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Audi A3 Driver door soft close (auto close/auto open) does not work

DjDvr Jun 9, 2020

  1. DjDvr

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    Hello,

    Looking for any other idea as I am out of any possibilities.

    2004 A3 8P 2 door.

    8p0 959 801 J Driver door controller
    8p0 959 802 G Passenger door controller

    2 different to enable mirror folding with remote. All worked fine until 2 weeks ago when I wanted to mount a new steering wheel.

    Disconnected - of the battery as per Audi Manual , did my check with airbag. Put everything back and connected battery. After this the window does not roll up with the driver door button.

    Already done:

    1. Learn ends , hold up and down , confirmed with VCDS ENDS Learned.
    2. Button sends command for auto open , I can see that in VCDS
    3. Changed Button same thing , changed Controller completely same thing.
    4. Left controller disconnected 12 h same thing ...

    Passenger window works form driver door button.
    Driver window goes up completely via auto close from remote , I still have the separate comfort module pre 2010 that has auto close.
    Mirrors fold with remote just fine and open with ignition so the controller is connected etc.

    No errors ...

    I am out of ideas :) , grateful for any new idea to try ...
     
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    Mirror folding with remote, assuming you added a modified setup as that option isn't available with stock modules & wiring.

    J modules has different wiring to G, G is preface lift & J is newer that supports led indicator on mirrors.

    So what's your setup exactly as something see odd with this.
     
  4. DjDvr

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    I have changed the wiring on the door to support the J controller so I can code the mirror fold in with remote :). It works like this for over 2 years now no issue :) as the driver controller sends the fold in command all worked fine until I removed the - this time. The batter was changed in this 2 yeas , so was the controller several times as I added anti dazzel mirrors as well, everything woks , window , lock mechanism all works except for the auto close ..... after removing the battery - terminal this time ...

    as I mentioned the ends are learned and the button sends the auto close command and I can see it in vcds being received by the controller it just starts and stops immediately ...
     
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    WhatsApp Image 2020-06-09 at 17.16.16.jpeg Here is a screenshot
     
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    I've never known any modules to support folding the mirror when you press your remote fob lock & unlock.

    It was only available to fold via the door dial knob.

    So something is very bizarre & lucky for yours to work with stock wiring & modules.

    Do you have a pic of your module so I can see the software version, any logs of the modules to see the coding as it was never an option on these cars.
     
  7. DjDvr

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    It is supported on all GEN3 module via the comfort function and VCP activation of the feature :). I have been coding these for a few years now :) it is even described here in the forum. All GEN3 for facelift controllers that support folding mirrors support the folding via remote but that is not my issue :) that works fine.

    I want the window to work to auto open and auto close (from driver door button) which does not work :) . As far as SW version as mentioned above all gen3 controllers from VAG support this except the passat CC ones form 2009 to 2010. Unfold works on igntion. This is a default setup for SEAT controllers.
     
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    It opens with ignition, something has been added to the car to make this work, there was never this feature on the 8P & any coding either wasn't available or didn't work, now I'm intrigued.

    Please share a full log.

    Doesn't have memory seats fitted does it?
     
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    G is gen 1, J is gen 2, P & Q are gen 3.
     
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    Never ever had that working & I've installed quite a bit lol.

    Can you send me a complete log if your car please, I'm intrigued.

    I've got an 8P with all the latest modules fitted for a car with 433 conv module, so mine should also work, very bizarre.
     
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    Nothing was added to the car :) other than the controller , rewire and coding via VCP as mentioned. Here is an autoscan from a few days ago. Belive me all MAX controller starting with J support mirror fold on remote and open on ignition after enabling it with VCP :).

    Again this is not the issue :) , the issue is still the window not working anymore for soft close via driver button :).

    Here is a video of it working for mirrors form the car ;)


    Coding will not help you here you need to modify 3 bytes in the controller.

