Perhaps you should tell every car magazine that and nearly every other tester out there that use the 1ft rollout feature.

1ft rollout IS accurate...... if it wasn't then my drag slips and vbox runs wouldn't match (as they do).

Care to explain to me technically why 1ft rollout on these VBOX's isn't accurate for anything other than drag times.

I ALWAYS state whether my times are with 1ft rollout or not, so it's not that I ever hide anything.

Nonsense, no one uses 1ft rollout. Who has ever told you it's acceptable? We have had this discussion before Shaun and it's clearly went in one ear and straight out the other. I've been using vbox and visiting the dragstrips for over 10yrs now, very well known in the VAG community and have tested this extensively.

Racelogic themselves state that it affects times by upto 0.3secs

https://racelogic.support/02VBOX_Motorsport/01General_Information/Knowledge_Base/One_Foot_Rollout

No one uses it apart from 1 US based car magazine called Car & Driver. They routinely post up quicker 0-60's than every other tester but they do say that they activate 1ft rollout.

The reason that it is not accurate for 0-60's is because it doesn't start the capture until 1ft has elapsed. On a dragstrip, you line up at the Christmas tree 1ft before the timing beams detect your wheels and the timer starts. It's an actual impossibility to have both an accurate 0-402m time and an accurate 0-60mph time, it's either 1 or the other dependent on whether you have 1ft selected or not.

If you have 1ft enabled for a 0-60/100 etc, you are not measuring from 0mph, you are measuring from 4-5mph as by the time you move 12 inches, you're already doing 4-5mph. The 1ft rollout enables this.

Who has ever told you that 1ft is acceptable for 0-60 use? Simon? it's bollo*ks, I've been in the VAG race scene for over a decade now and also involved in the GTR scene too and no one uses 1ft rollout for anything other than use on the dragstrip.

Your lack of knowledge is evident by your quoted words here...

1ft rollout IS accurate...... if it wasn't then my drag slips and vbox runs wouldn't match (as they do).

Yes, exactly, that's what it's supposed to do. It's accurate for drag strip use where you get a 'free' 1 foot. In a 0-60 test, you do not get a free anything other than cheating by 0.2-0.3secs.

Your vbox chart display clearly shows this when you plot in vbox tools too and even the corrected software will show that the clock doesn't start at 0mph. With regards to the vbox correct correction, yes, it is very useful as it corrects for slope, however, as far as I know this is not a racelogic endorsed product. In terms of vbox tools, you can plot heights in order to rule out gradient changes but yes, I do find the vbox correct tool useful.

Sometimes its best just to sit back and listen to others sometimes Shaun. I remember having this discussion with you on another forum, you're the guy that's taken his Audi RS to a Nissan GTR specialist instead of an Audi RS one.

If you want to come back at me with why you believe it's accurate, I want to see facts and evidence of this rather than the "well some mags use it" And no, no manufacturer uses a cheap £250 device to time their cars with and they certainly do not use 1ft rollout, otherwise known as dragstrip mode.

There's a big thread over on GTR forums about the use of 1ft rollout in their leader boards threads and it IS NOT ALLOWED.

Switch it off for 0-60's, switch it back on for dragstrip indications. I don't mean to sound rude but we have done this all before.
 

Shaunee

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Leo,
I know what 1ft roll-out means and does. You're not the only one who has been doing this for over 10 years. I know it doesn't count the first foot. I never dispute that. I also ALWAYS state that I have 1ft roll-out on where applicable. I'm not hiding anything.

I thought you were referring to the 1ft calculation not being accurate itself, hence my previous reply about that.

All this over me enabling 1ft rollout!?!?

You could have just said "Could you provide your 0-60mph without 1ft roll-out on instead?" and I would have obliged no problem.
 

Leo-RS

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Fair enough if you always state 1ft on or off then you are being transparent but not everyone knows what it means and a lot of people on the net hide behind it and ‘cheat’. No issues with transparency though.

I just picked up my new car yesterday and will do an off/on 1ft test just to show the difference it makes. Always 0.2-0.3 quicker with it selected. I suspect 3.6 vs 3.4 but we will see.

With the 1ft off and your hybrid/BT performance and perfect weather conditions your car I would think would do 60 in 3. Use 1ft and you’ll see a display in the 2’s. Pretty much impossible to get that level on grip this time of year though.
 

D0C

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Joking and debating aside, I've found the above posts really quite useful. I'm very uneducated with going to drag strips and timing cars so it's quite an eye opener.

So just to clarify, @Shaunee is your 3.2s to 60mph times without 1ft rollout?
 

S3_Sanni

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Some people need to do 60-120 tests too that's more interesting to know..

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Aoon_M

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LOL
 

Aoon_M

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I think I have a sub 3 0-60 plot somewhere with rollout off
 

Aoon_M

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I’ve never bothered vboxing the car at 670hp as it’s quite extra for the road at that power level, but with 600hp and 20” wheels it will comfortably do consistent sub 3’s to 60
 

Aoon_M

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Also to be noted the OZ Dakar’s I run are 1.3kg heavier per corner over stock, I’ve never ran times on 19” wheels as that isn’t my road trim so no doubt some gains to be had
 

Evotion

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In the real world, guys, in the same conditions at these drag events, how does the RS3, modified or not, do compared to the Porsches, Ferraris and mad Japanese cars that turn up?
Is the RS3 given massive respect?
 

terminator x

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A lot of the other runners were interested in the RS3 especially when they heard it was standard, both from a speed and noise perspective :butterfly: one of the guys in a modded Mk1 Golf Gti (who was pretty rapid tbf) said it sounded "insane"!

TX.
 
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