    189 (0xBD), 206 (0xCE) und 223 (0xDF) enable BIT4 and this will enable folding with remote on all MAX3 controllers from 2007 onward except for passat cc as I mentioned :D

    Code:
    Friday,22,May,2020,16:40:15:23804
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
    VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A051357   License Plate: SB23XUS
    Mileage: 292940km-182024mi   Repair Order:
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 76 7D
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A051357   Mileage: 292940km-182024miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 016 J    HW: 028 101 138 3
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  5347
       Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT06F
       Coding: 0000071
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: AA187BE905A355D6F5-80FE
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 D
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102
       Coding: 0053894
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: B326668DD269141E46-80E6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
       Part No SW: 8U0 820 043 J    HW: 8U0 820 043 J
       Component: E87  Klimavoll      0220
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 8U0820043J
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: B83C51A1CB0FF74673-80EC
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01855 - Temperature Sensor for Heated Seat; Left Front (G344)
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 132
                        Mileage: 291656 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.02.10
                        Time: 20:03:56
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 23.5°C
                        Voltage: 12.60 V
                        Current: 0.000 A
                        (no units): 3.0
                        Temperature: -50.0°C
                        Temperature: 65.0°C
    
    01856 - Temperature Sensor for Heated Seat; Front Right (G345)
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 132
                        Mileage: 291656 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.02.10
                        Time: 20:03:56
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 23.5°C
                        Voltage: 12.60 V
                        Current: 0.000 A
                        (no units): 0.0
                        Temperature: -50.0°C
                        Temperature: -99.0°C
    
    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519)
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 132
                        Mileage: 291656 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.02.10
                        Time: 20:03:56
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 P    HW: 8P0 907 279 P
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H63 2904
       Revision: 00H63000    Serial number: 00000004681726
       Coding: AD8857208294109E00002800000000000009FF1F0001020E008000000000
       Shop #: WSC 16070 123 104857
       VCID: CAD81B69A5E375D615-809E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119   Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0130
       Coding: 16711696
       Shop #: WSC 16070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 F    HW: 8P0 959 655 F
       Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H01 0130
       Coding: 0010602
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: C5C228558CFD9AAEF8-8090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 G    HW: 8P0 953 549 G
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul H36 0070
       Coding: 0000042
       Shop #: WSC 73571 136 85310
       VCID: C2C833499DD3AD96DD-8096
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080
       Revision: D05         Serial number: 2246CD05000370
       Coding: 0004003
       Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
       VCID: B5225895DC1D0A2E68-80E0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 B    HW: 1K0 907 951
       Component: Gateway         H08 0090
       Revision: 08          Serial number: 240010371891D2
       Coding: 3D0F0F42070100
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: A6008FD911BB71B6D1-80F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080
       Revision: D05         Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT06F
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: B5225895DC1D0A2E68-80E0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX3.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 J    HW: 8P0 959 801 J
       Component: Tuer-SG         H03 0060
       Coding: 0004208
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: C2C833499DD3AD96DD-8096
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-143-GEN1.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 143 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.6       0402
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: B326668DD269141E46-80E6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 959 433 B
       Component:    KSG          H02 0030
       Coding: 58A000583F008505488A016000
       Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345
       VCID: BB364EADFA39DC5E9E-80EE
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted    
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382
       Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH23 0100
       Revision: 00001       Serial number: 10000001038019
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: F0ACA981E3FF6F067B-80A4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX2.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 959 802 G
       Component: Tuer-SG         020 0100
       Coding: 0000368
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: C0CC394193DFBF86CB-8094
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 AB    HW: 8P0 035 186 AB
       Component: R Concert2+     H05 0293
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3L2337145
       Coding: 0120211
       Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
       VCID: F2A8A389EDF35D168D-80A6
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 203
                        Mileage: 292943 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.05.22
                        Time: 12:17:36
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 919 283     HW: 8P0 919 283
       Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0020
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: F8BC91A18B8F3746B3-80AC
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 C    HW: 1K0 963 235 C
       Component: PTC-Element         0404
       Revision: 00600000    Serial number:              
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: AB167EED0A594CDE0E-80FE
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
                014 - Defective
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:27, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.2V)-----------
     
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  13. NHN

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    So you're actually modifying the base code for the module itself, which enables the byte to be ticked for coding, it's not solely a vcds coding option I'm assuming you mean?

    I'm about to jump on a train I'll read through this later, but in meantime thanks for the data, if I can see anything I can help I'll certainly message.
     
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    Ok I see, vcp is editing the binary, hex code directly to enable the feature, but it's not a visible coding change so to speak, it's back office one assumes.

    When I get more time I'll grab vcp & have a play.
     
  15. DjDvr

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    Correct , not a coding thing directly enabling the byte, VCP or directly on the EEPROM. PM me if you need more info happy to help.

    Would be happy to hear any idea on my issue as well as it's driving me nuts :D
     
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    Ironically for ages I've been meaning to find a tool to mess with EPROM coding, I'll PM you about it when I have a moment if that's ok.

    Many thanks.

    I'll browse through this thread again this evening & see if can figure out what's going on your end.

    Did you test the drivers window switch just after turning of the ignition, you remember when it has that time period it still works with ignition off, just seeing if it works then as that the same state as when locking, to a degree anyway, just when keys removed everything stops so to speak.
     
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    PM me anytime If I am here I will answer. VCP is the tool to read the EEPROM for some controllers not all support it.

    hmmm :) , did not thing of that , will go out an test good ideea :D. Before taking ignition it does still work but I think it disables comfort function but will give it a try.
     
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    From my understanding it's the internal window switch that isn't working, sorry if I've misunderstood, got a terrible sinus headache, travelling on a train with loads of luggage
     
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    well no :| , I changed the whole switch with a different one and VCDS shows the auto close function being started but it ends immediately .... as if you click stop ....

    The same thing with both switches ....
     
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    What I meant to say, when you press the drivers window switch the window doesnt work, not that the switch itself is faulty.
     
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    Just a thought without being an expert.
    Did you try to disconnect the battery again, and do the end learning from scratch?
    Best regards
     
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    Yep , 3 times already :) , 2 times only the controller , 1 time the battery completely
     
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    The switch works. The windows goes up and down only in the manual way so I have to keep pressing up or down.
    Did not get to test again before pulling key as I had some other things to finish but will give it another shot today.
     
  24. ch1z64

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    Forgive if i am misunderstanding this .
    Are you saying you cant get the Drivers window switch to get ur windows to auto close when you pull the window switch up and push switch down .
     
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    Correct. The window can go down and up "manual" but it will not auto open and close. But it will auto close with the remote ....
    VCDS shows the auto close command is sent to the controller and it starts the process for 1 fraction of a second and stops immediately.
     
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    The reason why i asked is i have the autofolding on key fob too but dound when i tried another reprogrammed module ( same model ) on vcds it closed but when i tried it with fob it woukd do it and wondered if it was because the car noticed that it was a different module .have you tried to reset your windows plus your coding is well different from mine in ur drivers module . Mine i do have highline P in my 8P
     
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    Pulled controller , installed a new one , tried a new switch .... I am lost.
    Will remove battery again and remove passenger controller and try to reset it with only the driver controller installed and see if works ...
     
  28. ch1z64

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    Why do you keep removing battery . Lets roll back it worked for 2yrs , and you changed something , ( so maybe problem lies with what you have changed and not what is programmed ?
     
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    Those are all the things that I have already tried.

    To make it short.

    2 weeks ago I bought a new steering wheel :) , wanted to test it , disconnect - on the battery , tested airbag, it worked , put the original airbag back on and put battery - terminal back on. (Steering wheel still needs some mods, just tested the airbag to test it's ok).
    Starting from then the soft close function stopped working on the driver side window from the button.

    Nothing was changed in coding or parts on the car :) it just stopped working after the battery was disconnected to test the airbag.

    I have vcds scans going back to the moment I installed the controller :) nothing changed.
     
  30. ch1z64

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    Have to say i am baffled by that too
     

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